This Is Why Plates Are Spun.

latinasonly · 2019-07-16T17:36:27+00:00

you could have been even less reactive and just texted her one text " lmk when your coming to get your jacket. "

also just in case you can meet in a public place to give it to her so she cant do anything too crazy.

Nicolas0631 · 2019-07-16T20:34:42+00:00

Disclaimer: I'll try to explain her point of view, that could apply to us in the reverse situation (as a beta). Not because I don't agree, but because I think she is really convinced of what she says. She is really convinced that you are trash now and abused her. It isn't of your fault, it is all of her fault (assumptions), but she is convinced of the contrary from good faith. For her you lied.

Act 1: You present as a great man she want to fuck and make it happen. You make it clear you don't want commitment. The reality is that you'll not commit, you continue to have sex with other women and that the relation is just conveniance for both of you to spend great moment sharing sex. No more.

For most people outisde of redpill/pua, this isn't like that. Everybody want an LTR, to be in couple and they are just selective to avoid to get stuck with a bad partner. Sure that if the relation is great they will both commit. After all books/movies/stories are like that.

Act 2: The woman quality herself to you. She please you and she see you come back often for sex. After some time she really see that she performed well (lot of great sex and you come back) and so in her blue pill thinking it is obvious she was selected. The warning that you will not commit is no longer valid. It always was because you wanted to get rid of unsuitable girls. She isn't one so you'll commit.

Act 3: As the situation isn't evolving as "normal" and "expected" from her way to see the world. She start to have doubts and ask for commitment. You deny it. She now understand she has been played. All along she was sure you were a "normal" person that wanted to commit. All along the warning for no commitment wasn't to be taken literaly. There was an opportunity to get you.

From her point of view, you betrayed her, because you just don't have the same vision of the world, didn't communicate clearly. For her you didn't explain it clearly you where just after pussy and wanted to have a hole no more. For you it was clear, so you didnt lie from your point of view.

Even if the message was communicated, for her you didn't really expressed that you would do what you literary said. You didn't want to say that literaly. So you obviously lied on purpose, abused her and this is way she is so upset.

The same is true with beta men. They don't understand what women are really saying because they taint was is going on with their beta way of seeing the world. They have the wrong map and so don't get to the place they wanted to go.

SemperPrimus · 2019-07-16T16:46:19+00:00

"No hard feelings". Now imagine what shes like when shes mad lmao

Brodin69 · 2019-07-16T16:43:11+00:00

And thus an alpha widow was born. Chick seems a little crazy but great example there man. Keep up the good work.

jacques_cousteau007 · 2019-07-16T21:10:46+00:00

You have to be valuable before you are valued.

When are these girls gonna understand?

Just like in the job market, you are paid your worth.

High value men have the leverage to decide how much to “pay” a woman within the sexual marketplace, because a high value man’s resources (Scarce) are worth more than sex from a woman (abundant).

Assuming one is a a high value man, one should dole out resources (attention/time/money/exclusivity) accordingly:

Plate/FWB Only

Basic HB7-HB9’s that can offer the bare minimum of a cute face and a good-great body deserve a few hours a week of face time, but why spend $ on someone that has no LTR potential?

if you know it’s not going anywhere, just plate (no exclusivity, keep your options open) and exchange a bit of your attention as long as you both benefit.

Most importantly, we can’t be upset when a plate breaks.

LTR potential:

But even a HB5-HB7 with a little depth to their personality deserves a fair amount your attention and money investment (trips together, weekend getaways to bond).

The time/money investment is to see if she is deserving of your exclusivity, by being a submissive partner (captain/first mate) and having what it takes in a monogamous relationship (trustworthiness, bringing value to your life)

A HB9 with all of these features that has been vetted with time/attention/money/exclusivity, and has successfully displays what she can offer to your relationship, deserves the most valuable resource a high-value man can give: matrimony

Haha. Just kidding. Fuck that.

Don’t give away that shit to anyone

This isn’t the 1950’s.

Thotwrecker · 2019-07-17T05:53:43+00:00

The best thing in life you can learn from women is to never, ever argue. Don't argue with men, don't argue with women, only argue if you get paid to argue. This is a big part of why I only log onto reddit a couple times a month now. I enjoy arguing with yall, even the shitheads, it's probably residual leftovers of an academic background that I've otherwise cleansed myself of.

Women love to argue because they know the same secret kids know. While the argument rages on, they have your complete attention and emotional investment. You ever argue with a girl about something stupid (ie, her opinions on geo-political concerns, as though they fucking matter) and it turns heated and you're basically wanting to scream like "I'm not an asshole for not donating my money to a charity that funnels 19% of their income to Sudanese refugees, you don't value your own money because you didn't earn it, it's daddys money, so you know what, go fucking donate your daddys money and shut the fuck up about what I should do with mine"

Then you're pissed and thinking why the fuck does this bitch have so many obnoxious social opinions about stupid ass causes. God, why did you create the concept of a liberal arts education if all it does is turn perfectly fine women into creatures like this? Why does she needle me like this about stupid shit.

But really, she doesn't give a singular fuck. She just wanted to see you fully engaged and put your full (negative or positive) attention on HER and HER alone. When you argue, you are keyed in, you're striving with your full brainpower to connect with her and convince her of something.

It's all a fucking waste of time. Never take what women say seriously -- it's never worth arguing with them. Unless it's directly required by your profession, just give it a hard pass.

It's very simple. When your value is high, they don't argue. When they don't know what your value is, or they think your value is higher but within orbit, so realistically she could get you... then they argue. Don't argue, just demonstrate higher value.

bayareaengineer2019 · 2019-07-16T17:55:29+00:00

Thanks for sharing. This is exactly what happened to me at the end of last year. I had a good plate I met at a community college. It began by her seeking attention and validation from me and we moved on to sex. I told her in the beginning I wasn’t looking for a LTR and she agreed. After a couple of months she began shit testing me and was angry we didn’t end up in a LTR. She thought she could change my mind. Then came all the insults and saying I was deficient, blah blah blah. Thankfully I was still spinning two other plates at the time so it wasn’t a big deal.

Robster25 · 2019-07-16T17:49:28+00:00

This is why you spin plates. Once the conversation of wanting a relationship has surface she no longer is willing to play by your rules. By you double dipping again you only show that you are indeed of lesser value and care more about a piece of pussy than your self respect. Based on what how she tried to disrespect me in those messages, I would be a fool to go back to that even if she served the pussy on a silver platter.

I disagree on this one. If she talks about having a relationship with you and you tell her "no" and she comes back to keep fucking you, why would you drop her? In your case yes, definitely drop her. If a woman is insulting you or disrespecting you in any other way, you should be done with her.

huggyblossom · 2019-07-16T17:33:13+00:00

R u in for the pussy only ? LoL

Commitment comes when earned. The only thing she can do with sex ultimatum is learn that there are man that have options.

So sad that majority of women now feel like goddesses and when the truth hits them it hurts. Disney goes wrong on both ends of the spectrum.

SupremeBBC · 2019-07-16T21:20:49+00:00

"There no hard feelings here" after her walls of texts insulting your manhood is quite the ending

justgotalpha · 2019-07-16T23:51:45+00:00

Bro when she said “ if you were in my country with no doubt i wont let you go that easily” take that really serious!! im latino and trust me thats a death threat right there ! Be really careful with this bitch she could send someone after you just saying

[deleted] · 2019-07-16T17:29:38+00:00

Justification Hamster on display.

WilleZumLeben · 2019-07-17T15:19:40+00:00

There seems to be an awful lot of moralizing in the comments - otherwise why would people get upset that OP was using "nice guy" game? It really doesn't matter because: 1. The OP could be the nicest guy in the world and the most honest and upfront about his expectations, and 2. She would still get upset because she doesn't want a nice guy, or someone who loves her, but a solid commitment. Anything short of that and she feels cheated, because she doesn't value the positive experiences or the memories.

It speaks a lot to how women think and how men think that even on a forum like this there are men that defend women for their blatant sexual strategy. In fact, she isn't mad at the OP at all - she's mad at the world, just like the rest of you. So of course you identify with her.

There isn't a right or a wrong perspective here, it's just the world we live in. We all have certain expectations, and when reality doesn't live up to those expectations, we are disappointed.

nobody_thinks · 2019-07-16T20:09:03+00:00

For the non-incels reading this, OP is clearly a recovering nice guy with major anger issues.

Read her third text (I'm translating the gibberish out) : I never felt disgusted with myself before for kissing or for having sex with a man. With you I feel disgusting, I feel I need to wash my whole body from the inside out. You aren't shit. And I was like, "no he's really nice, he is different, but you are in fact who I feared you were, which is just a piece of shit like every other man (in this country). "Oh I am different" you said. Yeah right, you are different because you are worse and you ain't shit.

This is 100% classic Nice Guy Syndrome. Presented himself as a nice guy - she literally uses that word, tells her he is different, etc. Meanwhile it is all covert bullshit, two-faced.

Look I'm the last guy to take a woman's side but this shit is not how you spin plates. I've never had a woman tell me that she felt like she needed to wash herself from the inside out after being with me. If you get texts like this you seriously need to re-evaluate your life. I tend to agree with the woman that OP needs therapy. Bad enough to have this happen. Even worse to brag about it.

OrzhovPalatine · 2019-07-16T17:20:13+00:00

Added to the collection. Thanks for the field research

temerity18 · 2019-07-16T21:40:54+00:00

You did well OP. Dodged a bullet. Imagine being in a LTR with her. If you disobey her she will threaten you. Disgusting.

Imperator_Red · 2019-07-16T16:54:19+00:00

Wow she’s illiterate. Where do you guys find this fucking gutter trash.

Pokeylaw · 2019-07-16T17:39:51+00:00

WTF is this broken english in the text, I had to reread more than 1s

Nushuktan-Tulyiagby · 2019-07-17T03:30:36+00:00

The episodes of southpark are very informative. Where cartman gets a gf you see I shift in personality from living his own life (which is a pos mind you) to being woman's slave. They point our that woman are smart and funny multiple times. Its later revealed that the whole joke is to orchestrate that woman don't do anythi g out of the ordinary for you than a friend would. Your brain just wants the the tits and the ass from them. If you don't spin them they will spin you.

sniper1905 · 2019-07-17T05:56:43+00:00

This isn’t about why you should spin plates, this is all about maintaining frame, having an abundance mindset and never putting your dick in crazy.

Spinning plates isn’t relevant to the theme of this post. Maybe implicitly because it’s easy to have an abundance mindset if you spin plates, but that’s because the of themes.

Themes 1. Maintain Frame 2. Have an abundance mindset 3. Don’t put your dick in or around crazy bitches.

7GreatOne11 · 2019-07-18T02:45:00+00:00

Next time omit ultimatums/threats. Those power plays are void against creatures of chaos. ..8/10 post.

9966123 · 2019-07-19T15:17:03+00:00

I like how she blames you for abusing her and screwing her up.

Instead of you know... not being a thot and sleeping around with guys you are not in a relationship with. Combine that with "all the men are the same" and it gives you a good look at how her previous interactions have looked like. True AWALT.

zboo1h · 2019-07-19T18:17:30+00:00

Very interesting read. I love what you say about not going back even if they submit and apologize and etc the next day. I've definitely traded my self-respect for a piece of pussy and the irony was that the pussy no longer respected me, and why would she? You gotta come to that realization one way or another - what you want is paramount, everything else is nothing.

Patric_MasterBateman · 2019-07-20T05:01:15+00:00

"Please don't leave me"

hahaha nice touch

pacjax · 2019-07-16T19:07:37+00:00

not submitting to a womans frame gets me off.

when she inevitably comes back u can definitely fuck her again but you must make her submit. tell her she has to get on her knees and suck your dick before anything proceeds otherwise youll look weak

nobody_thinks · 2019-07-16T18:21:41+00:00

not sure why you are bragging about this. there is zero benefit for you.

Title	This Is Why Plates Are Spun.
Author	Wildside1911
Upvotes	136
Comments	110
Date	July 16, 2019 4:38 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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