Does No Always Mean No?

ehwut · 2016-02-13T00:47:59+00:00

Is it better to receive angry texts from someone who didn't mean, "No," or to wear handcuffs and have your life fall apart?

Anybody who says, "No," when they mean, "Yes," is probably too immature for a sexual relationship anyway. Sex risks pregnancy, and a person who can not be responsible about consequences nor considerate of somebody else's risks would probably be a terrible parent.

Do you really want to go through a custody and child support case with somebody who asks you to risk imprisonment for their brief sexual thrill?

Paraplegic_Dolphin · 2016-02-13T01:53:35+00:00

Yes, no always means no. Even if it doesn't, treat it as if it does. Then when she texts you after a few days of no contact asking what happened you can be all snobby and passive aggressive and say shit like "Well, you said you didn't want to."

gainzndamez · 2016-02-13T03:41:56+00:00

You don't have to ask researchers, ask men who've fucked women. Sometimes No means No. Sometimes No means Not Now. Sometimes No means Yes But I Don't Want To Feel Like A Slut So I'll Say No With My Words And Yes With Everything Else.

dr_warlock · 2016-02-13T01:50:53+00:00

Women say "no" mostly for the following reasons (All women do this)

Shit test. She wants to know if a man takes what he wants and doesn't let a small girl scare him off
Plausible deniability,she doesn't really mean it and will allow it right after. "I said no. I tried! So i'm not a slut". In her mind, its now your fault. It 'just happened'. (ASD/Anti-slut defense)
Wants more foreplay, then you can try again.
She's playing games. In this case, just leave. She'll likely contact you again and not play games next time.

When "no" means no sex, it's usually clear because it's coupled with the discontinuing of intimate contact. And if she wasn't clear, that's her fault. Women have agency. If women don't want sex, attempt to push the male away and say "no, i mean it". It's not hard at all. Most men don't have problems identifying the real deal. Feminists, sjws, and the government just exaggerate and lie for personal gain and attention.

It's best to just establish a safe-word with more than one syllable and is inappropriate for the situation i.e. "Lamb blood". That way there's never any confusion and no killing of the mood. This will also allow the female to say no and resist, and you overpower her 'against her will', thus satisfying fantasy. If you hear the safe-word, all intimate contact stops for 24hrs.

RoidLovinMassMonster · 2016-02-13T01:21:18+00:00

I feel like this is a change in communication styles between generations.

There was a time when women would go completely cold if you tried to ask permission.

I have been with women who used the word "no" in complex and subtle ways. Part of the fun was joking, flirting, playing with each other, kind of verbal sparring. It never seemed difficult to tell a serious "no" from a playful one.

Now it seems like this has become an archaic practice, and while I suppose I'll adapt, I can't help feeling that it's overkill to say everything has to stop at the first spoken "no."

I blame texting and the Internet. People aren't as good as they used to be at face-to-face communication. So much gets lost these days. People are very quick to assume bad intentions.

I think that if we're going to have this rule about "no," we need to be comfortable introducing consent forms to the bedroom. I'll start asking my partners to sign a contract before we can get started. Won't that be hot?

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Title	Does No Always Mean No?
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Date	February 13, 2016 12:28 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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