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Today I discovered this madness

DVM11

April 10, 2025
250 upvotes
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Feather_Campaign

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Title Today I discovered this madness
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DVM11

Upvotes 250
Comments 44
Date April 10, 2025 11:01 AM UTC
(1 year ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1jvv4wz/today_i_discovered_this_madness/
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Woman who falsely acuses 10 men of raping her jailes

142 upvotes
March 12, 2026
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[–]Different-Product-91 102 points103 points104 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It pretty much sums up womens' opinion about men - they are only good enough to die for them. And it would be very naive to think it has changed since then. Some days ago, this article

https://archive.ph/x5dyg#selection-1983.312-1983.523

was published in a big German newspaper. It contains the sentence: "Im Krieg sterben Menschen. Damit die Nation fortbesteht, müssen diese Menschen primär Männer sein." ("People die in war. In order to make the nation survive, these peoole must primarily be men.")

[–]TheIndustrialCritic 47 points48 points49 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The funny thing is that articles like those are often posted by feminists themselves, yet they claim it’s “patriarchy” forcing men into war…

Birth rates are already low, so no, German ladies aren’t going to suddenly start creating babies if German men die.

[–]theoutbacklp 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link

this article completely ignores the fact that childbearing is voluntary (and supported), while conscription and war involve literal state violence. That’s a false equivalence. And let’s not pretend men just choose not to take parental leave when the system punishes them for doing so. But of course, none of that matters; just guilt-trip men into silence again.

[–]AfghanistanIsTaliban 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's heavily subsidized, fully voluntary until 12 weeks of pregnancy have passed, and even then birth rates are dropping.

Germany has a birth rate of 1.35 children per woman, and 20% of women do not have children at all. In comparison, between 6.6% and 7.5% of women of reproductive age are infertile, which gives us a rough estimate of 12.5% of women who are shirking this supposed duty (a duty used as a pretext for male-only conscription by this article)

Conscripts do not have the luxury to say "no" to their duties.

[–]Latter-Ad-689 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The only way their argument makes sense is if women were obliged to give up 6 months of their life providing childcare, and were obliged to bear and raise a child during wartime.

I remember one German government in particular made a big thing about women's duty to procreate, even they didn't go as far as mandating it.

[–]Different-Product-91 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Even then, giving birth and being forced to prepare for being sent, for the sake of something or someone, to die or to be mutilated, are two completely different matters and in no way comparable. What the feminist auhor of the article (of course, a female) claims is crystalized hatred of men. There is nothing whatsoever to compare the two situations!

[–]wtfbrurrur 76 points77 points78 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, pro-war feminists

[–]lonely_rat_xoxo 40 points41 points42 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

disgusting

[–]TheIndustrialCritic 36 points37 points38 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s easy to send someone else to war when it isn’t your or your group’s life on the line…

[–]ayylmao_ermahgerd 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"I'm gonna go die for this? The fuuu?"

[–]Sick-of-you-tbh 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And they say that first wave feminism wasn’t toxic like the modern wave of feminism…

[–]mrchristopher2 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you haven’t seen it, the movie The Four Feathers (2002) has a storyline that is based around this custom

[–]Latter-Ad-689 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ironic that it was Suffragettes shaming men for not fulfilling what they saw as a gendered responsibility, i.e. seeing no imperative to go to war themselves while demanding the same right to vote as the men they shamed.

[–]YetAnotherCommenter6 points 1 year ago [recovered] | Copy Link

seeing no imperative to go to war themselves while demanding the same right to vote as the men they shamed.

It's worse.

The men they shamed didn't have that right either.

The Suffragettes were upper-class property-owning women who were frustrated that, on marriage, they lost their right to vote due to the fact that under English law at the time, their property became their husband's (Coverture). Their grievance was NOT against selective suffrage, but the fact they were born into privilege and lost one of those privileges upon marriage.

They were NOT advocates of universal suffrage.

And the men they shamed were typically lower-class men who didn't own property and thus couldn't vote in the first place. That said, those men could EARN the vote by going to war for the state.

Point being, they were upper-class-female privilege-retention advocates. They were NOT advocates for universal suffrage or gender equality.

[–]Informal-Document-77 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah that stuff happened a lot, and still does.
Happened aruably for the most of human history.
Favourite thing from this article, is this story/documented encounter:

Almost the last feather I received was on a bus. I was sitting near the door when I became aware of two women on the other side talking at me, and I thought to myself, "Oh Lord, here we go again". One lent forward and produced a feather and said, "Here's a gift for a brave soldier." I took it and said, "Thank you very much—I wanted one of those." Then I took my pipe out of my pocket and put this feather down the stem and worked it in a way I've never worked a pipe cleaner before. When it was filthy I pulled it out and said, "You know, we didn't get these in the trenches", and handed it back to her. She instinctively put out her hand and took it, so there she was sitting with this filthy pipe cleaner in her hand and all the other people on the bus began to get indignant. Then she dropped it and got up to get out, but we were nowhere near a stopping place and the bus went on quite a long way while she got well and truly barracked by the rest of the people on the bus. I sat back and laughed like mad.

[–]kewlaz 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Four Feathers

[–]Complete-Junket-82095 points 1 year ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It's very easy for them to do this when they aren't the ones making the decision 

[–]pm_me_your_buttbulge 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Although the campaign was unpopular among the public, often causing mental suffering and suicides among men, it was seen as a success by the government, and the Pankhurst sisters as well as the Women's Social and Political Union received recognition from the government for their contributions.

Sums up feminism as a whole. Almost pure, unbridled, misandrists.

I mean we saw it in the UK. Women were suggested that they leave. Men were told to stay. We saw pictures of women at dance clubs.

And yet, even the more conservative of the liberals are 100% ok with that and view it as both good and moral. They won't say the quiet part out loud though - which is to say why they didn't require women to stay on. They know how it'll sound. And they're scared of that.

[–]Ventynine 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

disgusting…

[+]RevolutionaryRip2504 -27 points-26 points-25 points 1 year ago (7 children) | Copy Link

you do realize it was likely the government (aka men) who told them to do this right?

[–]DVM11[S] 21 points22 points23 points 1 year ago (9 children) | Copy Link

And they agreed to do it, your point?

[+]RevolutionaryRip2504 -24 points-23 points-22 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link

men had power over women.

[–]stinkydogusa 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Men with wives pulling the puppet strings.

[+]RevolutionaryRip2504 -16 points-15 points-14 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"On 30th August 1914, in the city of Folkestone he organised a group of thirty women to hand out white feathers to any men that were not in uniform. Fitzgerald believed that shaming the men into enlisting would be more effective using women and thus the group was founded, becoming known as the White Feather Brigade or the Order of the White Feather." -https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/White-Feather-Movement/

[–]DVM11[S] 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link

No matter how horrible what a woman has done is, a white knight will always come and want to blame a man.

[+]RevolutionaryRip2504 -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i’m not going to defend what they did because i think it’s wrong to shame men like that but you can’t ignore the fact that a man developed the idea

[–]Sick-of-you-tbh 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link

i think it’s wrong to shame men like that

No you don’t.

[+]RevolutionaryRip2504 -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yes i absolutely do. Fighting is war should be 100% voluntary that shit is traumatizing

[+]RevolutionaryRip2504 -7 points-6 points-5 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

both are responsible. the man who came up with the idea, and the woman

[–]DVM11[S] 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And yet many women refused to do it

[–]Sick-of-you-tbh 1 year ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Of course never taking any accountability, y’all are the same. This was a feminist’s campaign, created by women, your whataboutism doesn’t work here. “Men told them to do this” so I guess women are just patriarchal sheep who commit horrible things because men told them to huh?

[+]RevolutionaryRip2504 -8 points-7 points-6 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you can't ignore the fact that a man came up with the idea. obviously the women are still at fault. its like hitlers soldiers listening to him. all are accountable.

[+]Prestigious_Brush842 -64 points-63 points-62 points 1 year ago (12 children) | Copy Link

That was quite an absurd read I'd love to know if there were any articles/pictures/videos of it happening

Women have been forced into war plenty of times in history, maybe even more so than men sooo.....

[–]TheIndustrialCritic 36 points37 points38 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Idk if second paragraph is sarcasm, I can’t even tell…

[+]Prestigious_Brush842 -54 points-53 points-52 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Let me mansplain for you

👏A👏sentence👏is👏not👏a👏paragraph👏

[–]TheIndustrialCritic 22 points23 points24 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hmm yep, but you separated them by a big space 🤔

[–]fishermans-frienemy 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let the Cambridge dictionary explain some reality to you: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/paragraph

"👏 consisting 👏 of 👏 at 👏 least 👏 one 👏 sentence 👏 and 👏 beginning 👏 on 👏 a 👏 new 👏 line 👏".

[–]jjj2576 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your linguistic insecurity matches your passive voice.

[–]SpicyTigerPrawn 29 points30 points31 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Women have been forced into war plenty of times in history, maybe even more so than men sooo.....

You need pictures, articles, and videos to believe an uncontested story that women mocked men for failing to fight but provide no evidence to support a counterclaim that it's men hiding behind a front line of conscripted women?

[+]Prestigious_Brush842 -30 points-29 points-28 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Do you have proof of this?

[–]SpicyTigerPrawn 25 points26 points27 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The women in my own family mock and shame men who found a way to avoid fighting in Ukraine today. My social media feeds are full of women blaming men for all of the worlds problems and shaming them for not giving their lives to ensure every woman is protected from harm at all times no matter the consequences to him. There is nothing the slightest bit absurd or surprising that women proudly and openly mocked and shamed men for not defending their honor in the Gatling gunned and mustard gassed lines of WW1.

[+]Prestigious_Brush842 -12 points-11 points-10 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's all in your head buddy 👍

[–]fishermans-frienemy 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, it's called "real life", and it runs completely counter to your crazy imagination.

[–]AfghanistanIsTaliban 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this commenter is a troll btw

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