Is there a non-redpill alternative to Robert Glover's "No More Mr. Nice Guy"?

Wandering_Oblivious · 2025-07-06T23:36:28+00:00

I'd say look into therapy, and possibly start to work with a therapist to identify if you're what people might call "codependent". Then work on that if that's the case. I think a lot of the "Nice Guy" schtick is actually just codependency by another name. Pia Mellody is one author to look into.

zonadedesconforto · 2025-07-07T00:23:40+00:00

You can read some books on “people pleasing”, I guess. Since “nice guys” is most likely a subset of people pleasers.

PNW_Uncle_Iroh · 2025-07-07T01:45:41+00:00

No more Mr nice guy is basically just a book on codependency for men. There are some good takeaways but a lot of noise. Most books about codependency are written for women so any of those would be good for you. Also checkout CODA groups and literature.

DrZekker · 2025-07-07T22:02:27+00:00

Maybe find feminist authors instead of generic self help? Whether men or not. Bell Hooks "The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity, and Love" is a classic

OkAdagio4389 · 2025-07-07T21:56:20+00:00

So glad you bring this up! I also felt the book was highly suspect.

Books, like someone said, largely on codependency might help. Being religious, I can give you some as the list is long. Others I have found revolve around anxiety, particularly social anxiety and imposter syndrome. The key is get rid of what people think of you as that creates anxious thoughts and anxious thoughts come through subtle body language. I cannot recommend this book highly enough: The Charisma Myth by Olivia Fox Cabane. Second place would go to Models by Mark Manson. Here is also a review and devastating critique of No More Mr. Nice Guy by Richard Carrier and gives some of his picks on different books. https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/18508

Fun-Grocery-3643 · 2025-07-11T18:35:24+00:00

I love this question. I have been leading workshops and teaching men to find their sense of worthiness without external validation (for example, from your woman's approval) for 18 years.

As advice for men goes, I don't find Glover relatively misogynistic. There is some truth to the idea that changing sex roles has created some confusion for men (and women) and a vacuum of good alternatives. I think we can allow that without it saying anything negative about women.

I agree with most of the recommendations already here, as well as Brene Brown's "Rising Strong," and I quite like Wayne Levine's book, "Hold Onto Your NUTS," as a short, easy to understand and apply set of ideas for creating and keeping boundaries.

It's frankly tragic that so many men believe that killing off their "nice guy syndrome" is somehow equated to not being nice, generous, or kind.

It is poor boundaries and a lack of internal worthiness that leads men to use "nice" transactionally for approval, which, of course, is unattractive to women and eroding to self esteem for the man.

Fixing these things allows a man to enjoy being as generous and kind as he wants to be (which is of course enjoyable and nourishing in any relationship) while maintaining sexual chemistry, polarity, and play.

The term "Sexual Polarity," by the way, was coined in the first major feminist treatise, Margaret Fuller's "Woman of the Nineteenth Century."

And naturally, I think the best resources on the topic available are the ones that I offer on HowToManTV... or free on my YT channel of the same name ;)

glenn_ganges · 2025-07-07T00:43:51+00:00

Not Nice by Aziz Garispura. It also taps on other stuff like meditation that Glover does not.

I would also highly recommend The Courage To Be Disliked. I have the audiobook and have listened to it probably ten times.

creamerfam5 · 2025-07-08T01:09:36+00:00

Terry Real writes good stuff.

Wrong-Trust-4603 · 2025-07-09T16:11:42+00:00

Courage to Be Disliked

navattack76 · 2026-02-11T21:07:39+00:00

It is not anti feminism nor red pill. You should look into who he is and his intentions. What I’m reading here is your own narrative that could use some therapy around your relationship with your mother figures. I do not think you are ready for a book like this until you heal those aspects and realize - we, as men, are here to show up as listeners and protectors for the woman we care for (complete opposite of red pill and the manosphere BS that is haunting our algorithms.

xvszero · 2025-07-07T00:01:48+00:00

Just ask me for advice, my advice is awesome.

Title	Is there a non-redpill alternative to Robert Glover's "No More Mr. Nice Guy"?
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Date	July 6, 2025 11:32 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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