Life and society used to be so good for us. What the hell happened?

alter_furz · 2024-12-04T22:23:49+00:00

good for us?

when was that?

historically speaking, you must be reminiscing over the era called "never", or some whitewashed refined imagination about idealized past.

_NRNA_ · 2024-12-04T23:37:15+00:00

Life has never been “good” for most men, historically speaking. However, there were exclusively male spaces, and the general idea that the work you put in correlated to a (relatively) better life.

There are multiple factors as to why this isnt the case anymore and it started far before 2020.

Ok-Consideration8724 · 2024-12-04T22:35:14+00:00

There are a bunch of cascading effects that led us here. It’s hard to narrow down which one started it. I’d say social media has been the vehicle of pre-existing issues being spread easier than ever before. But it’s not the main one.

HyakuBikki · 2024-12-04T23:38:44+00:00

Why does everyone think life before 2020 was paradise for men? Did we all suddenly forget #MeToo was pre 2020? This shit been going on for decades.

Baby_Arrow · 2024-12-04T23:20:50+00:00

Religion used to be the binding of our culture. As religion decreased with the rise of the internet we replaced our sense of belonging and community with the comfortable distractions that exist online.

I’m not even religious and I find my own community and sense of purpose on my men’s amateur rugby team. It’s out there for you boys, just gotta go find it.

Efficient_Aspect_638 · 2024-12-04T22:25:03+00:00

We took our eye off the ball. Or we love women too much.

MozartFan5 · 2024-12-04T23:22:41+00:00

What are you talking about? Life has been difficult for the vast majority of men throughout world history.

Local-Willingness784 · 2024-12-05T01:43:17+00:00

one would think that society was good for men in the past, but regardless of what I have to say, if your standard for the "good old days" were the 50s then I have nothing to discuss here.

lukuh123 · 2024-12-05T02:18:40+00:00

I agree with you I feel like everyone kinda just subconsciously lost it after covid and now we are not the same to each other anymore

9chars · 2024-12-04T23:04:20+00:00

ITS CALLED COLLAPSE and you're living it :)

Frird2008 · 2024-12-05T01:22:20+00:00

Part of me is secretly wishing that the car that hit me in February 2020 was going 4X its speed...

Vegetable_Ad1732 · 2024-12-05T04:14:01+00:00

Dramatic wealth inequality caused the Establishment, the rich, to fear the poor. Fearing violent revolution. So, they pretended to care, going hard Left, veering on Socialism, which drew resistance. Thus, the Culture War. What's really astounding here is the power of the Establishment. Their divide and conquer bit, playing the genders and races against each other, is tearing society apart. I just wish people could see through the manipulation.

Cultural_Ad_7107 · 2024-12-04T23:29:31+00:00

Honestly, I gave it some thought, and things were never really too good for us. Sometimes, in this day and age, I think to myself and wonder, is it worth living?

Mobile_Lumpy · 2024-12-04T22:41:46+00:00

Cancer... Cancer happened.

smeltaway · 2024-12-04T23:46:26+00:00

There are a few things that I think happened:

A heavy emphasis on education (and our lack of it) has seriously hurt us economically
Increases in the cost of living make life harder for everyone
We are the first society I know of outside of Tahiti that tries for identical roles for men and women (and Tahiti didn't try that hard for it). Almost every society has complimentary roles. The reason is because when times get hard, humans fight with the groups they compete with for stuff. Consequently, in today's world, men and women are competing and fighting as a result.

HollowHusk1 · 2024-12-05T06:07:28+00:00

Back in the 40’s-50’s men and women were equal, had different burdens and responsibilities that they were both expected to fulfill. Now women are privileged. They get the privileges of both gender roles without any responsibility what so ever. Just look at how favored women are in employment opportunities, education, dating, social life etc. Basically most women get whatever they want, whenever they want which has led to a lot of them becoming spoiled brats who see men as just another tool to get what they want. Men have to maintain their traditional roles or else they’re shunned, men don’t get any special opportunities

Floridian_Lost · 2024-12-05T00:56:26+00:00

I think men have changed some. Testosterone levels have dropped in the past 20 years. A lot of young men are lazier and careless.

the_1st_inductionist · 2024-12-05T00:00:02+00:00

One, it’s not really clear how much better life or society was.

Two, the basic issue is that man, nor individuals in general, is not for himself enough. He doesn’t regard himself as an end in himself, but a means to the ends of others (god, the needy, whatever). He doesn’t stand up for what’s factually necessary for his life/happiness as his highest moral purpose. He doesn’t stand up for his unalienable right to life, liberty, property and the pursuit of happiness.

Vijpaaj · 2024-12-05T01:18:29+00:00

Its still good. The loudest aren't the majority.

No_Leather3994 · 2024-12-05T02:49:30+00:00

I agree, pre-2020 was so good now its like everyone went crazy from the lockdowns and we are feeling the impacts of it.

Because think about it people were stuck in their homes on their devices where only the really extreme takes get popular so its just people getting exposed to such extreme views online whilst being cut off from the outside world. Feminists got even deeper in their manhate because on their fyp/home pages they were getting constant extreme feminist posts whilst having no outside connection to go "oh wait, the men around me aren't like this" eventually they got so brainwashed that they belive it now.

Title	Life and society used to be so good for us. What the hell happened?
Author	Winter-Gur-9762
Upvotes	30
Comments	35
Date	December 4, 2024 10:18 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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