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What tools and techniques do you use to internalize a frame?

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May 24, 2019
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I am underway, I lift, I got my MAP, now I’m wondering if there are any good tools and techniques to subconsciously internalise a frame.

In the past I read things about writing down positive affirmations 10-100 times a day which is supposed to accelerate the internalisation of a mindset (“I am responsible for my family, taking the decisions bla bla bla”). Then there is talk about self-hypnosis and how that can help efficiently re-program the subconscious beliefs and patterns.

I’m not looking for shortcuts, I’m just curious if anyone has some good tips and techniques that help anchoring a new frame within your subconscious in the most efficient and persistent way.


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Title What tools and techniques do you use to internalize a frame?
Author Meeterpoint
Upvotes 13
Comments 25
Date 24 May 2019 05:02 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askMRP
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[–]johneyapocalypseThe one that says "Bad Motherfucker"19 points20 points  (6 children) | Copy

Death, near-death, death-defying experiences, intense treatments to help you avoid death, copious amounts of drugs, stoicism, envisioning the 7 billion people on this planet, 3.5 billion of whom are women, perhaps causing you to wonder - assuming that this is what you're so hot and bothered about - just what exactly is so special about your woman, who makes up precisely 1/3.5 billionth of the female population, especially when you consider that she's just a bag of bones covered by meat, decaying slowly (or rapidly) like the rest of us.

Plus:

  • Lifting a lot - intensely like your eyes will bug out and your heart will explode.

  • Adrenaline - flowing - a lot - causing you to wonder if you're actually about to meet that premature death I keep rambling about.

  • Stoicism, again - Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus, or scores of others.

  • Sex - lots of it, preferably with someone who's interested in having sex with you, otherwise you may have larger problems on your hands.

  • Fighting.

  • Winning a fight.

  • Losing a fight but giving it your best shot.

  • Accomplishing your goals.

  • Maximizing your mission.

  • Achieving your vision

  • Jumping from a plane, shark fishing, boating, jet skiing, skiing, snowboarding, double diamonds, travel, Europe, Hong Kong, hiking a mountain to watch a concert in the rain, doing cool stuff by yourself, doing cool stuff with your kid(s), being cool, looking cool, walking down the street and winking at every woman you see, going to the beach and having the best body within 1/4 of a mile, swimming in the ocean at night with headphones listening to Techno or Trance.

[–]hystericalbonding5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

[–]johneyapocalypseThe one that says "Bad Motherfucker"5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

You win the Internet.

Fuck that's good.

p.s. I looked much worse and while I love moby I must admit he is creepin' in that photo.

[–]BurnedRemains4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

The nighttime ocean swim I'll never do again lol. Swam along the coast one night and under a guy's fishing line without realizing. Shortly after the dude hooks a fucking 8ft lemon shark. Noped the fuck out of there. Sharks are no bueno.

[–]johneyapocalypseThe one that says "Bad Motherfucker"2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fuck that bro, I know you... you could kick a shark's ass anytime. :-)

[–]BurnedRemains1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck yeah I could now! But not then. That shark would ravaged my booty hole.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sharks are no bueno.

Can confirm.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando23 points24 points  (7 children) | Copy

There was a time, when the man was younger, just a boy. That boy lived from day to day, dream to dream, moment to moment. He lived to have fun, to laugh, to run wild with abandon. He lived entirely for himself. The world wasn't just his plaything, the whole fucking thing revolved around him. He was the epicentre of the goddamn universe.

He had vision - he knew what he wanted to be in life... one day he would be a famous football player. The best in the world. He was sure of it. This boy had no fear. He said what he thought. He had no inhibitions. His mind was free and his heart was joyful.

This boy had frame.

Somewhere along the line, this boy lost frame. It got diluted with other things - education, societal values, parents, TV, the media, government, employers, wives, friends, politicians - all started to creep into his frame, taking it over, watering it down until it no longer existed.

By the time he reached 35, he was married, had kids, a mortgage and worked 40 hours a week, 50 weeks of the year in the same office, with the same people, wearing the same clothes, eating the same lunch in the same canteen, day after day, week after week. He spent his evenings watching the same TV shows before sleeping in the same bed with the same woman who gave him the same shitty starfish sex if he was lucky and it was a good month.

His dreams no longer existed. He rarely had fun or laughed. The world no longer revolved around him. He felt like an entirely irrelevant speck of dust on a massive fucking planet in an even bigger galaxy. He was insignificant.

He no longer had vision. He was too old and too fat to be a famous footballer. He was full of fear and anxiety. He was afraid of his boss. He was afraid of his wife. He was afraid of the unknown. Sometimes even his kids made him afraid. He rarely spoke his mind. His life was full of inhibitions. He felt trapped and his heart was heavy.

This man had no frame.

Remember the time when you were once a boy.

Remember the dreams and the vision you had.

Remember the times you laughed and played and had fun and ran with wild abandon.

Remember the time when the world revolved around you and you were the centre of the universe.

Remember who you were before the world diluted you.

Remember that time.

Remember when you had frame.

[–]tspitsatgp3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

And this, at the end of the day, is maybe all we need to read in order to understand frame.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very profound. I didn't realize I just reverted to the person I once was and stopped giving a fuck.

[–]PersaeusRed Beret3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

One the best descriptions of frame I’ve read. Also explains why psychopaths have such great frame

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's an interesting point. I was watching my son the other day - he's turning five, full of spirit, playfullness, ambition and swag. The boy has frame. I was looking at him thinking how I hoped he would retain that frame but wondered how you retain the frame of a five year old as you grow up. I suppose you don't.. at some point you need to integrate and adapt into society or else you end up as a psycopath or some such.

Your post got me thinking - I think the difference between men with frame and boys with frame is that men who grow up and maintain their frame don't have the same frame they did when they were boys. They learn to grow and adapt but instead of allowing external sources to entirely change them or pacify them, they reframe everything within their vision of the world. They realise that the world no longer revolves around them, so instead, they create their own world, which revolves around them. They may not be the centrepoint of the universe, but they are the centrepoint of their own universe.

[–]FinancialLeopard5Needs a plunger1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I love you.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I love me too.

[–]mabden0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You have described Al Bundy, who once scored 4 touchdowns for Polk High in the city championship game.

[–]helaughsinhidden3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

writing down positive affirmations 10-100 times a day

This is "reading the script", not even up to the level of role playing. Let me summarize what u/johneyapocalypse was getting at, you need to TEST yourself to find out if you will or won't break.

Stuff that developed MY frame will be different than you. Some of my examples include being in dozens of fist fights as a young man and winning, losing, and drawing. Being interrogated by police and beating a charge (don't ask!). Overdosing on LSD and making it back to reality. Learning a skill previously believed to be above me. Challenged myself to earn double my normal income in a single month by any means necessary. Mentoring kids that are truly experiencing the worst conditions in my area. Teaching a washed up, former crackhead heavy metal musician to become an above average sales person. Start a business, then proceed to succeed then losing everything and having to starting over. Free climbing without ropes, get stuck, and barely get back down safely. Took 12 stokes off of my golf game in 2 years. Win a poker tournament with 87 people in it. Overdose on drugs, cry out to Jesus, instantly recover and know I was heard and saved.

See, it's not enough to visualize or repeat words. You have to absolutely KNOW it's the truth. Within your own definition, if you were the "man you wish you were", what kind of things would you have on your list of accomplishments? Write THOSE down, do them. At the end of the day, having FRAME is really about whether you match up with your own definition of the best version of yourself. A man with unbreakable frame doesn't look to another man, a boss, friends, wife, plates, kids, or anyone else for approval because he authtically approves of himself and has the receipts to prove it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

The same place as discipline. Live in accordance with the frame you want to have and it will manifest itself.

Jocko On Discipline

Decide on your frame and live in accordance with it.

[–]NoCoast820 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Live in accordance with the frame you want to have

I believe the key to frame is congruency, and this definition is perfectly fitting here:

congruency: Because the whole agreeth to all hisparts.

This to me is the definition of MRP

[–]hack3geRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Frame may seem like this crazy, impossible thing you have to build. The crazy part is how simple it is - just always be answering the question “What do I fucking want / believe?” as long as that is always the primary driver of your decisions / actions / words you are in your frame. Don’t let anyone sway or judge you for what you want or believe.

[–]HerukaArisen1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not sure how easy this is grasp, but I have found it helpful to view frame as a bodily or an embodied experience.

You can get a hang of this in simple situations, for example, when you are laying in bed with your wife, about to go to sleep. When you're thinking "I wonder if she wants sex?", you can feel how your mind is not "in you" but where your wife is. By contrast, when you're thinking "I want to have sex", you are most definitely "in your body". Similarly, compare how the thoughts "I wonder what she is thinking, feeling etc. right now?" feel in your body compared to "I am thinking X."

Why is this relevant? Because you can come back to your frame also by moving your mind to your body, for example, by thinking about your breath or how your body feels. In challenging situations, such as in arguments with your wife, you can literally pinch yourself on the thigh or bite your cheek and bring yourself back to your body (and frame) like this.

This is by means not the only way of "building" frame, but I've found it actually works.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Sidebar.

Until your eyes bleed.

[–]sakis_ikr0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Where is this sidebar and I can't find it?

[–]FinancialLeopard5Needs a plunger1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

you have to go back to old version. I had this doubt too. |You can find in the old version of Reddit

[–]sakis_ikr2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for the advice. I did a Google search like "Where is the sidebar in reddit" and finally found it.

[–]donmcde0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That bitter taste of failure and the shittiness of the resulting situation when you fail to maintain frame should do wonders.



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