Mark Rippletoes Starting strength

PedroIsWatching · 2017-02-28T19:09:13+00:00

Don't fucking do Starting Strength. The purpose of the program is to give you a base to become as strong as possible as fast as possible, with the idea of an aesthetic physique being completely discarded. It's purely about putting big numbers on core powerlifting lifts. The dietary advice given is also hilariously awful, although it's primarily meant for people in skelly mode that need to drastically up their calories.

SS will get you extremely good at doing deadlifts & squats, and you'll look like it too. You'll get massively overdeveloped legs and quads, and hilariously under-developed everything else.

How do I know this is true? Because I fucking fell for this meme back in 2012. Based on advice from the Fitness subreddit (lol) I followed the book to the letter. I believed Rippetoe when he said "only vain assholes do direct bicep work" and I neglected upper body work in favor of the squats & deads. I ended up looking like the pic above but 20lbs fatter and with somehow smaller arms.

Anyone that says "well if you look like shit afterward, you're doing the program wrong!" is being willfully disingenuous. SS was created to get you good at doing the powerlifting lifts that are squats/deads/power-cleans. It was not created to get you a good looking body. Anyone that prescribes Starting Strength to a newbie that just wants to look good naked is doing that newbie a massive disservice. Read SS for the genuinely good material on lifting form, and disregard every other aspect - especially all workout guides and dietary advice.

nightmancommeth · 2017-02-28T17:21:51+00:00

HAHAHHA No! Just go on a solid body building diet. Paleo would be an easy one to follow and you wont get fat as shit.

dendsm111 · 2017-02-28T14:58:19+00:00

Welcome aboard the gains train brother. Stay disciplined. Make sure to eat well and get as much sleep as possible. It's going to be awesome.

Fuck_Brooke_Shields · 2017-02-28T18:40:17+00:00

You need to bear in mind that Rippetoe doesn't give a fuck about aesthetics. His advice will teach you how to properly perform powerlifing movements and get you strong, it won't necessarily make you look good.

[deleted] · 2017-02-28T15:00:49+00:00

Google "mark rippetoe a clarificataion"

short answer: if you get fat, you're not doing the program

2000ber · 2017-02-28T12:27:28+00:00

Just try the program for a couple of months, you're not going to get fat, from working out. Dont change your diet, and you will see, that it's the diet that will give you that excess weight

pleasehelpkpopme · 2017-02-28T13:42:39+00:00

Do the program add in 3 accessory lifts to each day. Keep your cardio up. Don't over do it on the accessories, stress time under tension and effort. Not load. The idea with SS is to get stronger each week.

iam_Z · 2017-03-01T01:46:45+00:00

Your body will adapt to the stress that is placed upon it. That means if you follow his program which will include only bench/dead/squat/cleans your body will only adapt to that. And your body is a system. It will use the most efficient method to achieve what you ask of it. If you bench only and do not include exercises that improve the components separately then the weakest link will hold you back. And your bench will stop improving.

I did 5x5, and similar programs and gained strength and I didn't lose much weight. My bodyfat has gone down but I still have alot left to lose. And I also did Shieko program for powerlifting. I'm strong and fat which isn't what you want to look like.

My suggestion Is to consider if you are fat and need to lose weight. Or if you just need to add muscle. If you are fat then you should lose as much of it as possible before trying to lift. It will take you years to notice that you look better if you are fat and start lifting. Because you are trying to change your shape using the hardest tool which is putting on muscle.

If you are skinny and need to put on muscle, then the best movements are compounds because they use the most muscle mass over the longest range of motion. You can do Strong Lifts 5x5 which is very similar to this program. However it includes lat work which is more important then cleans. After 2-4 months when you have your base of strength. Then you can start doing more bodybuilding types of movements (isolation) for smaller muscles that you want to improve (biceps, triceps, delts, etc).

I don't know if I hit everything that needs to be said. If you have any questions ask.

ALSO don't forget to work on mobility if its yoga or whatever. If you work really hard to be strong you want to be able to enjoy life without having to be tight.

desno · 2017-02-28T14:47:08+00:00

So long as you dont go overboard with eating lmao. If you're skinny then I wouldnt even worry about it.

BrodinsOats · 2017-02-28T22:17:22+00:00

lmao. The book is great for learning the biomechanics, cues, and proper form for your barbell lifts.

Just don't listen to his advice about food.

JackGetsIt · 2017-02-28T13:00:36+00:00

Are you fat right now? That guys name is Izzy and he's a great Youtuber and has a few videos where he talks about weight gain and loss. I'd hold off on his videos because they are more geared for someone that been lifting and familiar with all the jargon.

You're not going to get 'fatter' unless the new weight lifting program makes you hungrier and you go crazy on your caloric intake. Since your living in 2017 you probably already eat a caloric surplus so all you have to do when you start lifting is carefully monitor what you eat and don't eat more then you ate before lifting.

Scooby explains this stuff for the layman pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi-jnsG0Z7Y

Here's another

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63wAuuIQ-GM

Now Scooby gets some hate because he over simplifies things sometimes and has some broscience. If you want the very heavy science side of things then look into IIFYM websites and these two guys: Lyle McDonald, and Eric Helms.

Eric does the youtube thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFo_wQq8M3Q

There's also guys that argue against the calories in calories out thing: Essop Merrrick is one of my favorite health and nutrition vloggers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lMO_ufA-74

Bottom line is there's a lot on information out there and there's a big risk of analysis paralysis. Getting to the gym and starting Mark Rippetoes Starting Strength is great for you. Just do it as soon as possible. Another bottom line: weight lifting and health is a marathon not a sprint. Don't do anything that will make you not want to get back into the gym on a consistent basis. You're not going to grow and change with out consistent small increases in resistance. In weight lifting we call this progressive overload. Progressive overload is king.

tryingToBeRed89 · 2017-02-28T17:38:33+00:00

Check out the book 'bigger leaner stronger'

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