To everyone: unicorns and ideal ltr traits

Dip_the_Dog · 2014-10-13T08:06:56+00:00

What is the bear minimum you look for in a woman in an ltr?

Personally I like 0 bears in a woman. I hear Tormund Giantsbane is into that kind of thing though.

McCaber · 2014-10-13T05:12:51+00:00

1 - Someone I can talk to and who can keep up with me while doing so.

2 - Musical tastes. Music for me is a big part of my life, and I love when someone I love can talk with me about the things I like.

3 - The biggest one is a sense of humor that meshes with mine. If we can spend a date making endless chains of puns about sea creatures or sports teams, I'll give her a 10 out of 10.

4 - N/A

5 - For me, not so much as the person underneath them. Bodies are all pretty much the same, whereas minds are the cool part of a human.

6 - A girl I can play D&D with is the one I'd marry. (Source: my wife)

7 - Not in the least. If they share the same viewpoints as me, who gives a fuck what color or how rich they are?

8 - I'm a (theologically) conservative Lutheran myself. It's a big enough part of my identity that I couldn't see myself with someone who didn't agree with me on this, at least in part.

9 - Again, don't give a fuck. The rest of the woman is who I'm caring about, not just her hymen. I was a virgin when I met my wife, she wasn't. We made it work just fine.

Skratt · 2014-10-13T04:46:09+00:00

Where is everyone? XD

an_absolute_rose · 2014-10-13T05:32:28+00:00

I guess I'll answer before I go to bed.

What is the bear minimum you look for in a woman in an ltr?

Fit, feminine, pleasant.

What makes a woman exceed your expectations immensely in an ltr?

Intelligence.

What in your mind in the "perfect woman" for an ltr?

Somebody who I enjoying going out and sharing my interests with.

For TRPers: do unicorns exist? If they don't, then what fictional characteristics would make a woman a unicorn?

No. Unicorns in theory are perfect, and nobody is perfect. Unicorns are the last remnants of Disney bull shit red pillers hang on to.

How much do looks matter?

I'd probably weigh them at 50%... but as some other red pillers I use the binary scale for LTR. If she's what I consider fuckable then I'm willing to forgive imperfections. For example if she's smart and cute but a tad flat it's not a deal breaker. Then again bad hygiene us a deal breaker as is bad teeth.

Does race matter to you? Upbringing?

Not really. I'm white. My parents are a bit racist, but I don't exactly seek their approval. I'm not really into black girls or Asians, but if she's hot she's hot. One of the ladies I'm interested in right now is a light skinned black girl.

How do you feel about hyper-religious girls? The hellfire and Jesus type since they will typically confirm to what a red piller would seem to like?

Probably my biggest crush is a petite highly religious and highly intelligent girl. I'm not really looking for LTR right now and we have moved in opposite directions so we would never work out but if I met another girl like her I'd definitely be open to committing. I'm not at all religious, but I respect those who commit to religion.

Do you want virgins?

I actually haven't been with a virgin yet so I'd like to try it, but ultimately I'm only looking for a girl who only gives it up for guys she gets in long term relationships with.

fiat_lux_ · 2014-10-13T07:07:30+00:00

1) What is the bear minimum you look for in a woman in an ltr?

I can't imagine ursine traits to be attractive.

2) What makes a woman exceed your expectations immensely in an ltr?

Absolute adoration.

3) What in your mind in the "perfect woman" for an ltr?

One who could easily have had any other man in the world, but chose me instead.

4) For TRPers: do unicorns exist? If they don't, then what fictional characteristics would make a woman a unicorn?

Depends on the exact definition and standards. If we're talking about it as an absolute, an "ideal", then no. Ideals don't exist. They're just a direction or model to aspire to.

If you're just talking about a "good enough for 95% of men", then of course. But they're generally not going to be ones that try to change me with their words.

5) How much do looks matter?

A lot. But most people are able to overcome their problems by releasing their inhibitions. E.g. a man stops worrying about being shallow and starts learning how to socialize properly in a way that's attractive (i.e. game). A woman may just need to stop worrying about being shallow or attracting shallow men..., and just start using makeup. Most of us are shallow to some degree anyway.

6) What hobbies and interests do you like in a girl?

I have a fairly strong beta attributes, so I generally don't mind picking up other people's hobbies quickly, mastering them, and genuinely enjoying them.

Far more important to me is my ability to find or establish my own hobbies and interests, and being able to assert those.

7) Does race matter to you? Upbringing?

They matter like everything else. I wouldn't reject an individual for any particular attribute on its own, but to say something as significant as someone's race and upbringing aren't significant influences on that person is just delusional.

8) How do you feel about hyper-religious girls? The hellfire and Jesus type since they will typically confirm to what a red piller would seem to like?

I wouldn't mind so long as she's a hypocrite in the sense that she doesn't oppress me with that shit.

I'm pretty tolerant of most religions, but honestly the whole idea of strict religiousness clashes with a lot of romantic ideals. E.g. The willingness of someone to actually walk through hellfire with you.

9) Do you want virgins?

There's going to be different reasons for why a woman could be a virgin. She could be a virgin because she is simply very clever, disciplined, and resistant to manipulation. She could be a virgin because she's batshit insane. It's simply one of many attributes to take into consideration, but not using a boolean or even linear model.

boscoist · 2014-10-13T17:16:40+00:00

at least 8ft tall on hind legs, 300lbs+, razor sharp claws and a particular talent for catching salmon. /s
BJs. They are a huge indication that person is interested and wants to please you.
no.
no.
alot.
as long as they are present, TV does not count.
Culture is important.
I'm an atheist, their views are utterly incompatible with mine. I tried once, but she wanted to go find a religious clone of me so theres that..
meh. I don't much care, low count is preferred because there is a huge difference as to how excited and interested/interesting they are.

[deleted] · 2014-10-13T08:23:01+00:00

Someone that I can have a genuine connection with whom I am also at least somewhat attracted to
If they can keep up with me on a mental/emotional level, and if they have my taste in music
I don't think there is a "perfect woman". Perfect for me is just someone whom I mesh well with on that level
N/A
They matter a little. As long as I am attracted to them, I am cool, but my standard isn't unreasonable or anything, so it's fine.
Well, I like someone who appreciates good food. Then of course similar taste in music and movies. I'm not too worried about this stuff though
It really doesn't matter much for race. As for upbringing, well, it correlates, but I don't think it matters that much either. As long as she shows me that she is a genuine person whom I can trust, I am cool
I couldn't date someone who is hyper-religious. I just don't think they would appreciate some things about me (super traditional people wouldn't dig my music taste), and our values wouldn't be similar, since mine are a bizarre mix.
I don't care as long as her values on sex are similar to mine and she shows me that I can trust her.

[deleted] · 2014-10-13T07:02:02+00:00

What is the bear minimum you look for in a woman in an ltr?

A woman who has had less than 4 sexual partners, who is physically attractive, has a good disposition, and who prefers not to date outside of her race. Being reasonably intelligent would be nice too.

What makes a woman exceed your expectations immensely in an ltr?

She's smart, she's accomplished or talented in some way, she goes out of her way to please me.

What in your mind in the "perfect woman" for an ltr?

I don't believe in perfect, but any woman who fits what I've described above comes close enough for me.

For TRPers: do unicorns exist? If they don't, then what fictional characteristics would make a woman a unicorn?

No. Unshakeable loyalty would make a unicorn.

How much do looks matter?

A lot for me.

What hobbies and interests do you like in a girl?

I don't expect a woman to have the same interests as me but if she likes movies, comedy, and reading that would be enough.

Does race matter to you? Upbringing?

Both matter to me. I want my kids to resemble me so having children with someone outside of my race is out of the question. She should also have these same values.

How do you feel about hyper-religious girls? The hellfire and Jesus type since they will typically confirm to what a red piller would seem to like?

Even though I'm agnostic I've often thought about whether I'd be willing to assume the role of religious patriarch if I found a woman who fit my above qualifications who was extremely religious. I might be willing to do it.

Do you want virgins?

It's preferred but perhaps not totally realistic.

[deleted] · 2014-10-13T08:43:36+00:00

Look hot and scramble me some eggs and we're off to see the damn Wizard, that's what I say.

For real, it's 100% about what my magnetism can draw in as well as how good my PUA skills are. Both areas can never be improved enough. First step is ya gotta get a candidate all up in your grille. From there you see how she is in bed and see how the chemistry is in as many areas of life as you can. And you gotta keep her from systematically ruining the shit out of your life. And she has to be cool with you preventing her from ruining your life. Most women get really pissy if they recognize you're not letting them interfere and get in the way.

Let's face it, most of us are AFC's and not skilled PUA's. Whatever "list of prerequisites" we come up with has to be damn flexible.

InformalCriticism · 2014-10-13T09:21:18+00:00

Shorter than me. Healthy body weight. Not disfigured. Uses what education she has; smart enough to use information/skills learned. Respects, communicates, and considers others. Enjoys sex.
Exceptionally considerate, open-minded and honest conversation, and a healthy taste for simple pleasures, or is low maintenance.
Perfect ones have all those things, but in richness and abundance all the time. Beautiful, right-sized natural girly bits, isn't afraid of life, wants things out of life and communicates them, honest (I don't expect women to be honest, but you did ask us to dream). I could go on, but it's already an impossible woman.
Probably not. Principled honesty, fearlessness, unconditional romantic love, complete understanding.
It's one of the few ways to gauge someone's health and pedigree, so fairly important.
Athletic interests or at least some kind of regular and disciplined physical activity. I have been surprised to find how much more interesting females are who read in their free time.
I don't know if race really matters to me, though I have not dated outside my genetic index; I have no reason to believe it is racially motivated, I've just not found anyone interesting outside of my side of the gene pool.
I am always suspicious of the kool-aid drinking religious. I don't have anything against the faithful, but it is a strong indicator of incredible insecurity, fearful, and obstinate types.
I've never seen the difference, so I can't say.

adrixshadow · 2014-10-13T10:05:40+00:00

1 - Do not be fat or at least willing to burn the fat off, do not be tumblrite level dumb.

2 - Having any worth outside of sex. In other words a will, a hobby, a passion, principles, character, intelligence. Being a rhetoric spewing feminist or a "career woman" does not make you one(although a career woman might have character and not all feminists are bad).

3 - A perfect woman is something that I train towards, so along as she is able to be trained she will eventually be perfect.

4 - What a pointless question. Every woman has inherent qualities and qualities you can train in. It's pointless to fantasize about perfection arising from this shithole of a society. Get a base and start polishing.

5 - If you are going to bother youth and beauty is a plus, even bigger plus if her mother ages well. But not primary, I could live with more average looking if she has value from points I made in 2.

6 - Any hobbies that have value, by which I mean quality can be recognized or the hobby can be improved. In other words no mainstream shit. If you are going to say you like music or TV it better not be common shit or reality TV. If you play the violin I'll give you triple plus.

7 - Do not like black women aesthetically(racist!). I might clash with many cultures.

8 - Hate Christian women, they should all burn in hell. Muslim girls I feel I can break their beliefs. Hindus I hate the cast system. Buddhists I hate the Buddha. New Agers I have mixed feelings since I am a occultist myself but they are generally naive.

9 - I am confident I can train a super slut, even though they don't have that many good traits. So as long as they are not disease ridden I am fine with it.

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[deleted] · 2014-10-13T18:02:18+00:00

What is the bear minimum you look for in a woman in an ltr?

Compatibility, both in general personality and sexuality. And of course our personalities have to click.

What makes a woman exceed your expectations immensely in an ltr?

This is cheesy as fuck but everything my current girlfriend does. I like to have a Dom/sub dynamic in my relationships and my girlfriend is like the perfect submissive.

What in your mind in the "perfect woman" for an ltr?

Again, my girlfriend is closest I've ever found and she's what comes to mind, very submissive as well as pretty, cute, fun to be with, and very intelligent and mature.

For TRPers: do unicorns exist? If they don't, then what fictional characteristics would make a woman a unicorn?

Not an RPer but if a unicorn is meant to be a perfect girl then, well, I don't think any human being is ever perfect, but I do believe people can have a very high level of compatibility which makes them perfect for each other. I've already talked about the characteristics.

How much do looks matter?

Looks are pretty important, you need to be physically attracted to a girl if you're dating, let alone if you're having a full on long term relationship.

What hobbies and interests do you like in a girl?

I don't really mind much. I have found that matching hobbies don't matter nearly as much as compatible personality types. So I don't really care as long as there are things we can do together.

Does race matter to you? Upbringing?

Nah.

How do you feel about hyper-religious girls? The hellfire and Jesus type since they will typically confirm to what a red piller would seem to like?

Can't stand strongly religious people at all. Not hating on all religious people... but anyone who can be described as "hyper-religious"... fuck no.

Do you want virgins?

Not really, I want experience.

soylentblueissmurfs · 2014-10-13T20:41:20+00:00

I don't want a LTR
???
Intelligent, mature, adventurous, someone who can push me to be better rather than drag me down
I don't believe in unicorns. I believe feeling like someone is a unicorn is real though and something our brain does on purpose to make us commit.
If I ever do commit she has to be beautiful.
I like when she has her own thing. For some reason I find people who dance salsa very boring.
If we're going to have kids they should at least have a chance to turn out hot. Luckily half white half something else usually works out well.
I can't respect someone involved with religion.
No, I think if a girl is a virgin past her high school years she either has some weird hang-up/personality flaw or just a deep lack of curiosity.

StabbyPants · 2014-10-13T23:40:25+00:00

the whole point of unicorns is that, while they exist, they're so rare that they may as well not exist. they're certainly not someone you should plan on finding ever.

[deleted] · 2014-10-14T07:04:00+00:00

What is the ~~bear~~ bare minimum you look for in a woman in an ltr?

Intelligence, independence, similar hobbies and good character.

What makes a woman exceed your expectations immensely in an ltr?

All of the above plus being low maintenance.

What in your mind in the "perfect woman" for an ltr?

My perfect woman would be an asexual female who is all of the above, which is very unlikely

How much do looks matter?

Not very high on my list of priorities, but it would be nice to have.

What hobbies and interests do you like in a girl?

Similar interests so reading and some occasional gaming with an artistic pursuit on the side.

Someone who I can LoL with, sing with, grouch about animation woes and then bounce essay ideas from Utopia would be the best thing ever but that would be too greedy so.

Does race matter to you? Upbringing?

Nope. Preferably with a good upbringing but I acknowledge that a good upbringing does not guarantee a good person.

How do you feel about hyper-religious girls? The hellfire and Jesus type since they will typically confirm to what a red piller would seem to like?

Please no.

Do you want virgins?

Does not matter to me.

We_Are_Legion · 2014-10-14T12:54:26+00:00

I'll pretend I am on a blank slate for this reply.

What is the bare* (FTFY :) minimum you look for in a woman in an ltr?

Sexual and personal compatibility. Feminine. Cute, rather than hot. Smart, witty. And a pleasant disposition(I don't want someone who drags me down with her though this isn't a deal-breaker).

What makes a woman exceed your expectations immensely in an ltr?

Nymphomaniac. A person who finds joy in giving.

What in your mind in the "perfect woman" for an ltr?

All of the above, + virgin(or low count).

For TRPers: do unicorns exist? If they don't, then what fictional characteristics would make a woman a unicorn?

No. Unconditional romantic love.

How much do looks matter?

She shouldn't be ugly. I have had one of the best relationships of my life with a plain-faced average girl. The amount of attention and caring she put towards pleasing me and trying to make me happy just about made me melt. Mostly with love, but sometimes with guilt(because I felt I didn't deserve it). Making her feel beautiful and loved was always rewarding because that was her nature. She was made of gratitude. And the sex was actually amazing.

That said, poor boobs are a deal-breaker. So is being over-weight. The former because I like breasts, and the latter because it speaks of you as a person. Underweight is included too.

What hobbies and interests do you like in a girl?

As anyone else, I'm biased towards ones that match mine. But as long as its not feminism.

Does race matter to you? Upbringing?

I don't mind much. I've been attracted to european girls, middle eastern girls and asian girls(like asian girls best though). I even got seduced by this hot pakistani chick once. Never did a black girl. If I was single, would be willing to amend.

As for upbringing, even if she's from a bad background, as long as she makes up for it by NOT being like that background, I don't mind.

How do you feel about hyper-religious girls? The hellfire and Jesus type since they will typically confirm to what a red piller would seem to like?

Do not like. But will not reject. And please don't assume I can't find a girl to conform to what I like. Or make her.

Do you want virgins?

Why not? Virgin isn't shorthand for great personality though. She should have a reason to be a virgin. i.e. wanting to commit to a serious partner who she loves.

crankypants15 · 2014-10-14T18:07:55+00:00

What is the bear minimum you look for in a woman in an ltr?

Have good communication, even temperament, self-knowledge, not be too irrational on a daily basis (I get that hormones play a part in this), good with money, is for equality, can help me out with stuff outside, doesn't mind getting her hands dirty, is a "giver", understands the importance of sex.

What makes a woman exceed your expectations immensely in an ltr?

My expectations are already pretty high for my generation. If she meets that, that's damn good.

What in your mind in the "perfect woman" for an ltr?

I already listed that above.

For TRPers: do unicorns exist? If they don't, then what fictional characteristics would make a woman a unicorn?

How much do looks matter?

You will have many problems in a relationship and looks solve none of them. Good communication helps a lot.

What hobbies and interests do you like in a girl?

We should have a few common interests, and a few things we do apart.

Does race matter to you? Upbringing?

Race is often closely tied to culture, and culture means a lot. I don't want someone with a culture of blaming someone else for their own problems.

How do you feel about hyper-religious girls? The hellfire and Jesus type since they will typically confirm to what a red piller would seem to like?

IME very religious girls have extremely unrealistic views of relationships, don't know a thing about psychology or relationships, and are a very poor risk. They are often shielded from reality by their parents and, in general, are incompatible with me. See /r/deadbedrooms. Lots of people there on the cusp of divorce because they married as virgins.

Do you want virgins?

It doesn't matter. Sex is one of the top 3 reasons couples break up. She should know herself sexually.

RedPill4LYF · 2014-10-13T05:05:54+00:00

Low to moderate previous partner count. My attraction to her. Her attraction to me. Sexual and personal compatibility.
Virginity primarily.
There is no perfect and I do not pretend that there is. See No. 1.
No. Female nature is real, and some women are more mindful of it than others. A unicorn is the impossible Madonna hoar.
A lot, but they're not everything.
Similar interests, and anything that has nothing to do with being an attention whore.
No, and kinda, but not really. It's who they are as a person that matters. Where they come from isn't of much importance to me. All women have the potential to be good partners depending on the choices they make in this life.
Many are fake, some are not. I respect the ones who aren't.
Yes, but I am not unrealistic with my expectations.

Reginleifer · 2014-10-13T05:39:45+00:00

Not a slutbag, 5< partners for marriage material 10< for LTR. If she has a sextape/nudes she's corrupted goods and must wear a paper bag whenever we have sex. A pleasant disposition I don't need to come home from dealing with assholes to another major bitch a home is a place of relaxing. She has to be able to communicate her desires, emotions in a more or less direct way..... I have no skill or desire at playing the game of charades. You want the pipes fixed? You got it. All you had to do was ask nicely.
To exceed a woman must be practical, frugal, and reasonable. It's one thing to acquiesce, it is another to understand, and actively work towards a goal with your SO.
O-Lan from The Good Earth Fuck you Wang Lung you no good piece of shit. >.< Except for the part where she kills her second daughter she is nearly the perfect wife model. But hey it was China, it's only been a few years since they realized that daughters are not for killing.
If they exist outside of literature and animu, I haven't met one yet. I've met plenty of ho-bags and entitled women, plenty of those.
Unlike most of RP which does place a heavy emphasis on banging that 7-10/10 looks aren't that important for me, then again I ain't no looker myself so there might be a bit of bias here. Personally a woman's attitude and actions leave more of an impression to me than their looks. No fedora though.
~~Is fellatio a hobby?~~ Eh I'd dig a girl who likes to read, or is into computers..... but I don't think for the sake of a healthy relationship video games would be an acceptable hobby..... two people with VG addiction is what gets you on the news for bad parenting. Sorry babe I need you on the outside to pull me out of grinding mode.
~~Fuck yes I'm more racist than a Grand Wizard~~ Eh no, unless we talking about Black women..... I attribute certain masculine personalities to them (Inb4 massive SJWshitstorm, we ALL do, don't fucking play preacher with me you hipster) . Sorry ladies no strong black women who don't need no man for me. :/ That being said, proven wrong on the personality I could see myself potentially being attracted and falling for a black woman.

and white women, I also have some conceptions about them that usually have me judging them. Personally I prefer white for a casual fling, because of their relative nuclear family structure and their weaker sense of family ties, I don't have to get involved with crazy relatives usually. (I should know, I am the person with the crazy involved family).

my own race.....way too messy to get too closely involved with all that family. After breakup it's like you've been tagged through out the community, like it or not you're going to find out everything about your ex, like when he's taking a bath or buying eggs.

"I saw that cabron buying eggs mija, with some floozy no less

Mom, that's his sister!

ok I judge hard. :(

Depends, I'm not into evangelical protestant types....... protestants are degeneracy.... like vegans or anti baby seal clubbers. Those are your hellfire and Jesus types, but a nice Catholic girl, or one of those tiny protestant congregations where the girls wear long skirts, or even -shudders- an orthodox are ok.
More than ISIS itself.

Title	To everyone: unicorns and ideal ltr traits
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Date	October 13, 2014 4:11 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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