If one musT marry/LTR, do so with a woman who is 1 to 2 notches below your SMV.

2014-12-25T01:17:55+00:00

Time works to do this same thing. I have been married ten years and my SMV is flat to up. Hers headed to the bottom right corner of the graph. Doesn't matter how high she WAS

RedPillSafe · 2014-12-25T01:33:59+00:00

If you want to be happy for the rest of your life /

Never make a pretty woman your wife

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NF5XU-k2Vk

When you're in love with a beautiful woman you watch your friends

When you're in love with a beautiful woman it never ends

You know that is crazy and you wanna trust her

Then somebody hangs up when you answer the phone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gutSCU4-3Q

Iupvoteforknowledge · 2014-12-25T01:17:21+00:00

Honestly I don't think this strategy will be viable any longer. Tinder gives her access to guys 5 notches above her smv. Women can't tell the difference between fuck value and LTR value. It probably won't last. She herself will think she's 3 notches above her real value. The smp is all messed up. You are now literally against all men in your nation. She can access the hottest guys in NY , LA, etc. Long distance fuckships. This stuff didn't exist back in the cavenam tribal era. We are worse off than our cavemen ancestors in that sense. Its like women being courted by rival tribe members in addition to your own tribe.

2014-12-25T03:11:24+00:00

You're giving your future offspring worse genetics.

Just go to a developing country and you can find 7s/8s who are interested (if you must get married).

2014-12-25T08:01:33+00:00

Internet sex culture means this is bullshit advice, If you want a woman that wont cheat on you the only answer is a girl that defines her sexuality around you. A virgin is the only woman worth wifing, they have the lowest divorce rate. at one partner her divorce rate is 48% and 0 partners her divorce rate maxes out at 11% I'd bet most of that 11% are the men they marry.

You can't turn a ho into a housewife; don't even try.

2014-12-25T05:11:47+00:00

How would one accurately 'rank' their SMV?

vengefully_yours · 2014-12-25T05:44:17+00:00

It can still get fucked up because all her friends will support her making bad choices, she will see the astroturf over the fence, and no matter how alpha, dominant, or simply awesome you are, she can see something in a guy far below you and fuck it up.

They are shitty judges of character and value, so it only takes the appearance of higher value to get her trying out for the Olympic high jump. The fucked up thing is how much of her family and friends will support shitty behavior like that.

AlphaXpipubs · 2014-12-25T07:37:45+00:00

The key is to see yourself above all women.

getomc · 2014-12-25T02:48:45+00:00

Don't date down, date stupid AKA young and naive, then drag her ass out to a farm and kill all your fancy tech toys..

2014-12-25T03:20:11+00:00

Marriage has lots of benefits, but in the legal system of most modern societies makes it a bad deal for most men.

Do what ever you can to stack the deck in your favor because the deck will be stacked against you, the husband.

2014-12-25T21:32:46+00:00

This is usually the case for married couples who don't end in divorce. Women who are lower on the physical attraction scale are usually a bit more humble and less self-obsessed than the more "hot" women.

So if you want a hot girl for an LTR, be aware that there's a lot of work involved. You have to be a master social manipulator. The men I know with smoking hot wives/girlfriends who don't cheat on them are men with a lot of power. Other guys don't dare to make a move because they know it will result in some severe violence, possibly death or lifelong disfigurement. Most of the guys I know in this situation are top-tier thugs/drug dealers.

One of my old friends is in a gang (I don't hangout with them anymore for obvious reasons/working on getting my life together). He said to me one time that the only reason why his girlfriend doesn't cheat on him is cause she knows what he'll do to the guy. This guy also cheats on his girlfriend whenever he feels like it. Fucked some girl at a party one time while his girlfriend was in the other room not even 20 feet away.

blandboringusername · 2014-12-25T22:53:29+00:00

I had a LTR with a fattie many years ago ("small fat"?). I was fit then and now. She was more than ten years younger and made about half what I did. So I guess I was her romcon dream guy.

Meh. How often do you want to hook up with a fattie? Even if she's a sexual submissive who will do pretty much anything you want and she treats you well, it gets old. Broke it off.

The number one characteristic that bumps otherwise 7s and 8s way down low on the SMV scale is body fat. Average guys could hook up at least once a week without much effort or game if all the fatties on Tinder were transformed overnight to 125 lb average girls.

Well, help may be on the way. I'm not even kidding. Shit is working. They just give 'em a shot once a week and the weight drops off. A lot of weight. The company's stock is blowing up this week, so investors are convinced at least.

Pertinent to OP's post, imagine marrying a 125 lb cutie and you're pratically guaranteed that's what she will weigh her whole life, even if she has kids? If we had better financial protections, marriage 3.0(?) might start to look good again.

2014-12-25T23:06:14+00:00

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LibertarianLibertine · 2014-12-26T00:53:27+00:00

Could you write a post of traits that will increase the likelihood she's loyal? I think a while ago there was a list of redflags, but I don't remember seeing one of green flags.

2014-12-25T02:04:58+00:00

Got to agree with Kill_Your_Ego...

And it does not matter... it's just a terrible gamble. I tried this same idea with my last LTR... 3-4 points below me if not more.

Escalating shit tests and associated nonsense just like every other relationship I have tried.

DON'T GET MARRIED.

Clicks_Anything · 2014-12-25T01:51:41+00:00

I gotta say I appreciate this post. Just hearing someone on here admit that you can do this is refreshing.

huge_gap · 2014-12-25T20:33:47+00:00

Stopped reading your opinion after "encarnate."

TheLolomancer · 2014-12-25T20:39:07+00:00

This is not only unnecessary, but ineffective. It does not matter what her, or your SMV is. If she wants to cheat, she will find a way to do so. I guarantee it. The point is to get in her head. 'Convert' her, essentially. Obviously, you're not going to devote the necessary resources to a random broad, but we're talking LTR-potential here, so you're going to need to pull out the power tools.

With RP we are taught to fit the mold of the dominant alpha and she will automatically bend. Most girls have no idea that they're doing this and, as such, will never realize what's happening. So you rip off that blue pill like a band-aid and bombard her with RP. Lead by example, make your judgement known, and bring it up again when what you knew would happen becomes reality. Her friends are perfect subjects for this. She may fight it at first, the same way she fights any of her other hypocritical tendencies when you point them out, but more often than not she will learn to accept, and eventually enjoy it. Granted, a lot of girls don't get to that point. The thrashing can sometimes become so self-destructive that they never go beyond that stage. Do not let that hurt you; it just means she's too far hard-wired into BP. It happens. Let it go. Damaged goods, fish in the sea, whatever. It's harder to wash your hands of a failed LTR than it is a failed fling, I get it, but it needs to happen. And you need to be strong enough to do it, or you just end up wallowing in your failure. Rinse and repeat. Nobody wins every hand.

2014-12-25T04:43:10+00:00

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Kill_Your_Ego · 2014-12-25T01:58:37+00:00

DO NOT FUCKING GET MARRIED.

Jesus christ dude. How long have you been accepting reality?

Do not ever get married. You never have to get married. Do you have to go lock yourself into a prison where you gain nothing?

Fuck this is TRP. Stop with the marriage bullshit already.

Do not ever get married. END OF STORY.

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Shaft-of-Patriarchy · 2014-12-25T12:57:00+00:00

She won't leave you for a 9?

Maybe. Depends if any 9 finds her good enough in bed to string along long enough for her to think he's a viable swing.

Of course he won't stick around, we all know that, but can she hamster it that he might? Enough to leave you and hope you'll take her back if it doesn't work out. Oh yes.

And that's not even considering the fact that just because she doesn't leave you doesn't mean she won't be getting dick on the side. And it doesn't mean those kids who call you daddy have any genetic connection to you whatsoever.

AWALT. Even the 5s

Siex · 2014-12-25T04:10:59+00:00

Tl;dr

Date ugly chick, men with high smv will never go for your cave troll.

Maybe a good advice for some, however I could never do it... Affiliating yourself for life to an ugly woman would lower my SMV. That's just my opinion, but in order to keep my social status and to keep the women in my life feeling like they must "compete" is important to me

juanqunt · 2014-12-25T04:27:28+00:00

This is retarded... I'd rather just not marry rather than wasting my genes on some unworthy cunt. If I ever have children, the mother will have the best of the best genes. If you aim for anything lower than that, you've accepted your role as a beta.

By definition, biologically success means passing on your genes as much as possible. Impregnating only one low quality female is a terrible investment strategy. Best strategy is to impregnate as many as possible under false names overseas, so that they can't trace back to you. But if you have to marry, then pick the best one you can.

Red pill doesn't mean that you have to have 100% security. It means that you've assessed your risks and hedged them as well as you can. High risk = high reward. There's no point keeping around a low value cunt just for the sake of her view you like a god and unable to provide you with anything else.

I don't mind a whore leaving me if it means she bore sons for me who will be come the alphas of the next generation... better than having the whore stay loyal to me and give me retarded beta children.

Overall, I would not marry in the first place. Women's value decline over time, so it's already a bad investment from the start... but if you have to, pick one who starts out with highish value and has a very slow rate of decay.

Title	If one musT marry/LTR, do so with a woman who is 1 to 2 notches below your SMV.
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Date	December 25, 2014 12:56 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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