Red Pill for me?

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May 1, 2017

I'm new to red pill. I'm lifting, working the sidebar, and agree with a good chunk of what you guys say. But I married my high school sweetheart, and as far as I'm concerned, owning my shit means sticking to it. Divorce is off the table unless she starts fucking someone else. I made a commitment for life. I'm owning it. Also I made a monogamous commitment for life. I'm owning that too. While I like the self- discipline aspect and consistent self improvement, as well as learning masculinity in a feminine world, the cheating and divorce encouragement is pretty rampant. It doesn't jive with my Christian values. Am I wasting all of our time on here?

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Title Red Pill for me?
Author sivarias
Upvotes 11
Comments 22
Date 01 May 2017 04:22 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children) | Copy

Guys, dont buy the concern troll. Post is locked.

[–]PersaeusRed Beret10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy

it is a box of tools. if you don't like the hammer than don't use it. however, if and when you ever need to drive a nail don't whine about the vise grips not working.

[–]sivarias[S] 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

I can respect that stance, wanted to lbs from the more experienced if they knew it as an all or nothing approach.

[–]rocknrollchuck2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Like Persaeus said, it's a box of tools. Use what aligns with your Christian values, discard the rest. I'm a born-again Christian and I've been here for almost 2 years. I find a HUGE amount of value here, even if some of it goes against Biblical values. But you learn stuff out in the world too, where Biblical values are actively sneered at for the most part. The men here are respectful of my beliefs, whether or not they agree with them. I give them respect despite their non-Biblical viewpoint.

The best thing about being here is that you will be told the truth. Jesus said "And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." You cannot make a change if you don't even know which direction to go. This place provides that, pointing clearly in the direction of taking ownership of your life, being a strong confident man, and sharing the truth about how women are so that you can formulate a winning strategy and live a life that works. These things were all taught by fathers to their sons in the past, but most of us don't have that these days. Our fathers were either weak, emasculated "Yes dear" guys, or they just weren't there. Think of it as an online mentorship.

Yeah, as a Christian you can find what you need here. You're not here for Bible study, you're here for everything else that isn't taught in the Bible. Here's an article that may be helpful for you (actually, all the on BGR articles are great Christian-perspective viewpoints):

[–]drty_prRed Beret0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

The more experienced?

[–]sivarias[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Those of you who have been at this for years.

[–]drty_prRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That commenter is one of the best in this community. If you decide to try to become a better man by sticking around and posting in the OYS thread, you will see why.

[–]anythingincRed Beret5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm lifting, working the sidebar, and agree with a good chunk of what you guys say....Am I wasting all of our time?

Uhm, you're going to have to answer that for yourself.

But I married my high school sweetheart

Doesn't matter who the fuck she is, she's worthless if she doesn't add value, make your life better, and fuck you. You're here, so something must be missing.

Also I made a monogamous commitment for life.

Great! Your martyr complex doesn't have to affect the outcome. The simple truth is that, very likely, once 80+% of women would fuck you, your wife will too, you don't actually have to do the fucking for it to work.

There is the possibility that once you realize you can do better, and the martyr complex gets old, you will leave your wife to have a better life if she never comes around.

Ironically, getting to that point is often what it takes for the wife to actually come around. So by saying "divorce is off the table" you potentially limit your effectiveness. You are just going to have to hope that you can get the marriage you want without getting to that point. Some men do, some don't. I hope for your sake you can, otherwise you are in for a long, sex-starved marriage unless she ends it for you.

I've got 100lbs to lose

Quit fucking worrying about it now, nothing matters until that happens. You're here writing your Academy Award speech and you don't even fucking have head shots to go to a casting call for a local mattress outlet commercial.

[–]sivarias[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I needed to hear that plainly rather than letting my mind whirl in what if's. Thank you.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

It doesn't jive with my Christian values.

Then you have nothing to fear. Unless merely reading from a group of Internet strangers' comments that they are sometimes cheating and divorcing will inevitably cause you to cheat and divorce...then I think you would need to work on your

self- discipline aspect and consistent self improvement

Truth be told, however, a big subtextual takeaway you may find within the sidebar and comments is: Question your motives for EVERYTHING. Ask yourself "why am I doing this" and fill in "this" with "buying my wife flowers" or "rushing home from work" or "following these Christian values" OR "staying with this woman I actually do not like upon further introspection". Instead of asking if you're wasting your time on here, ask if you're wasting your time with these parts of your life. If your values are true, again, you have nothing to worry about. But if they arent...?

[–]sivarias[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

The dissonance with my values is what prompted the question. I just wanted a secondary opinion from those who are more experienced and possibly share my faith as to whether this was all or nothing. You can't get in shape by eating big macs every day while sticking to 5x5.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You missed the point. You're saying "My values are rock this path for me?" I'm saying "Are they? Walk the path and find out."

[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I love concern trolls in the afternoon. Always a nice way to round off the hump of the day.

[–]sexyshoulderdevil75% Liquid Sarcasm5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Do you like boobs? I love boobs. You sound like a boob. Ergo...I love you? Something seems off. I'll meditate, cheat and divorce while I mull this conundrum over.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Make sure you do all three. It is all or nothing after all.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, was that what you wanted to hear?

No man worth his salt on here is going to placate your wishes here. Stay or not, it's your call.

I will suggest bringing something more valuable to the table than your humblebrag of marrying the first girl who touched your dick

[–]The_LitzRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You obviously feel uncomfortable being here, I get that. Ask yourself why you are uncomfortable. Is it guilt by association or is it hearing something you don't want to hear or face. Have you read NMMNG?

[–]sivarias[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

2/3 rds then back through to work out the plans. It's guilt at the thought that I'll be "manipulating" the wife. We'll see where I'm at after NMMNG and WISNIFG.

[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Probably, yeah, would just move onto the blue pill and save yourself the hassle.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Bro the good news is that you don't have to worry about being tempted by other women for at least a year or two while you lose the weight.

Also, unless you're willing to challenge everything in your life you'll never achieve real freedom. You'll always be a slave to the dogma of your ancestors. Don't you want your value system to be YOURS?

[–]sivarias[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

It is mine. In so many more ways than one. I have witnessed miracles big and small. I have tested God and been pushed back and/or rewarded, but that's a discussion for outside this forum.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's awesome if you can say that you've really examined everything. As for the values, passive dread is usually more effective than active dread. Still, if divorce is off the table you'll probably reach a limit. She can treat you like garbage (not that she will) because she knows you'll never leave.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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