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Role reversal: Halle Berry wants child support of $16,000/month to her ex-boyfriend & baby daddy slashed, claims he's living off it

Captain_Unremarkable
October 16, 2014
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Title Role reversal: Halle Berry wants child support of $16,000/month to her ex-boyfriend & baby daddy slashed, claims he's living off it
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Captain_Unremarkable
Upvotes 125
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Date October 16, 2014 5:09 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
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[–]SomebodyCool109 points110 points111 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

The Oscar-winning actress wants Gabriel Aubry to get a job and stop using the system.

The guy should adopt all the usual defenses that women employ in this case and watch as feminists struggle to shoot down their own arguments:

"Oh but I need to spend time with him, he takes so much time!"

"I can be a better parent like this, and what's most important is the interest of the child!"

"The child needs to enjoy the same standard of living when is with me that when he is with his mom, and I can't afford that on my own"

"As a single dad, I can't find a job that provides me a healthy work-life balance, and my child comes first!"

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan60 points61 points62 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

And watch the hamster enter NUCLEAR MODE as it spins the wheel so fast it splits atoms.

Seriously though if he's watching the kid all the time just imagine the cost of a full time live-in nanny it's probably less but still she shouldn't have spread her legs and stuck this dude with her spawn like some deadbeat mother.

[–]QOTstoneage30 points31 points32 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love hearing about exceptional cases where men are able to beat the systems that screw over 99% of us. The Kevin Federline's of the world (however douchey) deserve a round of applause. They have made it. They have won.

[–]forgeror2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well.. This dude was/is a model.. So.. He must have good genes ... She probably just spread her legs for him thinking that she'd dispose of him after she got his genes into her child ... Now that backfired ...

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or his career would be way better than hers and she'd be able to mooch off him.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

i started to laugh with the NUCLEAR MODE and splitting atoms :D good work

[–]1iluminatiNYC6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"As a single dad, I can't find a job that provides me a healthy work-life balance, and my child comes first!"

As a working single dad, all I can say is ROTFLMAO! I have too much dignity and a desire to work to do that, but I cannot hate on some other dude doing otherwise. :)

[–]Hokuto199x48 points49 points50 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Rofl. Oh boy, here we go!

No man ever got out of child support by proving the mother was living off of it. This is a very amusing flip of the script.

[–]1independentmale2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No man ever got out of child support by proving the mother was living off of it.

Exactly. My ex wife is milking the piss out of me in child support. Working "kind of sort of" part time when she feels like it, but living it up in an expensive rental, taking lots of little trips and vacations and so on.

I complained to my attorney that none of the money was going to my son. He laughed at me. Said the courts don't care and there's nothing that can be done about it.

[–]cryptedsky10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I personally hope she wins. Because it would mean that we could use this case as precedent in court.

[–]IProbablyHaveEbola72 points73 points74 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Family court doesn't give two shits about precedent.

[–]Hokuto199x13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm of two minds. Part of me just wants to see a man make out like a bandit in family court ONE TIME.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points33 points 11 years ago* (29 children) | Copy Link

What a joke society we live in. How can any child, under any circumstances, cost $192,000 a year. Keep in mind child support is not taxed so its roughly equivalent to a $260,000 income. And here's the kicker, the other spouse doesn't even get to deduct that from his income. Essentially he pays the taxes on that. Source: my father.

There needs to be a flat calculation for the cost of a child (indexed to inflation) for support purposes. Any other method is insanity.

[–]EeeeeeevilMan26 points27 points28 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

It needs to be capped at a lower-class bare minimum level, no matter how rich the parent is. If the parent wants to give more? Great. If not? Your parent's a greedy piece of shit--sorry about your luck. The government has no business telling parents they have to provide their children luxurious lifestyles (and we all know where the money really goes anyway).

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like a plan.

Also a lot of child support paying father's dont even get visitation rights even if they want to be involved in their kid's life. This could be a good bargaining chip in ensuring more joint or shared custody arrangements (which typically do not involve formal child support)

[–]AminalBones3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not entirely true, Joint custody means that you have to split the major decisions in a child's life( IE, religion, medical, school...). That is ALL custody is, the child support comes in on the amount of overnights one child spends at another. I know for a FACT that KS and OK still make the non custodial parent pay child support, especially if that custodial parent makes a large sum more than the custodial parent.. I should know because I have joint custody of my son and I'm paying 500 a month + carrying medical insurance on him or roughly around 650 a month.

[–]dhump2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

When I got divorced, I was unemployed and had just ran out of unemployment benefits. My income was zero, my ex was still making $65k. I still had to pay $300/mo on zero pay.

They may tell you what the custodial makes is figured in, but if the custodial is a woman, all bets are off.

[–]AminalBones0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think this has more truth than not, but any normal person knows that food and shelter for a kid does not increase your bills by 500 a month.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's what I implied when I said "[t[here needs to be a flat calculation for the cost of a child." Essentially they should figure out the cost of a child in your jurisdiction (perhaps based on the consumer price index) and assign that as the child support in all cases. Of course there should also be a cap based on percentage of total income of the paying spouse.

[–]SomebodyCool0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It needs to be capped at a lower-class bare minimum level, no matter how rich the parent is.

There wouldn't be any need to do that if the law simply allowed people to have child support cut if they can show their partner is not spending it on the child. Oh you are using 2k of those 16k to pay for your luxury car? good, it means they are not going to your child and thus you don't need them.

Oh and if you keep doing that shit, showing that you don't care about your child and won't spend the money allocated to them on them? then you are not fit to be a parent you greedy fuck, and custody should go to the other parent.

[–]hermit0870 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats what I keep saying. It should be a $20k a year hard limit, even if the father is Bill Gates.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The courts don't want the child to pick parents due to one parents ability to give gifts and live in a palace while the other is living in a shot gunned shack

[–]Gunnilingus2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

To be perfectly frank, I don't see why that shouldn't be a valid consideration.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Divorce would be better for rich men to just buy the lady a house in a similar neighborhood. Look at Mel Brooks, or Robin Williams.

[–]1sailorJery2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

it would have to be based on regions as well, because cost of living varies.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's what jurisdiction means.

[–]1sailorJery0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

which should also vary by state

[–][deleted] 2 points2 points2 points 11 years ago | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I used this: http://www.taxact.com/tools/tax-bracket-calculator.asp?sc=1409464230014

But now that you mention it I excluded state income tax. Jesus fuck we get taxed a lot.

[–]Elodrian0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Wait... Person A makes a salary, pays taxes on that money, transfers a percentage to Person B as child support and Person B also pays taxes on that money? That's just messed up. Unless the child support is going to a person in a higher income bracket, I guess. Still pretty messed up.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

It shouldn't be taxed twice. Contributing spouse should receive a tax write off (considering he essentially gave the money away akin to a charitable contribution) and the receiving spouse should pay taxes on her new "income".

[–]1neveragoodtime2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Sorry, it's not taxed twice. The person paying support gets taxed on it, the person receiving it pays not tax on it. The opposite of alimony, which is taxed as income to the receiver. As we are seeing less alimony awarded, we are seeing more child support, probably because of this and because alimony doesn't last as long anymore, and child support is guaranteed up to 18 years.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't claim it was taxed twice. Sorry if the first sentence was ambiguous. If you read the preceding comments it will make sense.

[–]Endless_Summer0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The person receiving the support also gets a deduction on their taxes for dependants.

Like, I pay 600 a month, after taxes, and can claim nothing on income taxes. She gets it all tax free, claims the child as her dependant, and gets about a $5k tax refund every year.

How is this fucking legal.

[–]1neveragoodtime0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's right, I forgot about that. I pay her the support, and instead of her paying taxes on it she takes the child tax deduction. I think we're supposed to alternate years with that, though I'm not entirely sure.

[–]Endless_Summer0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No we're getting fucked just like we're supposed to. Only a few years left for me..

[–]AminalBones0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How did you get stuck not getting to claim him every other year? That's the question I would be asking.

[–]zephyrprime0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

There is a flat calculation. The thing is, if the kid is born to rich parents, the calculation is large to begin with. The calculation isn't so much of the cost of the child so much as it is the standard of living for the child of wealthy parents. Rich parents live in mansion? Kid is worth a fraction of the mansion since kids live somewhere. Rich parents drive a $100K car? Kid is worth a fraction of that since kids are driven around. It doesn't extend to stock options but you get the idea.

The real problem for hollywood types is that their income can drop so much and the child support money isn't automatically pegged to fluctuating income.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To be honest I don't care about millionaire Hollywood celebrities. I think this hurts middle class people the most (especially upper middle class). Dude ends up forking over as much money as most people make so his ex can blow it on herself.

[–]2alisonstone9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course he is living on it. Do people actually think that $16k is used on a single baby? When women get child support payments of that size, they live on it too.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Is this why she's doing TV? My wife watches Extant and it's a pile of crap.

[–]ramaga9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

She's doing TV because she's a post-wall black woman in Hollywood who never was a great actress even in her prime. No one is beating down her door to get her in their movie.

[–]creonte0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Never a great actress? She won an Academy Award. http://abc7.com/archive/8544896/

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Academy Awards are popularity contests. Ask Dicaprio.

[–]creonte1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can somewhat understand the hate for her in this thread, but downplaying her acting in that movie is just spiteful.

[–]ramaga0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know she did. I stand by what I said.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

because she was a model, not an actress.

[–]Doctor_Mayhem4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is black knighting at it's finest.

Hey, all you Game masters out there? This is your mission: Bang and marry famous sluts, then get alimony and child support from the "liberated" whores.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I had to read the title four times before my cognitive dissonance allowed me to realize the irony of the situation; too bad it's going to go completely over the heads of all the women in the west.

[–]joaquim562 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what Kevin Federline is doing.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No matter if the man or the woman is the one who pays, these prices are ridiculous. Which fucking child need 16grand a month? No matter how rich you are, they should just make 1000 a month the upper limit then this bullshit would finally stop.

[–]pez_d_spencer1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Joan Lunden pulled this shit years ago when her ex was awarded spousal support. She, short haired cunt feminist she is, said " why doesn't the court force this MAN to get a job?" She later recanted but that is how women think.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

we should make some t-shirts:

  • proud to be a child support parent
  • bitch paying the cost to be the mother
  • child support paying for my bling
  • my child is my job and my paycheck

just to bring some attention to this

[–]Captain_Unremarkable[S] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I knocked a girl up and all I got was a baby, child support payments, and this lousy t-shirt

[–]AlfaWolf1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd love to see where this goes :D Oh the irony.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Does this woman have a portrait in an attic somewhere? She jumped over the Wall. She and Christie Brinkley need to tell the world where their fountain is.

That being said,

LOL

[–]zpatriarchy2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

right? i was watching extant on my 55" 1080p & i couldn't believe how damn young she looks. i mean, i was able to see the fake skin on the chinese guy's face during 24 a few months ago. but halle, no wrinkles.

[–]Gold_Leaf_Initiative1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

deleted What is this?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She wants it cut to $3000 dollars a month. I could totally still live on that, even with the Kid in tow.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's more than I'm currently making. way more when you consider it isn't taxed. she should be thankful that she's just paying child support and not spousal support/alimony as well.

[–]redbullandvodka0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

wow look at the fucking comments. hamsters gotta hamster.

[–]GeneralDoli0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Black female star, liberal voter, she will get her way unfortunately. BUT Charles Manson did get paroled so there is a little hope.

[–]kanaduhisfruityeh0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

All these massive child support payments are stupid. Also I wish I could have had a baby with Halle Berry. Then I could use the money to hire a babysitter for the kid while I use her money to bang other chicks.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

as sad as this sounds, so many women are doing this. and driving their male exes even to jail if they don't pay up in time. so i approve this with all my heart!

[–]AnotherLostCause-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A bunch of you guys are hamstering this. No law should force any man to pay for a child that is not in his custody. Ever. Married men should get custody of there children if they (the men) are not in jail. Children born to unmarried women should belong to the mother. There should be no common law marriage. Anything less snd men are getting ripped off.

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