Thoughts on an action plan from here.....

ParadoxThatDrivesUs · 2016-03-10T23:58:53+00:00

I brought up after having a small chat that im walking better and that were good to get into the swing ofthings of "1 - 2 days a week of sex.

What is this shit. You sure do talk highly of yourself but from what I'm reading you're a whiny bitch. Not talking about sex is MRP 101 tough guy. Stop it. You're able to fuck? Then show her. Instead you verbally try and negotiate a 1-2 day a week schedule using your day planner. How sexy. She must have been dripping wet.

My reply "Right now im injured so fuck off and cut me some slack. Its great you haven't noticed the consideration ive given you the last 2 months by changing in the living room. I think i might start changing in my bedroom more often."

This stinks of butt hurt. She didn't notice you went out of your way to make her happy... Boo hoo. Why are you even doing that at all? Back to step 1 with you, brother. Change in your god damn room and be done with it. She wakes up and gives you some shit? "Oh good you're up! I'll take some bacon and eggs (smiling)" Or better yet just chuckle / STFU and go about your business unaffected.

I suggested last night if things dont improve im sleeping in another room.

You're not getting this at all. Are you unable to initiate due to mobility? If you can initiate, then do it and shut up. Shot down? OI. Otherwise you're too weak for sex right now. If you can't initiate at all then you've got more than physical problems and need to revisit the sidebar.

Queue 30 minutes later on the couch she doesnt say anything but comes over and tries to start kissing me and coming noto me. I tell her no unless she wants to start communicating more with me im over it.

I don't even know how to handle this one. This feels like a joke. Do you want to talk or do you want to fuck? She comes onto you but you're too butt hurt to let her suck your dick. You're going to start sleeping on the couch because she initiated sex and you shot her down because she wouldn't plan it with you... I'm not even your wife and I'm confused about whether you actually want to fuck or just talk about scheduling a fuck for later. How confused do you think she feels? No tingles.

You think some other woman is going to jump all over your immobile ass right now? You've been out of the gym I assume. Probably pudgy. A real catch. Man up and stop pouting.

TL;DR: Quit talking about sex. Initiate more. Stop being a bitch. Stop whining. Stop being butt hurt. Stop pretending you're a master of RP. Stop being scared of your wife and pretending you're not. Read more.

alphabeta49 · 2016-03-11T00:28:57+00:00

TL;DR: OP thinks he deserves sex after recovering from an injury and is now giving his wife a covert ultimatum after he tries to discuss sex and she can't handle it. He is proof that negotiation doesn't create attraction.

"Right now im injured so fuck off and cut me some slack. Its great you haven't noticed the consideration ive given you the last 2 months by changing in the living room. I think i might start changing in my bedroom more often." You DEERed and threatened something that is probably a blessing to her.
"I brought up after having a small chat that im walking better and that were good to get into the swing ofthings of "1 - 2 days a week of sex. She was embarrassed..." No shit. Talking about sex like its a team objective doesn't wet the panties. Try being less Rambo and more Banderas.
"she doesnt say anything but comes over and tries to start kissing me and coming noto me. I tell her no..." Holy shit, dude, do you have an ego or what.
"Im ok with intentionally putting us into a db to see if she finally starts complying. Its something she wants but her head gets in the way. We've discussed it in the past. The more we had sex the happier she was. She is in her own way and is just so stubborn." Maybe arranging sex isn't working. Maybe try seducing her rather than reasoning with her.
"She knows this is her last chance." Look at you, big bad captain getting your wench in line. I hope you're not talking about divorce. Nine months isn't long enough to be throwing around ultimatums trying to get her to communicate and shave more often. And it honestly sounds like you're gunning for duty sex.

So you're basically strong-arming her into sex. Keep up this socially retarded fuckery, and you'll be divorced before the ink on your sex schedule spreadsheet dries.

You're the person I wrote this for.

Edit: your wife is still trying, but only barely so. She sees your options and your assholery, and is ready to give up. You're running asshole game, and not the good kind, but the kind that gets the PUAs over on the main sub to lose plates. Throw in some comfort, Mr. Flexing My Newfound Power.

[deleted] · 2016-03-11T00:40:11+00:00

OP, you know everything RP, and still you understand nothing.

The problem is not SHE, it is you.

Edit: See the u/alphabeta49 post, written just for you.

midlifedick · 2016-03-11T00:39:22+00:00

Let's recap. Negotiating desire (scheduling sex, telling her she is happier when you do it more), erratic behavior, withdrawing affection (not attention), arguing, saying "you need to communicate to me", covert contract (I'm hurt, be nicer to me, I deserve blah blah), turning down sex to punish (weaponizing sex), and victim mentality (this is all her fault)... did I miss anything?

This reads like her diary post. You are acting like a woman and need to start at square one with the reading. You gave a nice effort, but you didn't get it the first time. Take a day or two, then come back and read your post again with fresh eyes. You need to have an observer mindset to your behavior to fully realize why you are struggling. I suggest NMMNG again.

Raiden2 · 2016-03-11T01:33:32+00:00

It's been 155 days since I PM'd you after reading a deadbedrooms post and honestly it seems like you haven't learned a thing. Go back and read the books again, this time buy the English language ones so you might be able to gain some knowledge this time. The problem is that you haven't fully committed to this. You talk about dread and the importance of communication in the same post for fuck's sake. Maybe it's a reading comprehension issue? Maybe try Sylvan?

Anyone who has read any amount of TRP for more than a week wouldn't have turned his wife down for sex, wouldn't have asked her about when you're going to have sex and wouldn't be crying to his wife about how much his leg hurts. All of those things go directly against what is taught here.

Al I could think of reading your most recent deadbedrooms update was how ridiculous your ideas about what would work to get you laid were and how proud you were of yourself. Because in the world of the DB forum you were a raging success. Your relationship with your wife still is awful and you still aren't fuckable in her eyes, and you're upset because you know things should be better because MRP is supposed to work.

But you haven't really been fully committed to it because of your reservations about how crazy we are. It was like you had been reading TRP and even attempting to put some of it into practice while at the same time desperately clinging to the advice of deadbedrooms so you can go to sleep (with your balls still full) and know you aren't like one of those asshole misogynists on TRP. Trying to do both doesn't work. It's like trying to start a fire while also dumping water on it.

Either do the reading and start putting it into practice, give up and go back to your deadbedroom in your fancy new house, get a divorce or hang yourself. Honestly those are your only options at this point.

[deleted] · 2016-03-11T01:39:34+00:00

Im ok with intentionally putting us into a db to see if she finally starts complying.

Everything said before and after meant nothing after this vindictive bullshit. Leaders don't demand fealty. Demanding "communication" or no sex for either of you is the most nefarious covert contract I've read Mr. 99%.

Redneck001 · 2016-03-11T02:27:44+00:00

Too much bullshit on the db forum sugar coating every fucking thing.

If you're looking for no bullshit, you came to the right place.

First, I remember you. You were DB, then ExRP, and now you're here. So slap yourself on the back, you've gone from DB to getting laid twice a week. Hell yes! You deserve an atta boy.

Now that I've validated you, let's talk about your fuckups. You're in the anger phase. Gotta work through that. Get busy. You are not OI at this point.

You're injured. Women will not likely be attracted to an injured male. Especially an angry injured male. Get well before you do anything rash, like ultimatums and shit.

Stop having "little chats." Those never work for any dude. I had numerous little chats with my wife, with the "I'll do better" answer. Nothing changed. Until I got my shit together.

If you don't want to have sex with your lady, just say "not tonight." No need to explain why, definitely no need to sleep in another room. That's like a child taking his ball and going home.

Game your woman. So she's DTF.

And stop with all the talking.

And for fucks sake, get dressed in your room. Wife complains? "Aw, did I wake Sleeping Beauty?" And keep getting dressed.

I'm not even touching the alarm clock. WTF?

You ...

I just was interrupted because my wife jumped me, have no idea what I was going to say, I forgot. I did blood flow restrictions on my arms tonight, guess the lady liked my pump. Injured calf? No problem, what did you work at the gym today? See where I'm going?

Just keep improving, STFU more, and decide if she can bring value to your life.

You got this, either way it turns out.

[deleted] · 2016-03-11T04:30:44+00:00

Jesus. This sounds like a whiny bitch complaining.

Are you sure you have testicles ?

Communication is good. Overt communication with your wife doesn't make her want to sincerely fuck you.

If you wanted to communicate overtly I should have been " X happens by X time or I'm out "

As a husband you are as entitled to sex as she is to your money and so forth.

But if you are going to frame the conversation around what you " deserve" you better be backing it up with all the dread levels up to fuck me or fuck you in a congruent consistent manner.

You Being injured and being a covert contract regarding your recent does not make her wet.

As far as you sleeping in another room to punish her- LOL

tim_rp · 2016-03-10T23:25:44+00:00

I use STFU in arguments and daily life

This is the biggest success factor...and often the biggest challenge in a marriage. I know I find it hard. Judging by your post, you do too. I see a lot of talking going on, you'd do well to think about that. Case in point:

It was on. My reply "Right now im injured so fuck off and cut me some slack. Its great you haven't noticed the consideration ive given you the last 2 months by changing in the living room. I think i might start changing in my bedroom more often."

Your wife is a bitch. AWALT. You responded by being a bitch back. That's not what a manly man does. Ignore. Fog. A&A. I can maybe see a failed attempt at A&A above but "it was on" tells me argumentum ad absurdum - the essential ingredient - was missing.

She knows this is her last chance. From my point of view im close to start setting a timeline again to get out if thigns dont turn around. Life is too short to keep dealing with this bull shit.

You're thinking about setting a timeline. She's nowhere near her last chance.

Title	Thoughts on an action plan from here.....
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Date	March 10, 2016 11:02 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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