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How to rebuild frame when having obsessive negative thoughts?

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December 27, 2018
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I don’t know what it is these past couple days maybe because I’m coming off cycle and my hormones are all out of whack. But I have had zero fucking frame. Been killing it with everything going on in my life. My woman is obsessed with me and my mission and everything improvement wise in my life has been better than ever.

But this last week I have been feeling insecure as fuck. And even when I’m at work. Lifting. Doing things I enjoy other than hanging with my woman. I am having obsessive and compulsive negative thoughts.

All day about shit that hasn’t even happened. I am make hamstering myself to death and it is pissing me off. I have zero frame when in reality I am the best I have ever been so I should have a strong frame.

I’m trying to get out of this but like I said even at the gym my mind was racing. How can I establish or rebuild my frame and get rid of these negative thoughts?


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Title How to rebuild frame when having obsessive negative thoughts?
Author starky000001
Upvotes 7
Comments 20
Date 27 December 2018 04:15 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/203718
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[–]outfo5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

Don’t deny you are having the thoughts and feelings ie actively try to suppress them. It reinforces them.

Instead, just mentally acknowledge that they are there, that they aren’t you - they’re just like a mood storm kicked up by the hormones - and that they will go away in a few days even if you don’t do anything about them.

You should also probably avoid situations around people you want your frame for. If the mood storm is going to make you appear weak, indecisive, clingy, then stay away. Do some meditation. Read. Take extra naps. Go shooting. Get some massages.

Keep away from booze - it fuels mood storms.

[–]starky000001[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Okay so I must add. I was feeling all those things. Needy, weak. Etc.

I chose to take sometime to myself and my girl took it as something was wrong. I told her the hormones are making me feel weird I just needed time to be alone. And then began to fucking talk about my feelings.

Unattractive, weak and out of frame for me. She views me as strong and not the needy type. All the good traits the red pill talks about. But I came across as a beta bitch today.

How do I recover from this moving forward

[–]outfo3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

She is not your confidante. You are not her girlfriend. Don’t tell her about the mood storms (anymore). Just don’t be available and don’t explain. Think of it as your bodys way of getting you to have some down time.

Here is where pretty much all neediness comes from: as a man, you will never be loved by any woman unconditionally. They are not able to do it. Except your mother. A mother can only love her children unconditionally. And there is that memory of mothers love in us that sometimes comes to the sirface to fuck with us. You can’t go back. There is only forward. Kill the boy (Game of Thrones).

How to recover? Just recover. It never happened. If she brings it up its probably a shit test to see if you’re a pussy now. Blow it off. “I wanted to feel what it was like to be a woman for once. Gross. Wont make that mistake again.” Guess I was tired. I took a huuuuge dump and all that shit went away. shrug

Its only an obstacle if you decide to make it one.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Do you live with her?

Benefit of living alone

“Got to run babe. Have some adulting to do”

Be a bitch alone.

[–]starky000001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t live with her. Good call

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

If you are serious about this, look into a book written in 1960 called Psycho-cybernetics, written Dr. Maltz. You can read, right ?

He talks about the concept of the hidden self image. Basically, long term results are always equal to your self-image. Your self-image is like a thermostat, you can never be more than the picture or mental image that you currently have of yourself.

You can change your self image by doing certain exercises - which basically changes the wiring in your brain. You can become an entirely different person.

You are using steroids trying to overcome your insecurtities and mask all your inner fears. Now that you quit, you feel inadequate and naked. You need to fix your inner self. Not fix the outside. That comes second.

I just gave you gold. It’s up to you to be open minded enough to look into it and actually follow through.

Good luck.

[–]starky000001[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ordering it now

[–]starky000001[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Just wanted to let you know I just finished the book and it really was gold. Thank you

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You need to practice the visualizations everyday... and then eventually you’ll just become that person... once your self image is changed. It’s a continuous process.

[–]DJiamuzak0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Psycho-cybernetics is a great book. Changed my life when I read it.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

What was your cycle?

Are you running PCT?

E2 in check?

Sounds more gear related than RP.

[–]starky000001[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I just dropped to a cruise. I’m almost sure it’s Hormone related. But as I stated above. I was literally feeling crazy and my otherwise strong, non needy, always have shit under control, and fun frame turn into

The completely opposite and I was a beta bitch today. I kept my distance to my woman but by the end of the night I started talking too much. About my emotions. Yadda yadda. Unattractive bullshit. I honestly ended with her saying she needed to get some sleep that she wants to understand what I’m going through but.....cringe I know.

What’s the best way to recover from this shit show of a day. And how can I handle this better moving forward

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude I loose my shit quite often. Going through what I am.

How do I deal with it?

Caveman my GF.

Go to the gym and lift till I almost pass out.

Come on here and call anons faggots.

Go for long drives in my truck alone.

Go to the movies alone. Creed 2 last night.

Go have some TexMex Fajitas.

Deal with it however you need to. Understand you are not perfect and you get your bitch moments to.

The secret is to not let anyone see your bitch moments. Be a bitch alone or with your boys.

If you were blasting and dropped to a cruise make sure you drop your AI.

Sounds like crashed estrogen to me.

All assuming you are not a total faggot and bitch IRL.

Going out on a limb here. Lol

[–]Acerp3210 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You are without the therapeutic effects of testosterone at a sufficient level while balanced with e2 and such.

It’s gas on the fire to negative emotions. You probably shouldn’t fuck with your test dose until you feel all is resolved. Always going to be that transition phase. It won’t last forever.

[–]UnbreakableFrame1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This sounds like an issue caused by some form of imbalance. I get like this under 3 circumstances: 1. When I'm very sleep deprived. 2. When I've had way too much caffeine. 3. When I stop doing physical activity for an extended period of time -- like more than 2 weeks.

[–]plein_old1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

To solve the problem of worrying about emotions, you could try worrying that you are worrying about emotions.

Then you could try worrying that you are worrying that you are worrying about emotions.

No I'm kidding. As someone else said, just let them be whatever they are, while staying productive at daily tasks, and they'll probably chill out by themselves.

[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

maybe because I’m coming off cycle and my hormones are all out of whack.

This is it. You cannot trust your brain for a while. Keep all this shit in your head because it was YOU that put in that needle.

This is all in your head and the one of the side effects of injecting yourself with insane amounts of hormones.

I call if artificial bitch syndrome. It's really pronounced if you run 700+ a week of tren. That shit is a red pill game genie. Its cheat mode.

[–]outfo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t deny you are having the thoughts and feelings ie actively try to suppress them. It reinforces them.

Instead, just mentally acknowledge that they are there, that they aren’t you - they’re just like a mood storm kicked up by the hormones - and that they will go away in a few days even if you don’t do anything about them.

You should also probably avoid situations around people you want your frame for. If the mood storm is going to make you appear weak, indecisive, clingy, then stay away. Do some meditation. Read. Take extra naps. Go shooting. Get some massages.

Keep away from booze - it fuels mood storms.

[–]meivanlee0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ehh you had a bad day. Wake up tomorrow and be better. That’s literally all u can do.. MJ has bad days. LeBron has bad games .. it happens to champions.. what makes them champions ultimately is they wake up the next day and use that as fuel to go even harder..

Wake up tomorrow and Go Harder at your mission !

[–]IRunYourRiver0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Holidays. Fuck 'em.



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