is boxing somewhat "as good" as lifting?

__TheDon__ · 2019-06-11T01:13:07+00:00

You could box and still not have an aesthetic physique. Most boxers (non-pro and some pro) are just skinny with some abs unless they’re in the heavier divisions. It all depends on how you want to look

PaddingtonBear888 · 2019-06-11T01:32:33+00:00

55 kilos at 5’8” is severely underweight. I’m not even that strong, and I could OHP you for sets of 8. Boxing will not get you the results you are after. You need to get STRONG and gain weight. Make strength training your main focus right now. You have a ton of potential at your current weight.

TyroneTheDriver · 2019-06-11T00:41:12+00:00

I box. Hands down the best fucking workout I've ever got in my life and will shred you up with proper diet and a good amount of sparring.

The better thing about boxing is the development of mental fortitude and physical toughness. Go to a real boxing gym, not a kickboxing cardio class.

You won't gain mass as much as lifting heavy weight will do for you, but you will develop your attitude and confidence in a way that only fight sports can ingrain in a young man. Hands down the best sport I've ever participated in.

Aymane221 · 2019-06-11T02:49:56+00:00

Boxing won’t get you big muscles. Gotta lift

ExternalEducator · 2019-06-11T02:25:29+00:00

i can't fight for shit and have been a timid person for the majority of my life,i also need to build some muscle

Sounds like you have three goals here: get better at fighting, become more confident/less timid, and build muscle.

Boxing will get you better at fighting, the effect lifting will have on your fighting ability is essentially zero.

Lifting will increase your musculature very quickly if you do it right, the effect boxing would have on muscle building is essentially zero.

The effect boxing would have on your timid demeanor is likely pretty small because life in 2019 isn't about being dominant in a fight. Once you leave the boxing gym no one will treat you any different because they don't know or care about how good of a fighter you are. Your physique on the other hand is a constant factor in life and will affect the way people treat you even subconsciously, and knowing that will in turn greatly affect how you feel in any situation, which will result in a much faster, snowball effect type of confidence increase in my opinion.

And since it's TRP I will say this, girls don't give a shit how much you can lift or how good of a fighter you are (exception is if they're involved on one of the activities), though they would care about status you might garner if you got good enough at either. What they ultimately care about is how attractive you are physically and how attractive your personality/game are. Lifting is the clear winner in improving both categories, so for the general goals of TRP, no, boxing is definitely not somewhat as good as lifting.

FieldLine · 2019-06-11T05:33:35+00:00

You are severely underweight. Boxing is not nearly as important as getting bigger right now. In fact, boxing (and any sort of martial art) will make it more difficult for you to gain weight and build muscle.

Put on 15-20 pounds. Train until you can squat 1.5x your bodyweight for reps. Then decide if you want to add boxing into your weight training routine.

For what it's worth, my confidence went way up when I put on a few pounds. Many men report a similar experience.

rememberthename_ · 2019-06-11T02:22:13+00:00

I don't see how it helps trp on a large scale

builds confidence
makes you look good
makes you disciplined, create a routines, start goal-setting, etc.
can meet new people in the gym

How would it not help?

That being said, boxing is a great full body workout.

morningjoe16m · 2019-06-11T00:46:51+00:00

I recommend wrestling if you want to learn how to fight. That will build your body. And if you want to learn how to fight wrestling gives you the ability to either keep it standing up or be able to take them down on something very uncomfortable. Wrestling coupled with Brazilian jiu jitsu will make you almost unbeatable. If you develop a core in these and then add boxing in a few years or so, you will be well rounded and it will give you one of the most solid platforms of martial arts.

It would be at this point you can take some funky shit like Krav Maga, which on its own is kinda dumb, but when supported by bjj, wrestling and boxing becomes much more devastating.

All the while you should be lifting. I recommend Starting Strength by Rippetoe and maybe check out some videos and data on Navy Seals, specifically BUDs, where they use exercise to separate the men from the boys. Waking up at 4:30 am and doing a Grinder routine followed by a four mile run will harden your ass in six months.

maljo24 · 2019-06-11T10:55:03+00:00

Boxing destroys your brain. Hard next.

felix04490 · 2019-06-11T13:17:25+00:00

Two different things.

Boxing will teach you discipline skills and help you gain confidence in general, also in the sense that you can walk around knowing that u can hold your own. That’s not to say misuse it and be a chode asking for fights. Psychologically very beneficial.

Lifting will change the way other people perceive you (if u take it seriously). Makes you more attractive as a person and also promotes positive masculinity and discipline. Boxing might get you fit but it will never get you the same physical benefits (aesthetically) that lifting will get you.

Imo lifting is a must, boxing is optional. Ideally you should do both.

thenewyorkmind · 2019-06-11T00:54:29+00:00

To each their own

I like having the fighter’s physique

Protocol_Apollo · 2019-06-11T02:14:17+00:00

Specificity trumps all.

If you want to become a fighter, learn how to fight. No amount of muscle will give you as much fighting skill as actually learning how to fight

Boxing won’t put on as much muscle as lifting (the point of lifting is to build muscle) but will it build some muscle? Yes, it will.

In the meantime, maybe look into working out at home and get a pull-up bar or something

sjswander94 · 2019-06-11T02:27:06+00:00

It depends on your goals if you want an aesthetic physique you’ll have to lift.Boxing has other benefits.If you want to have the greatest impact on your physique lift and eat properly. Get a routine that will work for you and stick to it. After one year of proper train and nutrition you could be 20 lbs heavier and lean.

I’d also second Boxing wrestling or Bjj it will teach you discipline and give you the confidence to defend yourself if it ever came to it.

SeasonedRP · 2019-06-11T08:57:36+00:00

You need to lift and grow. High-rep squats should be part of your program. Boxing accomplishes different things. I do both currently (box on weekends, lift three days on, one day off) and have boxed on and off since my teens. Boxing will develop self confidence, mental toughness, and excellent cardio conditioning but it probably won't give you the physique you want. I'd either find a way to do both, basing your program around lifting with boxing twice a week for cardio, or lift for a year before adding boxing.

And don't get in fights outside the boxing ring. If your purpose in taking up boxing is to be able to get in fights, you're going to be disappointed. You will learn humility and how it is stupid to get in fights.

comu_nacho · 2019-06-11T13:35:27+00:00

The one good thing from my beta old self was that I learned martial arts, and I could walk with confidence at night alone. Not Mac from iasip's delusional shit, but true confidence. I wasn't stupid, didn't ever put myself in danger.

It gave me discipline also.

But it did not gave me a good physique, I was a chubby guy all along those years. You need surprisingly little muscle to fuck someone up.

The last 6 months (post trp) I had to focus on losing fat, and last 2 on gaining muscle.

SalporinRP · 2019-06-11T02:24:53+00:00

I have seen a lot on trp talking about how you should start lifting. I don't see how it helps trp on a large scale (i still respect the concept)

TRP = sexual strategy
Women are turned on by muscles. Study: Cues of upper body strength account for most of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness
Men get muscles by picking up heavy things and putting them down again, also known as lifting

The point i'm getting to is does boxing have as great an impact as lifting does?

Too broad of a question. No, boxing alone will not make you as ripped and as muscular as a bodybuilder. Every single pro boxer has built up their current muscle mass from lifting, even if they only lift 2-3 times a week.

I want to take it up because i can't fight for shit and have been a timid person for the majority of my life

Boxing is great for improving your self-confidence but fighting outside the ring is a fool's errand unless your life is in immediate danger. Please remember that.

i also need to build some muscle. don't have enough money for do both

Most boxing gyms will have a weight section. It will be very simple and won't have tons of complex machines but they will have one almost certainly. As for money, a lot of gyms offer discounted memberships for young people like yourself. Ask.

i'm 18, 5'8 ft, 55kg

Bro you gotta get in the gym and start eating like your life depends on it ASAP. No offense but you are a twig. Good thing is when you start lifting you will most likely put on muscle like crazy.

I'm a boxer with a few amateur fights so I feel like I can shed some light on the process. I box 2-3 times a week normally and lift 4 days a week. It's tough but possible.

But dude at your weight you need to fucking lift man. You gotta put on some mass.

park_hobbo · 2019-06-11T01:54:31+00:00

if boxing interests you then do it. some mma gyms have everything (boxing, bjj, weights) with the price included.

Alternatively just do boxing and look at calisthenics. you can get some gymnastics rings for less than $20

VinterBot · 2019-06-11T01:55:52+00:00

I did Muay Thai before lifting and even though it is a great exercise plus now I can lowkick like a champ, I saw major improvements in my body when I started lifting alongside it.

CheesyStravinsky · 2019-06-11T11:24:45+00:00

Boxing is to lifting as eating your mother's vagina is to eating your girlfriend's vagina.

Redditgoodaccount · 2019-06-11T12:22:42+00:00

Boxing is 80% anaerobic and 20%aerobic. Anaerobic training will train muscles and brain to work in absence of oxygen. It's giving the best under pressure.

In my opinion the hardest and the most effective training for body and mind.

hiem3w · 2019-06-11T13:58:32+00:00

Not as good but still pretty good with the right diet.

There’s not as much resistance so you won’t build as much strength as a lifter.

But you’re still putting in a lot of work and tiring your muscles so you are still making some gains. Proper diet should help make those gains optimal.

Recommend doing both though

Steve_rebooting · 2019-06-11T14:09:28+00:00

Lifting is required.. Its the only way to gain muscle mass. Why do you want muscle? Well you know how guys love to feel womens bodies... their breasts, their ass..... we just like to grab those sexy thangs. Well when you have muscles you will find women doing the same to you. This never happened when i was skinny... but now i get squeezes and caresses over all my muscles. Women want muscles on their man as much as we want juicy ass/tits

Boxing though, is great for added confidence and the knowledge that you know how to throw a punch. It could be a supplemental hobby but should not replace lifting as your primary source of exercise. Boxing will help with your timidness, but so would a chest bigger than 98% of the men in the room.

MattyAnon · 2019-06-11T14:16:29+00:00

Boxing = cardio and no lifting.

Lift as well

TigerTamingSword · 2019-06-11T15:37:49+00:00

Boxing will give you a good, well defined physique, but don't expect to get swole doing it. If you choose to train in boxing, focus on learning how to fight and using lifting or calisthenics or whatever as a complement. Go for whatever you feel a personal inclination for, so you don't do A expecting B and getting frustrated at the result. Anyway, consider that boxing takes way more time to master than it would take for lifting to produce results, so if you're looking to get good at boxing, start now and worry about lifting later.

RainySeasonInPH · 2019-06-11T16:12:55+00:00

Both are good. They are not substitutes for each other. If you can only do one, lift.

Actually. just went back and read your full comment. At your size, packing on mass is your number one priority physically, this is not even a question. Lift.

Title	is boxing somewhat "as good" as lifting?
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Date	June 11, 2019 12:39 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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