What aspects and traits of the "alpha male" are women attracted to?

Fuschia19 · 2015-07-10T18:41:59+00:00

or do you think the alpha male doesnt exist, or that women arent attracted to them?...

[–]cats_or_get_outRPW (=^‥^=)9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Without realizing it, I married an alpha. He's done five combat tours, lifts (gotta carry injured men back), is disciplined in the three Fs (food, fitness, finances).

What separates him from the rest, however, is that he has bearing. He doesn't whine and complain (unmanly behavior); he doesn't eschew responsibility ever--ever. He uses cool, dispassionate reason all the time. He OODA loops the hell out of every decision.

He's not overtly aggressive or out to get into a fight. He has nothing to prove. This is huge for me in the hotness.

I showed him The Red Pill to get his opinion on it. He looked it over and sort of went "meh." He does, however, embody many of its ideas. When I read about "maintaining the frame," I was like, yep, that's him 100%.

I think it would be hard for me connect with another man because he sets the bar so goddamn high for himself. His integrity and self-discipline is unmatched. Integrity (and the security it offers me) is sexy as hell. It also inspires me to meet his level of integrity.

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Well, I met him when he was 17. He was this very skinny dude (120ish lbs), average height. Until war in 2003, he had a super laid back persona.

In college, I saw him almost every day (dorm, circle of friends), but we didn't like each other much--we merely tolerated the others' presence. I was an ambitious go-getter, and he wasn't going to classes, spent his days skating through the city, etc.

I was the obnoxious feminist who was always railing on about on some injustice or another, and he was just a total adolescent. (I'm still a feminist, but I've made peace with the injustices of the world. Maybe I'm an evolved feminist or a post-feminist, who knows)

He dropped out of school. He came back for a party a year and a half later, and wow, what a difference! He stood straight up (no more slouchy McStoner). He was smiling a real, genuinely happy smile. The sullen pouty moody adolescent face was gone. His eyes were shining. They were sparkling. He was genuinely happy to see me and I him.

I had my own transformation--I had joined the swim team, started lifting, started running. No longer did I look like a cancer ward victim. I looked "healthy and womanly" (his words). We were smitten immediately. That was in 1999.

What I'm trying to say in my womanly, circuitous way, is that it isn't a body type. The physical change happens, but it starts on the inside.

I started by refocusing my angst at the injustice of the universe on dropping my time in swimming. Shit, I was too tired after a workout to get preachy about anything. I got some perspective on shit. My change, my maturity, made me more pleasant to be around.

The same was true for him. He got rid of that angsty nonsense and was happy with himself and his place in the world. In short, we became adults--baby, beginner adults, but we had finally put down the playthings of childhood (poutiness, feelings of entitlement, etc)

[–]skippingelephant0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

My head hurts too much to argue this point right now but basically:

You were poor, then became well off - probably the result of coincidence and then started crapping on about "entitlement" like some drunk Republican.

You're also shallow. You didn't want each other until you underwent physical transformations and then made up a whole bunch of other reasons as to why you love each other. There is nothing wrong with this either. Most people are attracted entirely to looks and fit everything else around that. For example, the sexy female scientist is "so pretty and smart". While the non pretty female scientists is just another female scientist.

You gave up your feminist crusade for the love of the D. So instead of fighting against gender stereotypes you become a soldiers wife with babies. In that regard you did grow up. Feminists are tiresome and immature.

FYI :

"He was this very skinny dude (120ish lbs), average height."

That is an athletic build. Believe it or not. American sports are just weird and call for giants, most sports don't. The military doesn't.

You put muscle on that frame and you've got a strong bodied fast moving animal, big guys usually aren't that quick.

"Until war in 2003, he had a super laid back persona..."

None of that means he wasn't athletic, aggressive or alpha to start with. He quit and joined the military and didn't stay in class and get good grades like a good little girl. Very alpha traits from the start.

[–]cats_or_get_outRPW (=^‥^=)0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Just a heads up:

*Marine. He's not a pussy about it, but some Lance Coolly Fuckface will want to start a bar fight with you if you call him a soldier.

I'm still a feminist. I approach it differently than I have in the past. Instead writing "Subvert the patriarchy" on my Chuck Taylors, I use feminism as a way to analyze things (books, movies, interactions, etc.) just as I would with other philosophical and critical theories.

I hate to use the term feminist because it's often a label used by people who spout off with a bunch of -isms and emotional bullshit without any intellectual rigor to back it up. I feel like Michael Bolton in Office Space "It was a perfectly good name until that no talent ass clown started winning Grammys." Well, fuck it. I'm older than these bitches, so I'm keeping my term.

[–]skippingelephant0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"*Marine. He's not a pussy about it, but some Lance Coolly Fuckface will want to start a bar fight with you if you call him a soldier."

Not sure what this adds to the conversation. If he starts fights in bars with random large dudes then he is an idiot. Because people are getting bigger and stronger now and one punch can kill.

"I'm still a feminist. "

How can you be a feminist ? A feminist is an evil person who hates men and hates children. A feminist is a spoiled brat, who refuses to play her part in the world and refuses to accept things the way that they are.

Feminists hate everything that is good and free about society and want to create a new society where everyone plays a role according to what they want them to do without any freewill. All because they're jealous that they don't have a penis.

Women need to understand that if you are not an alpha man then having a penis actually puts you on a lower social standing than the majority of young women. Then the women become old and ugly and the men have a slightly higher social standing. Inside the female brain that logic will never work because they have an utter disregard for the welfare of men who are not alpha. It is like you women are wired to not give a shit about men.

Therefore according to feminist there is only one type of man, those successful powerful ones and all the normal blokes working blue collar jobs for almost no money don't even factor into the equation. Even though someone has to be in that roll, it is literally impossible for all men to be alpha.

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i don't think it's a positive thing to strive for and i likely wouldn't want to be around/with someone who did.

Let's say that you were married, and one day, your daughter is hit by a drunk driver, which fractures her skull and requires her to be immediately airlifted to the hospital to save her life. You, are utterly devastated, you simply cannot believe what is unfolding through your eyes and are stricken with fear. Wouldn't you feel more secure if your partner stayed in a calm, collected manner, was able to give all the information needed to the paramedics/doctors, drive you safely to the hospital to see your daughter, and reassure you that your going to get through this together?

Or would you prefer your partner to also succumb to they're emotions and be unable to function or think straight in a situation like that?

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Let's say that you were married, and one day, your daughter is hit by a drunk driver, which fractures her skull and requires her to be immediately airlifted to the hospital to save her life.

well, this is a pretty rare occurrence, and obviously not what i was talking about; there wasn't any indication that we were discussing reactions in a life-changing tragedy, so i was referring to normal, everyday behavior. i mean, really, who would assume we were talking about a situation like that?

Wouldn't you feel more secure if your partner stayed in a calm, collected manner, was able to give all the information needed to the paramedics/doctors, drive you safely to the hospital to see your daughter, and reassure you that your going to get through this together? Or would you prefer your partner to also succumb to they're emotions and be unable to function or think straight in a situation like that?

well, if paramedics and law enforcement etc. are on scene, i assume they would be just as able to transport us to where we need to be. they're trained for emergency situations, after all. relaying important information (which, in the moment, seems like it would only need to be medical) would be important, but otherwise, this sounds like a pretty bizarre reaction for either partner to have.

our child was just horribly injured in front of us and is potentially on the verge of death, and he's patting me on the back telling me 'everything will be okay'? no. no, i wouldn't feel reassured by that. it wouldn't be weird for us to try and comfort each other after the initial shock had passed, but that sounds different from what you described.

i think even people who tend to be stoic naturally would be shaken by that situation, and if not, i'd question why they aren't more moved. it would be unnatural for even a less expressive person to remain either calm or collected under those circumstances.

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So you think it's a good quality in a man to be scared, frightened, and curl up into a ball when a tragic situation presents itself?

i believe it's a natural, human quality. that is a normal response.

Sorry, but your logic makes no sense whatsoever. People who succumb to their emotions in challenges are those who lose. Doctors don't become doctors by succumbing to a fear of blood or gore. Lawyers don't become lawyers by being emotional during a case. The biggest movie stars in the world didn't become what they are today by succumbing to their emotions when they failed. There is no benefit to drowning in emotions in a negative circumstance.

you disagreeing is not the same as my explanation not making sense. doctors and lawyers undergo extensive training to ensure they are qualified and fit for their positions, and those that aren't fall out of the running one way or another. movie stars succumb to their emotions all the time, typically in negative, newsworthy ways, but it's hardly fair to compare hollywood to the world outside of it. they're different.

it's atypical for a person to experience a tragedy and suppress or not feel emotion. i would find that to be a strange and concerning quality in a partner.

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Title	What aspects and traits of the "alpha male" are women attracted to?
Author	Fuschia19
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Comments	80
Date	July 10, 2015 6:41 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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