Reality check: Americans, is this kind of a bachelor lifestyle in regards to social life and women actually achievable for an adult male or is it just some sort of a Hollywood fantasy?

GridReXX · 2016-01-24T12:22:53+00:00

You want cool and awesome male friends. Well work on being cool chill and awesome.

You want cool and hot women in your social network. Well work on being cool and hot.

You want energetic and social people ? Work on attracting those people.

It isn't rocket science.

If you're still nerdy mcnerd after you graduate college, nothing is going to change.

OfSpock · 2016-01-24T08:40:41+00:00

Why would a hot friendly guy who knows lot of hot girls invite you to his party? If you were the type of person they want at their parties, you'd be capable of throwing your own parties that hot, fun, awesome, cool people attend.

[deleted] · 2016-01-24T10:28:47+00:00

My years from 23-30 were by far the best years of my life (then I got a gf).. I was never a big drinker, so that wasn't really a goal of mine.. If life long drinking is your goal you should get new goals.

I did however date girls of all ages. Didn't have class to worry about. Made good money so unlike college I was able to do and buy whatever I wanted..

Idk why everyone acts like college was so fantastic?? I guess the new generation doesn't work their way through college.. My last two years of college was spent working and doing schoolwork.

Juge-Penitent · 2016-01-24T08:56:54+00:00

I think that sexuality in America, more than anything else, is a commodity. It is subject to the same dialectical materialism as any other form of capital. I'd even go so far as to argue that the only reason the Red Pill/Blue Pill debate exists is because we're at odds as to how the means of sex production should be distributed.

If you are willing to invest yourself (and also your money) in certain areas of American culture which promise an increase in the likelihood of acquiring sex, of course it's going to be realistically achievable. Once you start to acquire sex-capital, you get that air of confidence Red Pillers strive for and you continue to use it to acquire more and more and more. You're now the industrial-bourgeois capitalist of sexuality.

It's no wonder that Blue Pillers are most often Marxists, because they find themselves to be pushed into an exploited class of undersexed people, whether they have toxic forms of sex, impotent forms of sex, or simply no sex at all. They're living under the impression that this is realistically achievable, but once the upper class of people acquire sex-capital (that is to say, once they become alphas), it simply can't trickle down to everyone else. The belief in their superiority is too rigid to have any profit move beyond themelves. Thus, to a Blue Piller, it is the Hollywood fantasy.

By using this Marxist model, it should be pretty clear I don't agree with Red Pillers and how they manipulate the market of sexuality to get sex beyond what is reasonable. However, Blue Pillers annoy me almost as much as Red Pillers because they still operate under the principle that this commodity is not only something everyone should have the capability to acquire and redistribute, this commodity is something that is deserved. Sex-positivity is especially dangerous, because current images of sexual excess (which the Red Pill has created) has become the dollar bill - the fiat currency in which belief in the inherent value of sexual excess is measured. Sex-positivity takes Red Pill theory of sex-capital and flip it on its ass without altering the values on which it is based.

We certainly can't change the value back to theological attitudes, or even on love itself. Neither of the two last very long in this messed up place. This has led me to become a bit of an nihilist on the subject. Sexuality is over-rated and meaningless, and far too many people pay far too much attention (and money) to it instead of things that actually matter - like art, science, language, and all those other things that actually make you cool.

wtknight · 2016-01-24T14:01:15+00:00

Every city in this country has multiple bars that are pretty much only meat markets for young people. If you're not hot enough to get tinder matches just go to those bars and hang out and talk to women and you're bound to pick up someone eventually. I'm not sure why some guys think this is so hard. I'm a nerdy guy of average height and I can think of many times when I was out with friends at bars when I was in my 20's that I could have easily picked up women if I had wanted to.

man0man · 2016-01-24T16:01:38+00:00

This guy again.

betterdeadthanbeta · 2016-01-24T13:48:11+00:00

Is this realistically achievable or is it just some sort of a Hollywood fantasy?

Sure, but you need to be either extremely wealthy, extremely attractive, or extremely well connected. In college, its relatively straightforward to get into a social group that includes young hot females. They're all around you. Out in the real world you're going to have to get out there, bust your hump and build up a network. Better do it fast before you get to be a post wall male hag, tho.

I like GLO's cheat codes for this. Go be a yoga instructor, band member, DJ, etc. Find an automatic 'in' and be part of the hottest social scene you can find.

Shadow_on_the_Heath · 2016-01-24T08:27:35+00:00

If you live your life by letting others dictate what's possible or not, you're never going to get anywhere that you want.

and to answer your question, of course it's possible. it's ridiculous to think that there's no one in the world that could achieve it.

the question you're asking is - "can i do it?" and from the way you've framed the post, i'd put my money on no. you're the type of guy who wasn't fun, never learned to be fun, and can't understand how other people can be so irresponsible as to have fun. the combination of unfounded arrogance (read as: superiority complex) and judgmental attitude are unattractive.

edit: it's pretty sad to see how many people here are hurt by words. the fact of the matter is OP emphasizes his preferences for academics as if it were noble. truth of the matter is that both are possible - just not for op because of the way he goes about life.

alreadyredschool · 2016-01-24T09:08:56+00:00

Yes, but only if you are an extro.

cxj · 2016-01-24T09:09:37+00:00

I don't think banging sorority chicks is all that likely outside of being a college frat bro but you can Def bang early 20s girls via all sorts of lifestyles that involve partying. IMO being a Dj in the bay area and generally in on the EDM scene will yield better results than the vast majority of frat Bros will get. It's not like frats are pure chads, there's probably like 1 to 2 per house. I personally know dudes in their mid 30s banging early 20s chicks via the dj route. All the ones i know spent their 20s in Rock bands. Being in a touring band can yield well too even if your band is not well known.

IMO the major key to banging girls way younger is to be genuinely involved in social circles that they are a part of. This is somewhat overlooked by trp from what I've seen.

rulenumber303 · 2016-01-24T17:49:14+00:00

As guys, some of us would actually love to enjoy a situation where we have a group of cool guy friends that throw amazing parties where other social and energetic people arrive, hot girls come, and we all have a wild night.

Someone has to do the work for this and spend the money. In adult life that someone/s will have expectations of you, you won't be going more than once or twice unless you "put out" so to speak. You need to be good value both to your host and your host's other guests in some active and obvious way.

No free ride for grownups, college was the last of what you got that was even remotely approaching being the free ride that kids get. It may have not seemed like a free ride but in college even those who have to pay all their fees are still benefiting from a highly subsidised resource rich environment designed for people who are still being nurtured.

So how are you going to be of the right sort of value to the right people? Pro-tip... the right people have better people than you to fix their computer.

SpaceWhiskey · 2016-01-24T08:50:13+00:00

I mean, if you're suuuper wealthy you can throw parties and invite hot girls, sure. Well you can throw parties whenever you want really but the odds are hot girls showing up are way higher if you're incredibly wealthy. But don't get mad when they drink all your alcohol and leave without fucking you.

Equilibriun · 2016-01-24T08:54:51+00:00

Yes to all. Just takes time to build. You could literally party every night if you wanted to.

Yes an older guy in this 30s can bag 20 year olds

[deleted] · 2016-01-24T11:03:50+00:00

I don't buy it either, and the false promises will just lead to long-term disappointment.

You shouldn't have such shallow goals.

That said, I know many guys and gals who have that lifestyle up until their late 20s early 30s, and I live in a conservative state.

bsibsisbs · 2016-01-24T15:57:34+00:00

Is this realistically achievable or is it just some sort of a Hollywood fantasy?

If you 're the boring ass fucktard working a cubicle job it's gonna be hard.

You 're fun, interesting, attractive, social, make good bank, it's easy.

No fun doesn't stop in college. College just puts fun really in your face. So if you fail with fun in your face, then odds are unless you figure out how to stop being a loser, you 'll fail even harder post college.

macksdowntownsong · 2016-01-24T17:36:22+00:00

So I will ask the question to all of you whether you're red pill, blue pill, or purple pill. If an adult male bachelor in the United States wanted to live a lifestyle that consisted of:

Of course. They're called Rugby socials. I tried inviting the TRPers to one last summer but they all had better things to do.

Is this realistically achievable or is it just some sort of a Hollywood fantasy?

Absolutely achievable.

Unless you don't count body painting topless women as 'realistic'.

we just have circumstances right now in life which make it tough for us to really take advantage of the party and hookup culture of our college years.

What 'circumstances' are preventing you from having a social life? GDIs partied just as much, if not more than the Frats.

difficult academic majors take up our time

This is a horse shit excuse. And I say that as a BSME that graduated with a 3.5. You're prioritizing your life wrong if you don't have time to socialize.

cateml · 2016-01-24T18:25:15+00:00

I'm not American and have never lived in the US, but I think for the most part worldwide - TV and films make life look a lot more fun and glamourous than it actually is at all levels and stages.

American High School movies (and in the UK stuff like Skins) show school as some big party central with a 'cool group' who has fun non stop. The truth is that I've never met anyone whose school experience was like that - for the most part being a kid is a lot of hanging around doing little or studying. Maybe you'll go to the odd party and the odd person will get wasted and you'll do some drugs, but they're never as banging as the ones on TV.

I'd say same with college, but I know with the whole Greek thing american college is kind of different. Here, people just tend to form a group of friends, go out and get drunk a lot, sometimes fuck a couple of them.

And same with adult life. Most people are too busy working to be going out to parties all the time, or don't have enough money. Unless you're in some sort of 'scene' (such as a city arts scene) generally you'll have a small-ish social circle with people who will go out partying very occasionally and if they don't have a partner, not get laid that much. If you hang around parties with loads of 20 year olds, you'll look like a weirdo and they'll all make fun of you. I'm 30 and I live on a university campus - a lot of my social circle are my age and work pastorally with students and are around students a lot. And even the good looking, studly, sporty guys - the students think they're weird old people. Maybe the students will kid around about fucking the fit ones, but they're always kind of seen as a joke if they try and hang around with the 20 year olds. 20 year old women look down on other 20 year old women who fuck 30 somethings, even good looking ones. I mean, fine if people are doing what they want and they're happy, personally I don't care. But socially it's not something people will respect either of you for.

In real life - people don't party all that much, don't have that much sex, don't look that attractive, are kind of boring. If you're lucky you'll make a few good friends that you get on well and can do things with, have a few good times amongst the monotony, get a job you can stand and maybe meet someone who you love and like living with. A lot of people don't even get that.

Hollywood - and all TV and film in all countries - is about attractive people partying and having lots of sex because that is what people like to watch.

4benny2lava0 · 2016-01-24T18:38:21+00:00

Its totally attainable. Work make money and party.

Its one thing to throw parties, if you want that kind of partying your place needs to be the party spot, people need to know your house is the place to be on a specific night and when your parties gain notoriety people want to bring other cool (and not cool) people along.

macksdowntownsong · 2016-01-24T17:50:46+00:00

I think threads like this are beautiful because they show just how out of touch with the real world a lot of people actually are, these threads let you call them out on it.

About OP not wanting the lifestyle in college and it being so easy to achieve.

Not true at all, this is nonsense. The nerds in college want that life just as bad as everyone else does, problem is that it is reserved for a select few. You better have at least parents that are willing to help pay your fraternity dues, be in a fraternity or on a sports team, and you better have a lot of time available. Most people do it their freshman year when they have easy classes and a lot of free time on their hands. Even then, you better belong to the RIGHT social group which is often going to be full of snobby Greek Life kids that are very picky about who they let in.

About living that life out of college.

"Just lift and BE MOAR ALPHA BRUH!"

Get the fuck out of here dipshit! This is not TRP where you can spread all the bullshit vague lies about being a 30 year old and fucking top tier sorority sisters. You have to give us way more than that. You can be the most alpha and extroverted guy with six pack abs and top tier looks on the planet, that isn't going to get you that kind of life if you do not know the right people and if you don't run in the correct social circles. Finding the right social circles and knowing the right people requires lots of experience with being in the right location, getting the right gigs, and working the right jobs. Good luck doing that while you work in finance, medicine, or any other well paying job.

lauren_collins · 2016-01-24T15:44:19+00:00

if you look young, i'd recommend just lying about your age. a lot of younger girls won't go to a party if they know its gonna be thrown by a 30 year old, they'll assume its filled with other guys in their 30's, and thats offputting. try to pass yourself off as 25.

Title	Reality check: Americans, is this kind of a bachelor lifestyle in regards to social life and women actually achievable for an adult male or is it just some sort of a Hollywood fantasy?
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Date	January 24, 2016 8:06 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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