Cartoon idea

Peter_Principle_ · 2013-01-17T14:50:22+00:00

I like it, but it is far too subtle, it has zero punch. Lots of people are going to read this and come away with the idea that women do in fact make up the majority of workplace deaths.

You need a panel at the end where your character says something like "Btw, that thing where I said most deaths at work are women? I lied. Really, it's men. <footnote this claim with a source> Do you still care? Or was it only worth giving a shit when women were the ones harmed? Don't be a sexist bigot, support mens rights!" except not worded like crap.

SuperUppercut · 2013-01-17T14:18:38+00:00

I REALLY like where you're going with this but I'd make the following suggestion:

Delete the second two paragraphs. Tell people that 95% of workplace deaths are women. Make it look like a feminist factoid and let it spread. If you got just one to go viral the after effect when the truth gets discovered will be awesome.

2013-01-17T15:17:28+00:00

I think the sarcasm would be lost on most viewers of this cartoon.

mdoddr · 2013-01-17T15:28:45+00:00

he looks like he has two eyes that have two pupils each.

Collective82 · 2013-01-17T15:33:06+00:00

his nose scares me

2013-01-17T21:16:46+00:00

Swapping genders doesn't work in arguments against feminists. That tack is too reductive and logic-based. Feminists take things from a more holistic and subjective perspective. To them men dying at work doesn't matter because such-and-such percent of CEOs and world leaders are men.

I agree with the logic but on some levels it is nonsensical to just swap genders, while completely ignoring the broader historical, cultural context of what men's and women's lives are like as a whole.

It is also a bad assumption that work fatalities are tied to pay. The men dying at work are usually the ones at the bottom of the food-chain socially. If a man and woman have different pay at some white-collar office jobs... what do lumberjacks falling into woodchippers and having trees fall on them have to do with it?

And the comic seems to suggest that the gender pay gap is real, which is debatable, and that it is okay to pay women less because women don't do as much hard work? Do you really expect that kind of argument to sway many people?

A more effective comic would be just a picture of some dead soldiers or coal miners or with the caption "It was my privilege", smalltext "95% of workplace fatalities are men".

The way it is now is can be dismissed as textbook "mansplaining." I mean the whole graphical setup is a white man in a suit telling it how it is (!). The whole tone is just preaching to choir, and to anyone else you just come across kind of douchey.

The whole thing is utterly tone deaf. If you want sympathy for men you have to hit the audience right in the feels. Men are just not statistics. They have blood and guts and feelings, show the world that. This is where anecdotes are better than statistics...

seriesoftubesguy · 2013-01-17T18:11:34+00:00

The problem is the average person reading that would believe what it says, the same way people buy into feminist statistics.

7wap · 2013-01-17T20:18:47+00:00

Didn't work. 'Equal pay for equal work' implies that they're doing the same job. Clearly women aren't doing these dangerous jobs, so there's no equal pay issue.

RedHawk · 2013-01-17T12:28:29+00:00

I am developing an MRA comic series. I have two characters, Gorky (the male) and Ms. Andrea (female not shown). Each comic will discuss a specific issue. Next up will be circumcision and male privilege.

[edit] still working out the best settings. Had a few issues with this, mainly the size of the original format made most things impossibly slow.

Mikeychan · 2013-01-17T12:46:45+00:00

sounds fairly interesting this. The drawing style is nice

vaselinepete · 2013-01-17T15:26:45+00:00

Nice work!

I think the last paragraph needs a rethink. The equal pay thing is actually still a problem in some industries so weakens the argument.

MaunaLoona · 2013-01-17T16:00:05+00:00

So this is what "PigMan" looks like.

Title	Cartoon idea
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	57
Comments	30
Date	January 17, 2013 12:25 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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