[Q4All] According to your Pill, what kind of discrimination do female writers face?

winndixie · 2016-12-20T07:54:33+00:00

Saying female writers face discrimination is victimizing to gain pity by borrowing another word associated with racism. It's like saying but Asian writers face discrimination. Shitty writers also face discrimination. The obstacles are the same and so is the solution: be so good they can't ignore you.

I don't know shit about book industry. Men names are seen as more reliable historically in most aspects of life. Not saying it's right or wrong, it's a fact. And it's beginning to change. You got JK Rowling who started a new wave of female writers. And if it changes either way, no skin off my back. It's a moot point.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2016-12-20T06:47:35+00:00

My two favorite books in the world were written by women before "women's liberation" and continue to be best sellers year over year until this day for generations, gone with the wind and Atlas shrugged. Both feature strong interesting female characters who take the bull by the horns in a "man's world". Both books and their authors are reviled by feminists despite their female authorship. Go figure.

For the most part female writers suck and write worthless drivel only "young adults" can stomach because they don't know any better.

No one has a right to be published, so it's not "discrimination". Let all the big strong feminist woman business dynamos open publishing houses to publish women who get "discriminated" against if they think that's what's happening. Most men will never read books written by women, this is just reality, so they will always be somewhat niche and less lucrative on the whole despite a few successes here and there

DarkLord0chinChin · 2016-12-20T08:23:34+00:00

Because women do indeed tend to write all-feels little-action books. Just like TV shows where people do nothing but talk and cause drama, such books are aimed towards female audiences.

I don't see the problem with this. Women are not men

wombatinaburrow · 2016-12-20T08:35:05+00:00

I'm published under a male derivative of my given name; and no publisher in my area (it's a male centric industry) would consider publishing a book of that genre under a non male name. One of my girlfriends writes sci fi under a male derivative of her name, although sci fi is becoming less hostile to women.

YetAnotherCommenter · 2016-12-20T06:14:03+00:00

From what I know, publishing is a female-dominated industry and books are mostly female-read these days, so if female authors are discriminated against its not because of market forces.

I've never seen female readers hesitate to read female authors. If the "ewwww, girls book!" thing exists on the part of male readers, it is probably because we're dealing with very young males during the "girls have germs!" stage.

So I'm wondering if you are implicitly looking specifically at YA/Teen-targeted action fiction here (Potter, Hunger Games etc). Because if we shift to another YA/Teen-targeted genre like, say, Paranormal Romance, the authors are generally very much women and use feminine names.

It might be that some editors presume that any book with either action or a young male character at its center is automatically a "boys book" which in turn means the editor presumes the audience is gynophobic.

But if we move to 'artistic' literary fiction I don't see the kind of gender divide you seem to think exists. But I'm not a massive reader so I'm not sure.

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Electra_Cute · 2016-12-20T06:48:59+00:00

Publishers are more likely to take a woman seriously if they publish under a male name. There is still a plenty of female authors despite this.

[deleted] · 2016-12-20T07:24:46+00:00

Someone who thinks a book can have too many "feels" probably shouldn't be trusted when it comes to literature.

prodigy2throw · 2016-12-20T16:06:02+00:00

If women use initials instead of their first name, won't people just go on to assume any author with initials as their first name is a woman?

sse23 · 2016-12-20T10:39:08+00:00

Honestly I never thought of this as a problem. I love the Harry Potter books, everybody knew it was a women who wrote them. Lot's of writers both men and female use psedonyms. J.R.R. Tolkien? No I think writers are judged by their skill. You are seeing an issue where there is none. Writing a good story is pretty fucking difficult. Go ahead and try yourself. Most likely the scripts being turned down is because they are bad. We all have an imagination and stories we fantasise about, but putting those down in an exciting and interesting read is not for everyone.

kick6 · 2016-12-20T14:58:24+00:00

The publishing industry is OVERWHELMINGLY female. At this point, readers are OVERWHELMINGLY female. If women face any kind of discrimination, it sure as shit isn't sexism...

Maybe they, on the whole, write shitty books?

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