"Male-Dominated"

NonbinaryYolo · 2024-12-22T13:45:41+00:00

I generally just throw it back at them, and use it as an opportunity to promote our statistics. Get the word out.

Health, education, administration, sociology, psychology, and social work are ALL 75%+ female dominated.

And yeah, men might dominate industrial jobs, but guess what? Men also die 10 times more often on the job than women, and recieve a fraction of the social support. Why should men be expected to give up the few places they have to have a safe job like STEM?

and where are men expected to go? Like what happens to the dude that's been working STEM for 20 years? Is he going to get special grants, and training to help him transition to nursing or something? Fuck no.

When people are only focused on one gender, it's not equality.

Pickled_Onion5 · 2024-12-22T08:35:25+00:00

I agree that "male dominated" is a negative term. In my workplace, within a corporate bank, 8/11 members of senior management are women and I wouldn't describe this as "female dominated". This is because I don't think it's permanently fixed to be only women in these positions.

ZealousidealCrazy393 · 2024-12-22T14:40:12+00:00

Not everyone I've heard use that term has done it in a way that implies it's a bad thing, but it often is portrayed as a bad thing due to the fact that society centers the feminist point of view in everything.

Male dominated = a territory captured by oppressive men who are keeping women out.

Female dominated = a territory liberated by our glorious forces of fighting feminists.

Our gynocentrist society has conditioned us to see groups of men as being inherently exclusive of women because we always assume the worst about men and the best about women. That is, women can do anything men can do and men will do anything to stop them. To suggest any other explanation for why an industry might be predominately male is taken as pure misogyny.

flaumo · 2024-12-22T13:41:07+00:00

Just to add, there was a similar thread a few month ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1envl4r/industries_dominated_by_women_other_industries/

HerrSirCupcake · 2024-12-22T12:23:34+00:00

i agree with you when it's used to describe work. The only example i know, where male dominated is a good description, would be chess. Chess is a male dominated sport that has a lot of prejudice against women probably mostly in smaller clubs, that make it harder for women/girls to enter and get to the top level, where there's less prejudice.

many people have the idea, that women are worse at chess and when you look at the top level players it's easy to make this connection, because the best men are better than the best women, but it's actually all statistics. More men in chess means there's a higher chance that some of these men will be top players. less women entering also means less top women and the women at the top won't be as good as the top men. If there were the same number of women and men in chess, their levels would be comparable.

the general public also has no right to say women are bad at chess, because the top women would absolutely smoke all of the men saying that stuff.

Glum_Rent_9765 · 2024-12-22T22:21:57+00:00

These sorts of conversations get tiring pretty quickly. The conversations are always steered towards higher class jobs. It's never about lower class jobs, because quite frankly, nobody wants to do them. Everyone wants to be higher class, nobody wants to be lower class. More of these forms of discrimination is going to put more women in higher class jobs. Now what? Whose is going to do the other jobs? Not men, because they don't want to do them either. They're not fixing anything. I would even say that they're directly breaking the economy as well. It doesn't matter how you view this, we're screwed in any way.

Baby_Arrow · 2024-12-22T20:15:52+00:00

They’ll focus on how bad it is that certain things are male dominated but ignore how teachers or therapists are female dominated. They expect boys to learn as girls do and expect boys to process emotions and prescribe solutions that usually only work for girls.

Then tell me I’m sexist for pointing it out.

maomaochair · 2024-12-22T18:45:52+00:00

To be honest, for me, Female-dominated job usually identical to safe, less workload, office job, less competition. As a male, worked in female dominated occupations were a very good memory. Got more leisure time, self regulated (without minitor). And salary is stable and decent.

I guess it is due to male is considered as disposable.

But if the same job positions were occupated by male, it become more heavy tasked, efficient (in negative sense)

No-Calligrapher · 2024-12-23T10:03:29+00:00

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the term "male-dominated" in itself. It is just a linguistic tool used to describe a demographic phenomenon.

This post reminds me a lot about comments from women who find the usage of the word "female" to be sexist or demeaning regardless of the context that it is being used in.

I could not disagree with OP more strongly and I find that this kind of mentality will only reduce people's capacity to communicate effectively.

Just because a term is sometimes used with a negative connotation does not make the term itself inherently negative.

vikingbear90 · 2024-12-23T14:43:19+00:00

Until it’s socially accepted and not viewed as weird for a teenage boy babysitting a non-related kid or two in the neighborhood i just kind of invalidate most arguments about “male dominated” stuff.

It was fine for me to tutor a kid or two, but offer to babysit and you get weird looks.

God forbid encouraging teenage boys and young men from developing or having a nurturing personality or trying to have some sort of positive impact on a little kid(s).

Material-Dark-6506 · 2024-12-22T22:07:32+00:00

Of course a club will be male dominated when males started the club. Once you kick out all the males they’ll just go start another club, and that one will be male dominated. The meme saying “my favorite position is CEO” misunderstands power, it should be “my favorite position is founder”.

sickofyallsbullshit · 2024-12-29T12:35:44+00:00

this is honestly fascinating. ie, how offended you are. there is nothing wrong with that, i don’t and will not police anyone’s emotions but i do hope you have an outlet.

Title	"Male-Dominated"
Author	DarkBehindTheStars
Upvotes	132
Comments	30
Date	December 21, 2024 7:27 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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