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One More Condom in the Landfill - "If you are decent guy, most everybody expects you to get shit on romantically and just take the lumps for a decade, then get the used-up, washed-out, emotionally-wrecked left-overs of the assholes' pillaging."

erwgv3g34

June 10, 2014
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Title One More Condom in the Landfill - "If you are decent guy, most everybody expects you to get shit on romantically and just take the lumps for a decade, then get the used-up, washed-out, emotionally-wrecked left-overs of the assholes' pillaging."
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erwgv3g34

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Date June 10, 2014 4:18 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

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[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Economics 101. It's all about incentives

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Are you trying to say women are partially responsible, shitlord? /s

[–][deleted] 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]1FloranHunter 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I maintain frame by remembering that people respond to incentives. Give into a tantrum and you have to deal with more tantrums. Someone does something intending to benefit me? Reward it even if it's not useful or is a minor break in my moral beliefs.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This sentiment is probably more common than any other amongst people who realize we're in the last days of western civilization.

That's how you know it really is the last days of western civ, and not just a hiccup.

The last of the (west) Roman Empire were not especially anguished to see it crumble away, either.

[+]HalfPastTuna -17 points-16 points-15 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

This sub is losing it's mind with this shit. Get a grip people.

[–]bringer_of_fight 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wake up sheeple

[–]87GNX -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD WHY DID YOU DO THAT

[–]Jaqar -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I have to agree with you here. The West does remind us of the later Roman Empire, but I don't think it can fall altogether quite the same way a single entity like Rome did.

I also don't think that even such a violent event as was the fall of the Roman Empire was a total collapse of the West, seeing how there's still cultural continuity from the Hellenes and the early Roman republic to this day in the West. To think the West will collapse and there will be widespread chaos or some variation of end times is an overestimation.

[–]1Gavlan_Wheel 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The west will die a slow death and I think most western countries will land somewhere between South Africa and Brazil. Mostly a hellhole, but hey, at least you have running water and internet.

I know people have been predicting China being a great power forever, but they are seriously poised to be one now. China is the only country taking genetic engineering seriously. When they start pumping out IQ 130+ children on a constant basis, while the west wont touch it because "OMG HITLER", they could easily rule the world.

[–]jacks1000 33 points34 points35 points 12 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

So I know this couple. He's a regular dude, far from rich, not particularly handsome but not really ugly either. Some "alpha" qualities - except around his women, then he's totally "beta." What seems to be her main attraction to him is his artistic talent, he does some very unusual art, and makes a decent amount of money selling it. You can see she is quite fascinated by his art, loves to watch him create it, and it turns her on. It's some unique very masculine talent that this guy has, and that's what fascinates her and gets her aroused.

If she lived in a war zone, she likely wouldn't been all that particularly fascinated by this guy's artistic talents. Chances are, she'd be far more fascinated by some other guy's talents with guns, or his ability to dominate other men in his gang. What is interesting and fascinating about men is very dependent on the cirumstances, and women are nothing if not practical.

The typical manosphere complaint about hypergamous women that don't like "nice guys" is true - but honestly I think you are missing the point. "Nice guys" and "good providers" are not in short supply right now. They aren't particularly fascinating, beautiful - or useful. Yes, sure, we used to have a system where such men were given status, and women were perfectly happy with these men, as the status turned them on. But nice guys with good jobs who defer to women and want to "provide" for them are simply not the masculine characteristic that are prized right now. Other masculine traits are prized.

If you think all the "bad traits" are prized by women - you're just admitting and realizing that your particular masculine traits are no longer prized. One assumes the culture has simply passed you by. Because outside of the manosphere, plenty of men are in fact having sex and I can assure you they are not all Alpha Studs.

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[–]Zaorish9 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree. The asshole model of masculinity is valid because it requires confidence, not because it results in douchebaggery. A man can absolutely be responsible and attractive at the same time, but he must have confidence, must have his mission, must have self-respect and standards for respect.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The asshole model of masculinity is valid because it requires confidence, not because it results in douchebaggery.

Absolutely. If you're willing to piss people off the message you're broadcasting is "I can deal with whatever you're going to do as a result of being upset," which is something you only do from a position of strength.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. But, to me, being "nice" is a euphemism for being weak. The word "no" has to be part of your vocabulary. Agreeing with women for the sake of keeping the peace and showing that you're simply happy to be in her presence is a sure fire way to be boring and unappealing. Have opinions. But keep it light and keep it funny. You can be polite and respectful without being a sad-sack "nice" guy.

You'd be surprised at how many folks don't learn this. If a person grew up in a toxic environment at home, they may not have internalized that it's ok to set boundaries. That's what this subreddit and folks like this guy are for. If a person has this knowledge and still lets himself get walked over, then they have themselves and themselves to blame.

That said, fixing people ain't my problem, they have to choose to do that themselves.

[–]1FloranHunter 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

During my childhood the adjective "nice" was always used when you had nothing to say about a person. They're boring but not actively unpleasant.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Very true. 50 years ago women went for the good citizen company man, but decades of social change have made that archetype obsolete, unbeknownst to the "good guys" that can't get laid in today's society. The tattooed artist/athlete/entrepreneur is in.

[–]jacks1000 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

50 years ago women went for the good citizen company man, but decades of social change have made that archetype obsolete, unbeknownst to the "good guys" that can't get laid in today's society. The tattooed artist/athlete/entrepreneur is in.

Yes, pretty much. The Company Men used to have status but don't anymore. It's interesting who creates these status systems. One of the reasons the Church/churches only have men as priests and in the hierarchy is so men, not women, control the status. The fact they are supposed to be celibate - not married - means they exist outside of the sexual system thus are supposed to be objective about it.

What happens when a Protestant church starts ordaining women priests? You have gay weddings, feminist art, and the men leave in droves.

I called it the Mannerbund; it's the hierarchy of men that can create the social status that is attractive to women. The Beta Company Men Providers of the 1950s built a little middle class paradise of suburbs and automobiles and the women were happy with not just the creature comforts, but also the status that they got by association - marriage - with one of those Beta Company Men.

Tattooed artists and unique, individual guys can only exist during relative prosperity of course, and as all the self-described "Sigma Males" will tell you, they are loners who exist outside of the status system (so they say.)

Get a bunch of guys together - a Mannerbund - whether it's a street gang or a start up - and that provides the social status. Beta Monogamous Company Men was one such system, one such mannerbund, but it's gone.

So what's next?

[–]homosexualsaipian 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Computer/Software revolution has been engineered by men, mostly. Silicon Valley consists of powerful men by association and women having to work to get those powerful men. Now, in their prime of 20-30, these geeks (who were once outcast in their teenage/freshman years) are powerful, rich, and prosperous.

Comic Con or other geeky conventions were also male driven manospheres, which has become female infested ground of feminized business.

I am not sure what's next. Maybe Redpill or something new. I know that Trade is now becoming a new trend for young men who are disillusioned by university and liberal arts degrees. that could be something significant in 20-30 years time.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I say the answer to that perhaps can be found here, in the "manosphere". As feminist empowerment of women drives them to embrace their innate sexual imperatives, more and more men will turn to TRP and other movements for their own empowerment and self actualization. Expect the "player" lifestyle to be more accepted as an ideal, perhaps polygamy will make a comeback in the next 50 years.

[–]jacks1000 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

the answer to that perhaps can be found here, in the "manosphere".

You know the concept of "putting your mission first" right? The problem with the manosphere - maybe the limitation of it is a better way to put it - is that it's focused on women/sex and associated issues. That's not putting your mission first, that's putting women first.

Ever see the movie Groundhog Day? The most "red pill" movie ever. He tried to win the girl by learning French, because she loves French, pretending he likes the same drinks and movies she does, and otherwise trying to cater to her idea of what her "ideal man" would be.

At some point he gives up, starts "improving himself" becomes well liked in the community, learns to play piano and the like. Of course, the tables have turned and now she's chasing him.

He put his mission first.

The manosphere is good for teaching guys stuff like that.

[–]homosexualsaipian -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think there is a level above TRP which is Men Going Their Own Ways (MGTOW) and abstaining from sex by choice and controlling their innate desire to be around women.

[–]More_Human -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You know the concept of "putting your mission first" right? The problem with the manosphere - maybe the limitation of it is a better way to put it - is that it's focused on women/sex and associated issues. That's not putting your mission first, that's putting women first.

Ha, yes. Thank you for stating that so succinctly. Its a point so many of us realize later on, or not at all.

[–]Zaorish9 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's already making a comeback. Read up on "polyamory" and you will find that (a) they are mostly women and (b) the correlation between them and "slut pride parades" is very high.

[–]TaylorWolf 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Still can't wrap my mid around how tattoos make a guy more attractive. What a stupid thing.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's an edgy badboy rebel thing

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That was certainly true 25 years ago, but is it still true when every dork has one too?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't like tattoos myself, but the appeal was described to me well by someone saying it was about how you can't take them back - you have to know yourself enough and be really solid that your choice is going to be a part of you even if fads come and go.

I don't think many people will say that by thinking about it logically, but I understand how in a subtle way this makes sense. I'm still not getting one though.

[–]TaylorWolf -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea that makes some sense.

For me it's just I keep reading about how tattoos are way out of the question in other cultures/countries, where it is illegal to display tattoos in public.

It just seems to be the ignorant and sheltered american girls who are thirsty in this silly corner of the world.

[–]DrXaos -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or maybe, 50 years ago, women's parents went for the good-citizen company man and their daughters listened to them more.

[–]1lucifa 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

All about context and environment. A 50 year old lecturer with charisma and intelligence will be the most attractive man in the room for one social group, but in another be completely undesirable and overlooked.

It's about being the top 10% of your herd. Whether that's art, competitive sports, music scene, or whatever.

[–]erwgv3g34[S] 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Far better to be a big fish in a small pond. That's how cult leaders work; they are considered creepy weirdos by mainstream society, but damn if they don't sleep with all of the cult members' wives.

[–]Zaorish9 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Good analysis of the issue, but be careful. The author's words seem to lean towards nerd-rage, otherwise known as "useless anger at the current state of the universe".

He is correct that the current marketplace rewards the douchebag archetype slightly more now than the responsible archetype as in the past, but only on a moderate level (The Dashing Rogue was always attractive to women. Witness the fact that while Stag Beetle males battle each other for dominance over a tree branch, interloper males sometimes sneak up and bone the female spectators). However--and this is a big however--I believe that either archetype can be executed with a dominant, masterful, flirtatious frame.

Don't give in to nerd rage. Simply observe the world as it is now, then select your personal mission accordingly. Do it with confidence, with full understanding, with zero regret, and inner calmness.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not just that you are getting leftovers, it's that you are spending your best time on this earth invested in some meaningless bullshit. Tack on a 60 hr a week job you at best tolerate and at worst hate, money spent on a bunch of bullshit to (ineffectively) impress women, etc. There is nothing quite like being young, exploring the world, taking risks to build a high-reward career because you can afford to fail, fucking when your hormones are at their max, and so on.

There's nothing quite like being young and high SMV / RP. Sure, we cling to our narratives of "plug away and live large when you are 40 and your diligent investing has paid off". When you are 35 your SMV will peak young man, just study now. And these are not wrong ideas - you should be diligently investing and you should work hard to build up a long term career that has security.

But you only get one life. Dump it into a bunch of bullshit, and you never get it back.

[–]icanteventhecat 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When the last, violent, death throes of whatever is left of our civilization come, I’m going to revel in their suffering, for it will be well-deserved.

Let it burn.

Or um...I dunno, learn to adapt to changing conditions to maximize outcomes instead of worrying about incentives.

Women changed; now it's our turn to change in response. Even feminists acknowledge men need to change (of course in ways to suit them). This is why I don't think there's much of a point to whining about feminism: it's not going away just because it's evil/wrong/illogical. It'll fade when it's disincentivized by guess who? Men. Women unbalanced the equation; now we re-balance it.

We're men. Men do.

Welcome to TRP.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I spent my 20s in absolute confusion. I thought I was picking EVIL ladies but then other men would do OK with them. I finally realized from the web what was going on. It still took years to reprogram myself. Now i'm in a phase where romantic reality is so off-putting that I don't want to chase anyone. Thanks but no thanks. I live in a virtual world. I flirt. I game but when I catch a fish I throw her back without eating her.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Love it. I will not ever marry a girl over 30. That's a promise!

[–]1whatsazipper 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't get married ;)

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why not? That divide between asshole, asshole alpha, and Beta and Omega is an important TRP concept.

[–]Blood_Vaults -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The columnist is like a shady used car salesperson. Trying to get that guy to buy a decade old Geo Metro with a chinese transmission for double the sticker price of when it was new. Such a soulless creature.

[–]DAEHateRatheism -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the kind of thing that would get posted and laughed at in /r/justneckbeardthings

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love how that woman bitches about her ex being a douche and getting laid. Only women can do that! /s

[–]Confluenced -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How does this trash get upvoted. It's a blue pill piece, complaining. MAN THE FUCK UP.

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