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[–]iteal 12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Willpower Instinct, Kelly McGonigal - aka How to get things done
Thinking, Fast and Slow, Daniel Kahneman - aka How things work
Way of The Peaceful Warrior, Dan Millman - aka Why do things
How to Win Friends and Influence People, Dale Carnegie - aka How to be good
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Which would you recommend first?
[–]iteal 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Depending on your situation right now. If you haven't read non-fiction until now it's good to start with Way of The Peaceful Warrior because it is more a story than a non-fiction book, but you can learn really much about life in general and the right mindset. Thinking, Fast and Slow is really a tough book to read, but probably the best book i have read so far, so read that later.
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I've already read The Rational Male and half of The Book of Pool. I'll look into it
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No More Mr. Nice Guy
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Games people Play
It lifted the veil of human interaction and clearly demonstrated how relationships are truly transactional in nature. This has helped me more in my professional and personal life than anything else including my post secondary education.
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It's a neat lens to view the world with.
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The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar
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7 Habits of Highly Effective People
How to Win Friends & Influence People
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The Genealogy of Morals -Friederick Nietzsche
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The Charisma Myth
Mindfulness in Plain English
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1984 was the first book that came to my mind when I saw this post as well.
[–]SW9876 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
People always mention 1984, but don't forget it's brother, Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.
[–]johnny_red_hawk 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Great question OP. I would add to this comment Aldous Huxley's Brave New World. Comparing Brave New World and 1984 grants insight into the way governments (or groups) control the masses. Opposite methods same results.
Never heard of green book, mind sharing what it's about and why you like it?
[–]RemyPrice 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
The Fountainhead - Ayn Rand
[–]yumyumgivemesome 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I've heard others list Atlas Shrugged as well. I'm about 1/3 through it so I hope to report back in a few years when I finally finish it.
[–]RemyPrice 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Both are amazing.
Both are incredibly dense, so I hear you about the length of time. Worth the effort, though.
According to a source I read long ago, it took her 3 years to write Galt's speech in AS.
[–]eccentricrealist 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wasn't it Ancona?
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It's quite possibly D'Anconia's money speech. It's been a while.
[–]itaewonfreedom3 points 10 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
One of my all-time favorites as well. I appreciate the sexual dynamics in that book.
[–]RemyPrice 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Howard Roark laughed.
If you want to learn IDGAF, he's the man.
[–]itaewonfreedom 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
My favorite line is when that Toohey weasel asks what Rourke thinks of him. " But I don't think of you." Burrrn
[–]RemyPrice 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Haha, you're right! It's such a good burn.
I've been waiting for an opportunity to use that at least once in my life!
[–]Johnny10toes 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mine was from Mad Men but he and aren't friends anymore.
"You miss me this week?"
I didn't think of you at all.
[–]nodoxsavefreespeech1 points 10 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
I always tell people to read For The New Intellectual to get a more terse version of her philosophy. I've read most of her books and holy fuck-snacks that bitch is long-winded.
Worth it though.
[–]JimRohnIsMyDad 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
happiness advantage - shawn achor - check out his ted talk for an insight
grain brain - dr david permultter
primal blueprint - mark sisson
richest man in babylon - finances
the charisma myth -
think and grow rich - napoleon hill
psycho cybernetics - brilliant book abvout self image and it affect on you
[–]KneeDeep185 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie
My biggest take-aways from that book were so simple yet profoundly changed my life: a) Always smile when you meet someone, and smile when you greet people. It's incredible what this can do for you and your personal and business relationships. It also made me aware of other people who don't smile when they see you, even if unintentionally, and how that affects the way you perceive them.
b) Never talk shit about someone, even if they're your worst god damned enemy. For a number of reasons, but the shit talking almost always comes back to you and will only exacerbate the animosity, and talking bad about someone usually makes you look worse is the eyes of the person to whom you're speaking and will secretly make them second guess your loyalty to them. At the very least, remain neutral to your enemies and praise your friends. It just makes you look good.
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The guys I work with that recommend this book do not seem genuine while having conversations. They seem like they are having to really try and seem interested. It makes me second guess everything they say cause I think they are just trying to butter everyone up. It's good to be a good person but not to the point of being disingenuous. But whatever, it probably works on most people and especially in the work place. Also, I think it's alright to talk shit about someone as long as you are saying it to their face.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Saying it to their face isn't talking shit IMHO. It's having a conversation and resolving your conflict. Talking shit about someone is when you are non-confrontational and going on about that person behind their back. Never do that. Either have a face to face with the person, or drop the subject altogether. Passive-aggressive behavior will pretty much always be the worst course of action.
[–]KneeDeep185 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I definitely agree that if you follow the book's teachings without a solid masculine/RP approach, you'll come off as being soft at the least, disingenuous at the worst. When I read the book and internalized some of the message, I was about 18 y/o and was a bit of a goober, socially. I didn't know how to act around people, and I didn't understand why people didn't respond positively to me. Smiling, being positive, not talking shit are pretty basic tenants to follow in social situations and I just didn't understand their importance at the time.
And as for talking shit to someone's face... Why? Unless you want to start a fight, why do it at all? It isn't helping anyone, it isn't constructive... Do you mean in a work setting? Past college there are very, very few instances where you need to burn the building down and talk shit to someone. Unless it's in a joking matter (or thinly veiled joking), but that's a whole other matter.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not really talking shit out of nowhere. More like Swelfie was saying about resolving conflict face-to-face rather than venting to others behind their back. More often than not it comes off as ribbing yeah.
[–]KneeDeep185 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok yeah, that definitely makes sense. 'Resolving conflict' is different than talking shit, but we all know that, right?
[–]randarrow 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Book is over simplified. Lays out a good base layer in western human behavior, but doesn't prepare for multiple situations or levels of dealing with people. Over simplified for simple people. Is more of a 'how to be a beta' book. Sometimes you gotta be the beta, but not all or even most of the time.
EG: "Always smile" thing. This doesn't apply in many situations, including when dealing with many non-westerners. Also, waiters/service people are taught to either always smile. But, in nicer/more sophisticated places they are taught to match the expression of the customer they are dealing with. If they are stoic, be stoic. If they are frowning, frown. If they are being expressionless, be expressionless.
Book recommends bringing little gifts to help build rapport. Typically beta-bux behavior.
Book recommends listening to people to help build rapport, doesn't help with people who have nothing to offer unless you manage them.
Yes, the book is good in many contexts. But by no means most.
My takeaway could be summed to one simple sentence: always caress other people's ego; make them feel important.
All the rules in this book, I've noticed, stem from this underlying philosophy. It has greatly improved my pleasure when interacting with people (whereas before I was a bit of a misanthrope and didn't enjoy wasting time on people)
[–]Str8_Pillin 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fight Club - Chuck Palahniuk
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
Meditations by Marcus Aeurelius.
48 Laws of Power
I need more nonfiction that's not purely selfhelp or business. Been dabbling in the philosophies but losing interest (stoicism mostly)
Any recommendations? TRP usually recommends the self help types (Models, No More Mr Nice Guy, etc.). I believe I'm beyond that sort of book. Can't wait for Greene's next installment. Maybe I'll check out more Steven Pinker, perhaps the Blank Slate.
Edit: Read art of the deal. Its not an impactful book but its a great read and nows the best time to crack it. Also follows a narrative, to my surprise. Perhaps I should look more into memoirs of people I respect. (Recommendations accepted).
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Yea I've read them all but seduction
[–]WishfulTraveler 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'd honestly suggest fantasy/sci-fi.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Any specific suggestions?
I'm more down for sci-fi though (Iain banks is on my list)
[–]WishfulTraveler 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Dresden Files and The Legacy of Heorot
Personal mba is fantastic even just for life skills.
Damn bro, same boat here. Read some self help and philosophy books but I think I've reached a point of diminishing returns. I imagine you've read most of greenes books already so I wouldn't recommend that.
What I decided to do instead was actually read books that align with my mission (medical, neuroscience). There's a wealth of information there!
Im working through my reading list (finished 10 out of 30 books since this year), would love if you had any suggestions (TRP related or otherwise)
[–]BabaxGanoosh 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Meditations by Marcus Aurelius
The Way Of Men, by Jack Donovan
I also read alot of biographies/memoirs of great men such as Lawrence Of Arabia, Lewis and Clark, the Apollo Astronauts etc.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Rational Male.
Everything is about sex. TRM allowed me to navigate women and men who are doing everything for or in pursuant of a woman this directly carries over to professional settings, negotiating contracts etc.
[–]Momo_dollar 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know books are all the rage. But watch "12 Angry Men" the black and white original version staring Henry Fonda, not shitty remake.
Great film, but also shows great persuasion, debating , and influencing skills. One man vs, initially, 11 varying types of personalities. Watch it while paying attention to the techniques he uses, lots of early A&A, doesn't even make his point early on he lets everyone tell him why they are right and he is wrong. Giving him the chance to assess the personality of each one he has to convince. No doubt the script was based after researching those early 20 -50s books on persuasion and influence etc.
Animal Farm - George Orwell
I was forced to read and psychoanalyze (is that a word?) it in 8th grade. I read it later without the academic bullshit and was not only entertained, but it was the starting point of everything i believe today.
[–]RedPillAccount69 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As it relates to my ex-beta status, I have to say "No more Mr. nice guy".
One book I would add is certainly "King Leopold's Ghost" which in addition to a fascinating book gives good insight into how the world really works and how if you set you mind to it you can achieve amazing (if evil) things.
[–]spurdosparade 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gorgias Dialogue - Plato
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Tao Te Ting
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I love daoism, but some of those sayings are downright slave morality predecesors. But different culture, different zeitgeist and requirements. In today's mad world, i think letting your guard down is suicide.
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I don't think it's to be taken as Gospel. There is so much in it that leads you to think ahead. When and when not to approach with a soft hand. I have never taken anything from it that has lead me to take my guard down. Taoism is taken from interpretation and no one person practices it the same. I am no Taoist, I just like how the book opens your eyes to think deeply without definite conclusion.
[–]sendmepicsofyourbutt 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
After your explanation I want to read it now. Thanks.
[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Meditations, The Willpower Instinct, Become Who You Are.
The genius frequency - John F falone
It might throw off some of the most skeptical guys, but it's a godly metaphisics book that opened my eyes to many of my abilities.
Great recommendation - thanks.
[–]Rommel0502 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Goedels Incompleteness Theorem - Kurt Goedel.
The implications of the Theroem made so many of my other beliefs fall into place.
[–]Algernoq 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Great book. Care to elaborate? e.g. Math proves personal growth is always possible?
[–]koala_diarrhea 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle - Understanding that unhappiness & dissatisfaction stem from denial of the present moment. Controlling your emotions, dealing with women, and enjoying both the finer & grander things in life - can all be improved by practicing being present. Some excerpts:
"All negativity is caused by an accumulation of psychological time and denial of the present. Unease, anxiety, tension, stress, worry - all forms of fear - are caused by too much future, and not enough presence. Guilt, regret, resentment, grievances, sadness, bitterness, and all forms of non-forgiveness are caused by too much past, and not enough presence."
"Your attention is focused on some point in the future and the present is perceived as an undesirable obstacle that prevents you from having what you want."
"The present moment is sometimes unacceptable, unpleasant, or awful. It is as it is. Observe how the mind labels it and how this labeling process, this continuous sitting in judgment, creates pain and unhappiness. By watching the mechanics of the mind, you step out of its resistance patterns, and you can then allow the present moment to be."
[–]red-triad 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
War of Art by Steven Pressfield.
If I had to choose one book and one book only that would be it. Especially if you find yourself procrastinating.
[–]CyLoke 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Zen: The Authentic Gate by Koun Yamata
Discourses by Epictetus
Atlas Shrugged
The Enchiridion by Epictetus.
James Stockdale was a pilot shot down over north Vietnam. He credits the stoic philosophy espoused by Epictetus for helping him to survive his time in a POW camp.
[–]runswiththelions 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Games People play -Eric Berne
Richest Man In Babylon
The Art of Seduction -Robert Greene
Rich Dad, Poor Dad - Robert Kiyosaki
Hardy Boys Dectective books
Rationale Male - Rollo Tommassi
The art Of the Mack- Tariq Nasheed
Play or be Played - Tariq Nasheed
48 laws of power- Robert Greene
Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill
Red Pill Orgasm
Dating Black Book
Sex God Method
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