BPers and PPers who are NOT feminists, what are your views specifically?

drok007 · 2014-04-17T01:10:15+00:00

I agree with the basic idea of TRP - that the genders are different and this is an interesting concept to discuss and an important thing to keep in mind when you're trying to relate to the opposite gender.

However what I disagree with is the extremes to which TRP takes this. Instead of having intelligent conversations they push their specific agenda on people, which is essentially radical feminism in reverse. Which I think is a shame, because if it was more rational and less radical and feels based, it could be a community for genuine interesting discussion like this place is.

I am certainly not a feminist however. I think a lot of modern day Western feminism can basically be summed up as "first world problems." Crying "oppression" because some toys are marketed at boys and others are marketed at girls and enabling con artists like Anita Sarkeesian. And all this while there are actually countries in the world where women still face genuine oppression - yet you will never see these feminists discuss those issues, because they don't effect them personally. So I am an egalitarian but I would not call myself a feminist because I don't want to be associated with that crap.

Aerobus · 2014-04-18T01:16:09+00:00

Women deserve equality of opportunity. They deserve the same civil rights and civil liberties as men. That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Women's and men's brains are wired differently. They will be unequal in some regards. The law should mitigate this effect by ensuring the equality I described above.

There are some things women may never be 'equal' in with regards to men, and there are some things men may never be 'equal' in with regards to women, and both of these scenarios are OK. It's ok for STEM to be male-dominated, and its ok for nursing to be female dominating. Neither of these scenarios mean a gender is being oppressed (cough feminism cough).

Seeing as TBP is a satire of TRP, I completely disagree with TBP, and support maybe 75% of TRP.

My views are based equally on my past and my current life.

sh1v · 2014-04-17T06:59:39+00:00

As a rper looking in on this thread, it kind of confirms my suspicion that all blue pillers are feminists of one stripe or another. Some fairly radical, others simple egalitarians who'd like to think feminism is less radical than it is.

GridReXX · 2014-04-16T21:56:55+00:00

I think you're assuming that all women who aren't "feminists" advocate for a "traditional" western marriage. Some do. Some don't.

alphabetmod · 2014-04-16T23:22:23+00:00

The question probably has to be narrowed a bit in order to have a decent discussion.

3g0syst3m · 2014-04-19T01:19:41+00:00

I suppose that as long as everyone going into the relationship knows what is happening it's fine. I am for equal standards across the board as in when going into the army you should have a basic standard that should be adhered to, you don't make it you don't get to go into it.

I wouldn't be in the position that I am in if it wasn't for feminism. But I hate what's happening with children with divorces. But that's due to personal reasons as I look at it from the child's point of view not the adults and I don't really care about the mother/father and who is getting what. To me it doesn't matter, the children's mental and physical health does.

jacks1000 · 2014-04-16T21:53:39+00:00

TBP poses as a "satire" of TRP, thus they stand for nothing but being anti-red pill.

The reality is, most TBP are social liberals, third wave pro-sex feminists, anti-virgin, anti-traditional marriage, with a surprisingly high number of self-identified "kinksters."

They pretend they are neutral, simply opposed to TRP, so they can attempt to make TRP justify themselves to them. They are the critics, and TRP are supposed to defend their ideas to them.

TRP just ignored TBP, so TBPers created this sub - PPD - to sucker various TRPers into engaging with them. So the idea is that TBP say: TRP is sexist racist misogynist neckbeard losers who are emotional abusive and hate women.

Prove you're not!

Totally_not_a_shill · 2014-04-17T02:15:43+00:00

To me, TRPers seems like the male equivalent of radfems. Lot's of stereotyping, sexism, extreme views, etc. Radfems are too progressive and TRPers are too regressive.

Title	BPers and PPers who are NOT feminists, what are your views specifically?
Author	drok007
Upvotes	6
Comments	41
Date	April 16, 2014 9:01 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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