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Women trying to seduce their friend's LTR... AWALT?

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September 16, 2019

My LTR's female best friend hung out with us this weekend. We all went out to dinner and a few bars then went back home and continued drinking. I definitely felt that there was sexual tension building. Caught my LTR's friend checking me out and looking down at my crotch several times, she started kino touching my chest or shoulder when I tell a joke or getting skin to skin making my hand touch her bare thigh when showing both of us her vacation photos on her phone. Hell, one time while my LTR was out of the room her friend, who was wearing a lowcut shirt, leaned into the table mid conversation with me to the point where I could see the entirety of her tits and stomach under her shirt... I definitely feel her friend was trying to flirt or seduce me right in front of my LTR... her best fucking friend... It wasn't overt, she never made verbal sexual comments or suggestions but all the physical nonverbal signs were there. I think the dread set in and my LTR definitely noticed because she fucked my brains out the moment her friend left the next day and has been overly serviceable to me ever since. This is especially fucked up because the friend herself is in a long-term relationship.

So my question is... are AWALT applicable for this? When I think back I can think of several of times when I had similar situations where a girl I was with would introduce me to their friend(s) and it's be ovcious they were making moves or trying to get attention. Do women like to try and catch the attention of and/or seduce their friend's boyfriends? Even their best friends???

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Title Women trying to seduce their friend's LTR... AWALT?
Author skizzum97
Upvotes 93
Comments 81
Date 16 September 2019 01:19 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]SergiuIlescu157 points158 points  (6 children) | Copy

Attention is any woman's currency

[–]Yggdrasil9310 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]jackandjill221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude I get tired of this bullshit sometimes. Something I've noticed is when women aren't involved with a situation there's drama exactly zero% of the time. Women are literally lightning rods for for confusing bullshit.

[–]AlleyFrog960 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Can you elaborate here?

[–]AstuteBlackMan5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women love nonsexual attention. The less you give the more they like you. Gotta give enough though for them to keep chasing

[–]IndiansSmellLikePoo2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Attention for women is sex like for men

[–]Senior Endorseddr_warlock40 points41 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dont change anything. This is how you keep women in line, subtle threat of competition. Dont acknowledge, play dumb.

[–]LordFa993 points94 points  (23 children) | Copy

A) They are actually frenemies

B) Hypergamy doesn't care

C) She's horny

If you a S tier player you probably could have both, if not pick one. If you value your LTR you better tell her before her friend's hamster creates some alternate reality where you seduced and ravished her at every opportunity

[–]skizzum97 1 points [recovered]  (19 children) | Copy

Part of me thinks all women are partly frenemies... They all seem to talk down about their friend's behind their back, bring up their worst stories, constantly compare their own life to theirs, etc. No matter how good the friend is, always hear the dirt and criticism about them lol.

And everyone was definitely horny and now that I think about it, the friend did say "don't tell me to kiss her, cuz I totally will" when I was taking their picture together. Damn, shoulda jumped on that one lol. Her and my LTR also started getting into the whole "why do all boys think all women are bisexual?" Bullshit... Do you think that was a missed opportunity?

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten49 points50 points  (16 children) | Copy

They're all gay from the waist up, and will eat pussy after a certain number of tequila shots

Female arousal is incredibly fluid. There is science to back this claim up. They hooked up some wetness detection to the labia. Women get wet from watching baboons fuck. Gay porn, straight porn, lesbian porn, it all gets them going

[–]MeganOlivi6915 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

From watching baboons fuck? What?

I'm torn between looking it up and having "women aroused from baboon sex" in my search history..

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

Here's the APA. Go dig into the study itself. It's amazing

[–]moltenw7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hey, do you perhaps remember - there was a really great article / link where the main premise was exploring women's arousal when it comes to violence , and the study essentially showed things like male vs male violence, male vs woman violence etc.

Almost all women lied saying that they didn't feel any arousal when asked, but all the results showed a completely different story, where the arousal was strongest at "Male vs Female" violence.

aka Hint - watch some violent scary movies to get things going.

I can't find it anywhere, if someone knows what I'm talking about, I'd really like to read that article again.

[–]skizzum97 1 points [recovered]  (9 children) | Copy

Hmm... I remember when we were all huddled close as my LTRs friend showed us her vacation photos on her phone. Friend started getting closer and her thighs starts grazing the back of my fingers/hand and stayed there. My LTR noticed what is happening and pulled me close to her... Definitely am starting to wonder if the friend wanted to escalate to a threesome or something

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten25 points26 points  (8 children) | Copy

Are you writing erotica or are you going to just fuck her.

[–]skizzum97 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

I'm just trying to make sense of this fucked up situation dude

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

You are answering a question I didn't ask. Let me fill you in.

I have an OLTR (that's an Open Long Term Relationship) with a bisexual girl. We fuck women together. I go on dates solo on the regular. If OLTR thinks she's hot, and the girl is down, they get to join the love triangle. If not, I just fuck them until I'm bored, usually in front of OLTR (it's a kink).

Compare this to your situation, where a girl is desperately trying to have sex with you and you're asking us what to do. The answer is pretty simple.

[–]skizzum97 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

My relationship is not open and my LTR has never expressed any bisexual tendencies or curiosity about threesomes. Also the friend is in an LTR herself... They aren't really comparable in that sense.

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

3rd party girl is testing her market value and you're buying hard.

[–]Hamster_S_Thompson0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe she was angling for a threesome?

[–]LordFa90 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Dude from the OP's reluctance to "Just Do It" you can tell he aint that kind of guy

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I try regardless.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can confirm this is 100% true.

[–]Krsna108-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Which science MiT uni in Afghanistan khekhekhekhe

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]rockyp320 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Damn bro next time if I were you would be to try to get them to makeout

[–]ThrowawayYAYAY20026 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy


[–]azoooz20123 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy


Super tier, I remember they used to rank champs in League of Legends like that, S tier for the best champs in current meta and then there's A-B-C-D-whatever tier

[–]Russian_Bot_7370 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Never played Fire Emblem?

[–]Truedemocracy524 points25 points  (5 children) | Copy

Her friends wanting to fuck you is probably making her ecstatic inside at a subconscious level. It reaffirms your high value as a partner. That type of dread works wonders

[–]skizzum97 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

Oh it definitely flipped a switch in her. Ever since that night she has been overly serviceable to me and horny as shit. Extra clingy and lovedovey. I think she realizes what was happening .

[–]Truedemocracy59 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

If you have a group of close friends all in LTRs and one breaks up with her gf then you’ll see similar behavior as well.

[–]skizzum97 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Is this reaction based on me being able to maintain our relationship longer than my friend was able to with his woman?

[–]Truedemocracy52 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, just a case study haha

[–]Dogdude330 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It’s always good to show you’re desired by other women if you hope to have a good ltr. It reminds them you’re high value, and you would also be ok if the relationship came to an end (which shows them the impact of ending the relationship for you will be minimal, and the only person that risks any loss in the event of a breakup is them). Not only should the ltr believe these things to be true, they should be true.

[–]bakamoney22 points23 points  (3 children) | Copy

Could have been an arranged seduction - shit test.

Test your faith into the ltr etc.

[–]thrwy7547913 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

High school, it never really ends.

[–]alleyteris7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hmm ive seen it to. Its incredible how many dumb things adult women do

[–]daymi2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's probably how the friend of her framed it, yes.

[–]Drew15011 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

when you are high enough SMV, AWALT.

[–]Endorsed ContributorNightwingTRP8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hypergamy doesn't care. I remember noticing this when I was out with a close friend and his girlfriend. Pleasant chats all night, then the second he leaves the two of us alone while he goes to the bathroom, first words out of her mouth "are you seeing anyone at the moment?" The moment you become a more attractive man, the shit women pull that they think is below the radar is hilarious.

[–]Ohertek6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh yes, personal experience

[–]Ohertek2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

My best mate since kindergarten , his gf always.flirting with me and sexual tension I am 6.1 and he is short

I just took distance, i had said nothing, but he believes i ditch him, where i believe they are blaming my gf for this. I believe his gf saying lies about me and my gf of how is her fault and that i should break up and if i was to tell the truth he might chose to not believe it, or ignore it to continue benefit from that relationship.

[–]OneTrueQ4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Red Pill advice would be thats a sure sign you’re doing the right thing. Just keep your integrity and take it as a sign your smv isn’t lacking 🤟🏾

[–]1redhawkes8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

No such a thing as a female friendship, only competition.

[–]thexrayluver2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Im in the same situation. Im half paranoid it’s a some sort of ltr test/trap, half think they are down to fuck but are waiting for me to make the first move.

They really are childish though, competing over something as irrelevant as attention. Fascinating to be honest.

[–]skizzum97 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Other girl is in an LTR also?

[–]thexrayluver3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yup two of her “friends” are in LTRs, another one is single. They all throw IOIs when we hangout. It’s hard but I try to keep my game tight. Sometimes I’m still reluctant to believe that Hypergamy is real but I see first hand all the time how apparent it is. It’s also crazy how many girls cheat on their so called “boyfriends” though. LTRs are tough but rewarding.

[–]RuleTheOne0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah this is interesting stuff. Recently, I saw Hypergamy with my own eyes at a High School Reunion. But get this, most of the people that were married or left their LTRs at home were fucking their HS crushes afterwards. Women got passed around by some of the guys there, then flew back home like nothing happened.

[–]Gnosiis_4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

When I was still bluepilled I had this one girl come over with a friend. My girl left to get drinks and her friend was literally trying to undo my pants the moment she left. I didn't want to fuck things up and her friend is all like "just forget about her!" When my girl got back I told her nothing happened. But her friend told her that we fucked when we didn't. I swear man hypergamy doesn't care.

[–]RuleTheOne1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wow that is insane. She still lied on her pussy anyway, Hypergamy is savage. We just have to find a way to make it work for us

[–]peter_pan42 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

A friendly smile and wink can be used to test the waters.

[–]alleyteris2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Its Preselection ,

[–]skizzum97 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah I know that's playing into it... but she has her own LTR at home lol. He's a beta SJW type though...

[–]alleyteris0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So what if she has her own LTR? Did that ever stoped women from cheating?

Hypergamy doesnt care

[–]Snowaey2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hypergamy is ruthless.

[–]flying-backflip2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This post is a pointless humblebrag, and is nothing more than "wOaH gUyS mY gf'S hOt fRiEnD tOtTalLy FlIrTeD lMaO"

[–]VigilantSmartbomb3 points4 points  (10 children) | Copy

All alternative is that your LTR has the hots for her friend, and wants you to fuck them both for her own reasons but doesn’t wanna come across that way so her friends leading the charge. Lesser so likely but still a possibility.

[–]skizzum97 1 points [recovered]  (9 children) | Copy

I doubt this is the case because there was a moment we all were huddled close and sexual tension was rising. Friend was leaning into me with her bare thigh touching the back of my hand, my LTR noticed this and pulled me in closer so friend and I were no longer touching... She also has been overly serviceable and hornet since thelat night. She definitely is feeling the dread I think

[–]VigilantSmartbomb2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

Your LTR is submitting hard. You’re now at the point. Do you seek more from a higher status girl? Do you keep your current girl and level out here with her? Or do you keep her around but stay true to yourself and fuck them both if that’s what you want to do?

Word of advice, everyone would have been more okay with the last one than the first one lol.

I cut my LTR off cold turkey and definitively should have just downgraded her to a plate or something. She’d likely still be around, and after the initial sadness probably still be happy with it

Never burn bridges, just make them pay a toll or lift it once in a while lmao

[–]skizzum97 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy

I like my LTR, she completely satisfies me right now. I do think her friend is attractive, but would never LTR a girl like her because she has lots of red flags. I would like to keep my LTR for now but I wouldn't mind a threesome with her friend if that is possible.

[–]VigilantSmartbomb2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

She’s pretty scared of losing you, is she still doing everything her role asks of her? As long as you’re both growing I don’t see any downside but I’d get her to stop mate guarding somehow lol- u want her to be submissive when you want her to be, not necessarily pulling you back from other girls lol you doing what you want is gonna make her want you more anyways. Id really sit and question whether or not you can get everything you currently get from your LTR but in a more casual relationship, and if so, you owe it to you both to stay true so you can find a better suite

[–]skizzum97 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

How would you suggest that I get her to stop mate guarding? I like everything about our relationship, I actually like that she is so submissive to me and dreading right now. Means I'm doing something right. I just would like to see her eat pussy while I take her to pound town lol

[–]Onein1024th3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

I think VigilantSmartbomb is looking at this all wrong. Read the 12 steps of dread from BluePillProfessor.

You've got her right where you want her. Social proof is making her work hard to keep you happy; you've got her right where you want her.

So long as you want this LTR; this is how you want to keep your LTR running... with her submissivley seeking to keep you around.

[–]skizzum97 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

What's your take on this specific situation?

[–]RuleTheOne0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Red Pill Teachings right here!

[–]ThrowawayYAYAY20020 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


OP, use your head and get yourself a threesome out of this.

[–]unhappyforsocks2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

They wanted a threesome. Your LTR fucked your brains out due to the fact she was making up for the empty spot that her friend wasn't there. Mission failed you'll get em next time.

[–]skizzum97 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Funny you say that.... I actually recall some interesting comments from that night that were related to threesomes... I took a picture of them together and the friend said "good thing you didn't tell us to kiss, cuz I totally would have" to which I responded " dang... You wouldn't be the first girl who tried to kiss her, and I wouldn't blame you for trying shes gorgeous. " Then my LTR and her had a short discussion about how both of their guys think all women are bisexual and want an FFM threesome, insisting that it's just a male fantasy... My LTR has always been against the idea and said she couldn't share me so I didn't push the topic any further here and probably didn't see the signs if that's what they were... Also there was a moment we all were huddled up close as the friend was showing us videos on her phone. Friend got so close her bare thigh was resting on the back of my hand and fingers. Sexual tension was definitely rising but my LTR sensed it and pulled me in close so her friend was no longer touching me... Lot of mixed signals from my LTR and if she was down for it idk why she would've pulled me in at the perfect opportunity for us to jump in.

[–]unhappyforsocks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

damn that friend is nuts. Maybe one day you two will get the opportunity. If shes thought about it, it'll probably take some time for it to happen and for her to get comfortable with it.

[–]HastaPronto901 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, they are not all like that, she is just a slut.

[–]boy_named_su0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

My ex fiancee's sister showed me her tits at Christmas

[–]skizzum97 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

Like this? Or straight up flash?

[–]boy_named_su2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

She was standing about 15 feet in front of me, and just casually lifted her t-shirt up, exposing her big cans. No bra. Just me and her in the house

[–]skizzum97 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

What a sloot

[–]boy_named_su1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

she was a stripper, so it fits. My ex was an innocent school teacher type tho. Strange family

[–]Foolishoe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"Best friend" is really just a label used to gain a certain level of access into another person's reality.

You should certainly have that friend over more often, seems like an effective tool for you.

Always be nice to those women, it is important for your LTR's / FWB's / Plates to all recognize this is normal and acceptable behavior. You aren't being rude in any way you are just being a man engaging with the world naturally.

We should all be so lucky to have women that desire us regardless of our 'status'

[–]Endorsed ContributorFereallyRed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Girl gets drunk and flirty.

Gets the attention she seeks.

You are the attention giving thirsty beta she wisely chose.

OMG...You actually saw her boobies when she bent over!!!!

That's all that happened.

Stop that shit. Fuck her or stop jerking off to her. Those are your options.

[–]Jesusfeminist-3 points-2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Uhh they are obviously testing you together to see if you are gonna cheat, idiot. Can’t believe all these dumbass answers

[–]skizzum97 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

No man alive hasn't experienced this same phenomenon with an LTR and their friends... It's common as fuck

[–]Truedemocracy53 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol no, this is definitely not the correct answer

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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