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SgtSilverBack · 2017-05-28T20:03:05+00:00

Yup, look at me Mommy, I'm a big boy. So you'll want to fuck me now right.

But seriously. Take a deep breath and relax. This shit won't happen overnight. First, you have a plan for lifting, for reading. Follow it for you. Secondly, do you have a plan for the other areas of your life? Your career, your house, your kids so on? If not find one and stick to it.

Now, you are gonna be angry. You'll be pissed that what you were doing before want enough. You'll be mad that you are doing better and it isn't enough. You'll be mad that you wanted 17 years being a pussy that she didn't want to fuck. You'll be mad that you are trying to fix the marriage and she is a roadblock all along the road. If you put in the work you will get over and have many realizations along the way to help you mature. The real truck is not too take your anger and resentment out on her.

/U/bluepillprofessor or /u/jacktenofhearts wrote a great post about playing the nice card for 6 months. I suggest you find it and internalize it. For some insight on it, it doesn't mean reward shitty behavior my calling her pet names and massages, it just means shrug and go about you new busy life instead of removing yourself.....YET. YOU must get to a point where your presence is valuable to her before she cares if you remove it.

As you are on your journey you will learn how to deal with situations like the one in your post. The result will be to change your thinking from "I have no control" to "I am the only one that controls MY life"

For me and mine "that tickles" means I need to use my man hands and Dominate her.

ParadoxThatDrivesUs · 2017-05-28T21:22:34+00:00

She's not attracted to you. If she won't have sex with you, that's pretty much the definition of not being attracted to you. And if it's been going on for 17 years (or whatever) then that means she hasn't been attracted to you for 17 years.

I'm not trying to rub your nose in it, but for me this was an important early insight when I was starting out. It doesn't matter what you "deserve," it doesn't matter how nice or rude you are to her, it doesn't matter if you owe her a favor or if she owes you a favor, and it doesn't matter if you caught her in a bad mood.

She's not attracted to you. Until that changes, the rest doesn't matter. And when it does, the rest doesn't matter.

gettingmymojoback · 2017-05-28T19:52:03+00:00

No. Women control sex, men control commitment. Get that through your head.

None of your feelings will change until you internalize OI and abundance. This is basic sidebar stuff.

Lift, read and own your shit.

Right now you give far too many fucks.

stonepimpletilists · 2017-05-28T21:47:46+00:00

Surprised you read about covert contracts, and that bath idea didn't scream 'stop' in your head.

The professor has a book on dread, I think i'ts on the sidebar. suggest you add that one next on your list.

She gets first crack, not ownership of your dick

Terribledragon4Hire · 2017-05-29T15:14:23+00:00

She was shit testing you during the massage. Hold frame and manage it.

Her " that tickles"

You " you like it"

Her "I'm getting old"

You"so am I. Lucky we are getting sexier".

TheFamilyAlpha · 2017-05-30T18:14:34+00:00

Bro,

Do things in life because you want to do them. Give gifts because you want to give them.

Never give so that you can receive; it takes away from so much that this world has to offer.

You were laying your wife down and rubbing her naked body.

Do you know how many men have never experienced that in their life?

Now you're angry for another day, taking away from the joy you could be experiencing then.

So last night you're pissed and today you're pissed and for what? What good has that done?

Stop viewing her as wife and the girl you've been married to for 17 years.

Start viewing her as a woman.

Start flirting, gaming, and stop doing the things society has told you will turn a girl on.

The moment you stop showing love the way society has told you to love is the exact moment she'll begin to crave you.

Go about your day flirting, escalating, and do so without any hint that you want to fuck her.

She goes to take a bath you go to journal, read, whatever.

She says you're being butthurt, just nod and say ok. I'm busy I'll see you when I get to bed.

This isn't hard.

you aren't attractive.

You aren't turning her on.

You are predictable and familiar

Does any of that make you want to fuck you?

Then why should she?

BluepillProfessor · 2017-05-29T15:08:46+00:00

got rejected, feel like shit.

Imagine you are Solomon. If a girl rejects him, he laughs and sends her out from his presence. Then he summons a younger/hotter girl to suck his dick.

Do you think Solomon got rejected very often? If you have the ability to do that then neither would you.

last night I gave her a warm bath, laid her out naked on the bed, gave her a fantastic (i supposed) massage front and back, and somewhere along the way got shut down

Pretty cringe worthy. I would have snapped her with my dick and demanded she take care of the problem she created.

More likely what happened is she started to Shit Test and you failed by getting butthurt due to that Blue Pill cringe worthy fantasy of bathing her gently and expecting a sexual response.

Next time she starts complaining in a similar cringe worthy situation slap her ass HARD and tell her to shut up. Then roll her over and fuck the shit out of her. I promise that while she may continue to bitch for a couple of seconds, a powerful pounding will get you her full attention.

None of this is going to work until you stop giving so much fucks. She is NOT the best you can do. She is NOT special. She is made of the same decaying organic matter as the rest of us. Stop worshiping the golden vagina.

red-sfpplus · 2017-05-28T20:14:30+00:00

17 years beta = 17 months to turn the ship so figure two years to be safe.

The two times the previous week you had sex was it after an over complicated bath, massage and whatever in the hell else you did you try and covert contract sex from your wife?

Dude. Lift. Read. STFU. Read what you read again and STFU even more. Do that for 6 months then come back and ask for phase two advice.

You have a long way to go, but it can be done if you stop doing it for her but for yourself.

redmountainpill · 2017-05-29T05:15:43+00:00

It helped me to realize that she doesn't owe me sex and if I choose to be monogamous with her, that's my choice. And I can't get mad at her for my choices.

Of course, if you don't have a choice to be monogamous then you'll feel trapped. Make yourself into a person who has options

TurdDoctor · 2017-05-30T21:10:37+00:00

I feel your pain...I'm further along than you are and struggle with this too. When you get in a bad mood because of no sex, go read the Bluepill Professors book Saving a Low Sex Marriage. I did this over the last 2 weeks and it helped me feel better about myself, more in control, and more confident.

It's hard to not give a fuck when denied. Be OI and work to change your mindset. Be encouraged, knowledge is power, decide to have a better attitude, improve your mind, improve your body. Don't feel bad about your life because there could always be worse- I've been denied on our anniversary and Valentines day- Fuck! The problem was me though. Keep working on you only for the reason to be a better version of you, not to get laid.

BTW, don't give her a message while your are dressed. And if you aren't dressed, put your dick somewhere you like, see what happens. Tell her anything with a crafty smile. "Oh look, my dick is shy and needs a warm place to hide." If she stops you, the message stops and you kiss her on the cheek and go read or workout. Don't show her you are pissed. Don't be a bitch. She needs to be more attracted to you and that only happens by improving you.

Life_advice_me · 2017-05-28T20:12:48+00:00

Welcome to the Anger Stage. Losing frame when denied sex when starting MRP is not a big deal. You've had some success but you have not internalized that you should be the prize and you rewarded her "good" behaviour because you still have the blue pill dream of happy ever after. She's off of the pedestal at the moment but as soon as you get a couple of nights of affection, you'll put her right back on it. Take her off the pedestal permanently and use this anger to change your relationship. In Stoicism we are told to use our emotions like we use tools. Don't pull away from your wife but instead use your anger to achieve your goals. It is a powerful emotion so be careful with it but use it to give you the courage to try new things and not give shit about the outcome.

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