To Master Seducers

hunterpua · 2025-03-26T20:30:29+00:00

Since you're asking this question, odds are the only way you've behaved with her have been either aloof and sort of disinterested, or respectful and caring.

There's a middle part between the two attitudes that you skipped over.

You can't just suddenly switch to being nicer to her, she has to earn that privilege.

And its not misogyny nor is it pride. It's just reasonable to want to enjoy dating and hooking up as much as possible.

That's where Qualification comes in.

I'm not gonna break it down technically but I'll tell you this - Its helpful to genuinely be skeptical about someone and care at least 10x more about how much you're enjoying her presence, instead of just immediately trying to fuck or get involved with every girl that gives you a chance.

And then allow that attitude to let you challenge and screen girls. See if they like what you like, see if they have good outlooks and beliefs, see if she's a reasonable person or not, see if she's boring or not.

And don't think this is only for relationships. Finding out a woman's beliefs, whether she's reasonable or not, and whether she's vanilla or not will be very helpful for increasing the quality of your hookups too.

If anything, if she is a reasonable person, her consent will mean a lot more than the shaky, could-retract-next-month "consent" of someone less reasonable.

And only become significantly more respectful and caring after she's won you over to a significant extent. She will surely value that respect and care much more in that situation.

HomelessMilkman · 2025-03-26T22:24:57+00:00

The more you care, the more tense, uptight and therefore 'unfun' you are.

So conversely, to offer an engaging experience you have to be loose, relaxed and carefree to some extent.

Chicagoj1563 · 2025-03-26T20:23:39+00:00

Women want men who are on their path and purpose and unapologetically will go after what they want in life. That doesn’t mean being disrespectful to people, but they like guys who go after what they want and are uneffected by what people think.

Being a people pleaser is going out of your way to be nice to people. It can be seen as an act and fake. It suggests others are of higher value. And it’s a pattern a girl has seen a million times before. It’s what 90% of guys are like. And it’s why most guys are unattractive to women.

You can thank a feminized society for raising us this way. It makes us polite and easy to get along with. But not always attractive.

Be real, be respectful, be on your path and purpose. Go after what you want without apologizing or putting on an act. It’s about authenticity.

krakasha · 2025-03-26T20:31:53+00:00

You've got plenty of answers here which details the evolutionary theory.

Since that side is covered, I'll add something from the other side.

What you consider "extra respectful and caring" might not be what she considers it. If she is losing interest possibly either she doesn't consider it, or might find weird/odd that you shown such behaviour at a too early stage in the relationship.

An equivalent would be a guy hooking up with a girl and the next day she starts calling him 5x a day and he becomes put off and ghosts her after. She could say "why guys lose interest as soon as we show care and attention?". She just did it too much too early.

Keep in mind that we can only give very broad descriptions and interpretations, end of the day everyone is unique, and it's hard to give better answers without more details.

Different cultures will also play a significant role too, most of the answers you see here are for western culture.

bmcapers · 2025-03-26T19:08:31+00:00

Depends on how consistent and well rounded your communication is - if there’s no consistency, you’re coping.

FKaria · 2025-03-26T20:40:44+00:00

Being respectful and caring in general is not a turnoff. If you're respectful and caring towards everyone, and that's how you genuinely live your life, women will like that.

What is a turnoff is being extra respectful and extra caring only to them. That's a turnoff because the only reason you do it is to seek her approval, and approval seeking behavior is weak and communicates that you don't think you deserve her.

Pbake · 2025-03-26T22:10:00+00:00

You should be respectful and caring. But you also need to demonstrate that you’re happy with your life even if they’re not in it.

ratfooshi · 2025-03-27T01:00:33+00:00

No master, yet a forever student.

This dynamic is the very dance of seduction.

Push, and pull.

Too much niceties can come off as insecure. Women want a modest hardihood. A devilish gentleman.

Every now and then, speak without much thought. Double down on your boldness. This is exciting to be around.

Most importantly, give them space to miss you.

Thierr · 2025-03-27T15:46:59+00:00

They only do when they sense it's coming from an insecure or needy place. Or if you've been holding up some fake front all the time.

Be your authentic self and attract who actually fits with you

LongDongJohnson1 · 2025-03-26T18:57:26+00:00

It can depend on the timing and the personality change when a guy starts to act caring etc. Usually when this happens it's because the woman hasn't reached that point of attachment yet. When you act like you're just living your life and that it doesnt really matter if she's involved, it can show her your individualism, solidarity, and emotional state of your social hierarchy. Women like that. It shows that you're happy with yourself and not dependent on others thoughts/opinions. It also shows if you're lonely. They can feel the loneliness and many see that as a red flag. They could ask themselves, "why is he acting attached already? Does he not have anything else going on in his life to distract him from me? Why not?" But instead of figuring out why you're acting like that, they ghost because they have PLENTY of other options and haven't gotten attached.

This of course can vary depending on the womans self awareness and ego. That usually goes hand in hand with women of a higher caliber.

Blitted_Master · 2025-03-26T19:59:10+00:00

Perceived value. Their hindbrain can’t help it.

Tiny-Plane-8209 · 2025-03-26T20:28:44+00:00

They don’t like it because you’re putting up a front & internally it shows you have no experience with women. Women are feminine in nature but cold & dark (ask me how I know) creatures.. yeah you heard that right. Look into the Lilith Archetype. They value chaos & emotion volatility to keep their interest in you. I’m not saying be a dick to them but I’m saying quit the Nice Guy act cause they see right through it. As a man you’re supposed to be unapologetic, masculine & fully immersed in YOUR world. They are attracted to men who don’t give a f*ck aka bad boys / toxic men.. Seducing a women requires emotional volatility . You have to use their nature against them, it sounds manipulative but women run this game on men all the time.

An important feat is to just be yourself & follow your purpose , this in turn will build confidence in you that will build that “idgaf” attitude. The funny thing about seduction is that it’s most powerful when it’s indirect & unintentional. When you’re being too caring & nice it shows intentional behavior, which makes the women think “hmm he wants something out of me”. People don’t like being manipulated directly but when it happens indirectly they fall in your own trap.

They only admire the care & love if it comes the man that THEY want. This happens after the emotional turmoil & physical satisfaction (sex). This is how they get attached to you & you can continue your game as such. Peace

WordWizardry1 · 2025-03-27T02:55:11+00:00

Okay so, after reading it all, I have reached the conclusion I have committed too much interest too early on. She is still interested in - like she doing playful flirting and all, but she seems elusive mow. She replies once a day and then disappears. Here’s the thing: She’s a ten, and I don’t want to fumble her. What do you think should be my next course of action?

Plastic_Friendship55 · 2025-03-28T05:09:17+00:00

Because you are not in sync with the vibes and don’t read her signals that tell you where she is. If she wants you to be romantic and you are respectful, it’s a turn off. If she wants you to be relaxed and chill and you are caring, you get it wrong.

She might not even think about it, but she can feel it.

And it’s exactly the same for us men.

BBC_for_the_World · 2025-03-28T15:10:17+00:00

Do a field report.

norwegiandoggo · 2025-03-26T19:28:44+00:00

Being kind, respecful, and caring will usually not cause a loss of interest.

But, based on how you do it, it can interfere with her perception of your social status. Social status is a key factor influencing attractiveness. If your kindness is done in a way that makes it seem like you're putting her on a pedestal, or that you're trying to "please her into liking you" - this implies that you believe her social status is higher than yours. Erego you have a low social status compared to her, and that can cause her to lose interest.

If you're kind, respectful, and caring in a way that doesn't lower your social status. Then it is unlikely to reduce attraction.

So ask yourself: What is your motivation for being kind and respectful with her? Your answer probably will reveal why she finds it unattractive.

No-Buy7459 · 2025-03-26T19:37:52+00:00

some girls are into toxicity. Ive had this a lot

DrinksAreOnTheHouse · 2025-03-26T21:31:41+00:00

What women are attracted to is a man who prioritizes his mission and purpose because subconsciously it signals he will be a good mate and provider. When he gets too caring on the woman and not his mission, subconsciously he is signaling he is not focused on keeping her safe, winning, being fed, or protected. That turns her off. It’s a basic instinct.

The way to express love is to give her your full attention, emotions, appreciation when you have slayed the dragons.

MineDesperate2920 · 2025-03-27T04:19:13+00:00

It signals beta male behaviour in her DNA is the easiest and most simple answer. And the opposite behaviour signals alpha male behaviour which her dna wants to mate with. Thats why she won’t like it.

Funny enough logically she thinks she wants nice guys and women likely do. But their DNA is hardwired the opposite

YinMaestro · 2025-03-26T21:11:20+00:00

Because girls like men who are bold and assertive with their words and actions. Most women are meek and dainty so they generally prefer a man who has grit, confidence and boldness.

Some younger women confuse this with douche/badboy behavior and end up with an abuser. Why do girls stay with men like that? Because they are naturally attracted to the the darker behaviors of such men.

Women generally like to be entertained. Danger sparks their curiousity as does a level of boldness and unpredictability.

Title	To Master Seducers
Author	WordWizardry1
Upvotes	36
Comments	32
Date	March 26, 2025 5:56 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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