We see movements like the MGTOW growing but this kind of mindset is nothing new really , look at Schopenhauer. He lived in the 19th century and he was a RedPiller and an anti-marriage MGTOW .

According to TRP , women are naturally submissive , but I'm somehow doubt that's the case. Women always try to have some control over their men . How can women be naturally submissive and also naturally manipulative and deceptive ? How did movements like feminism become so influential if women are truly naturally submissive? It seems to me that women are not naturally submissive because they always used manipulative tactics to control men and get what they want. Even "RedPill" conservative women usually get what they want in their marriage because of manipulative tactics and I say this as someone who was raised in a conservative society.

Religion worked for centuries. It forced some roles on men and women and it was successful . Religion controlled people but it created stable families. Now that religion is weakened , the family unit is weakened too. People don't feel obligated to remain virgins until marriage or even to get married at all. Marriage will eventually become obsolete because for most people it can't work without religion.

Men and women will always struggle to control one another. Even if feminism eventually dies , it wouldn't be surprising if another form of "feminism" appeared after some centuries. It seems to me that men and women can't truly get along because of their natures.

The MGTOWs say that feminism only revealed the true nature of women Maybe they're right. Maybe women indeed reveal their true nature now that they're free of the heavy religious influence . Maybe the rational choice for men is to be MGTOWs because of the female nature.

What does it mean and what are the solutions ? If men and women can't get along then the only solution seems to be gender segregation. I discussed this here . To me it actually seems like a good idea.