This is kind of a dumb question, so I apologize but I am curious. Why isn't the RedPill more...well...fun?

username_6916 · 2014-02-17T09:39:25+00:00

Selection Bias.

Those people who are happy with their lives, happy with how dating and courtship are working, happy with their role in a relationship generally don't go out seeking advice on those matters. You only go seeking such things if you are already angry or disillusioned with the way things are going for you. Hence, most people who are not dire and are not angry do not seek out anything related to the "Red Pill".

happyhorse_g · 2014-02-17T01:09:42+00:00

It just is mate. Belonging is big thing over there i think. They love having common enemies and they love snorting at those who say they got it wrong or are being negative.

Another problem is that it's a new way of thinking or looking at things (or for most it is anyway). It has no strict rules and no specific agenda other than to undermine the old feminist ways.

To my mind, there's a lot of women haters who have been on the blunt end of rejection in some way or another and they have found company at TRP. To them, it's not a good social place to interact and build on something - it's a place to confirm their hate and exchange reasons why to hate.

As you said, there's good men; make sure you're one of them and remember you're entitled to post as much as anyone. Reddit is the last true democracy (till you're banned from posting, that is).

drok007 · 2014-02-17T01:41:41+00:00

A lot of people tend to be angry, focusing on the fact that they've been lied to, and that the actual truth can be a bit shitty in certain situations as well. But I agree with your outlook. I would encourage you to post something positive and lighten the mood over there.

Dip_the_Dog · 2014-02-17T03:39:29+00:00

Serious question:

If you are just interested in getting fit and improving yourself but not interested in all the negative stuff, what exactly does TRP have to offer you?

suscitare · 2014-02-17T01:55:56+00:00

Everyone seems extremely angry because they are extremely angry.

GayLubeOil · 2014-02-17T08:25:53+00:00

Im on redpill all the time making all sorts of jokes posting the best images and over all having a gay old time. I do my best to make red pill fun and informative. Unfortunately there is a mysterious Ultra-Beta deleting my posts from time to time.

fiat_lux_ · 2014-02-17T03:16:09+00:00

Perhaps I'm optimistic, because I tend to see more of the positive messages.

Fat guys who admit that they have a problem that they have been actively working on are given support. The insults are heavily downvoted.

People who admit to being incels and depressed are encouraged.

The top post of all time was about a guy who realized he was being disrespected and used and broke free from his emotional dependence. Top voted comment called it "RP porn". The story was their "50 Shades of Grey". This is relatable to many rpers, because they see a guy similar to themselves. Used to be fine being "beta" and being taken-for-granted, disrespected, and used. He breaks a 10 year relationship, despite all the sunken costs. This is uplifting news for a lot of people, in the same way the story of someone finally breaking free of financial dependency or servitude can be uplifting to others.

It's also somewhat negative in some ways, because by nature a broken relationship means at least one party is being hurt (whether they "deserve" the hurt or not is another matter). Also, very often, it takes anger for people to finally say "enough" and break free from their previous servile state of mind. A lot of people continue to use anger as their motivation to change.

[deleted] · 2014-02-17T02:43:39+00:00

One of the base line assumptions of the red pill is the current culture is basically dysfunctional to the detriment of all of us. If you buy this, it should disturb you. Society on a macro level needs to be fixed or you need to be ready to live in a society that is basically lying to you and trying to harm you. Most people would be in a good mood after that.

autoNFA · 2014-02-17T04:20:07+00:00

The success stories that aren't field reports got moved to a related sub, I think. Not sure of the name.

semigod__ · 2014-02-17T19:58:37+00:00

I just recently discovered the red pill and have been lifting and improving myself a lot

theredpill is about the sexual dynamics between men and women. For example that for short term flings, women go for certain traits (e.g. muscles). whether or not this is what you want is up to you (for most readers this is what you want), but theredpill is not about improving yourself. again, you seem to confuse seduction, becomeaman, PUA, etc. with theredpill.

and moreover: if you are not, atleast initially, depressed by the fact that a woman will never be able to love you the way you thought a woman could love you, you have to be quite cold to begin with. the anger comes from all the shit people went through to "show their love", and now learn that they have been literally abused, lied to and what they did in good faith to save their relationship was actually counterproductive.

W-Z-R · 2014-02-17T11:28:24+00:00

I do agree with this (RP poster). I do get the sense a lot of the guys are angry middle aged men who were cheated on and taken to the cleaners in court, on the other hand GayLubeOil is extremely entertaining and gives off that arrogant feel good factor rather than the bitter loser vibe.

_Reticent_ · 2014-02-17T15:58:18+00:00

I think trying to make ourselves find the funny side of what we say will only make people hate us more.

Serious business must be treated seriously, add to that the fact that not many men feel anywhere close to being amused shortly after they've realised their errors.

We get past it; I cringe at past-me and what he failed at all the time, and whilst it can be amusing when told in an amusing way, it kinda hurts to remind myself of it nevertheless.

AdmiralVonJackass · 2014-02-19T00:29:34+00:00

TRP forum is a transitory place. Read The Five Stages of Redpill. Men get emotionally rag dolled by some attractive woman, used, no sex. Or LTR beta gets cheated on. Trail from /r/seduction leads to /r/TheRedPill. Read sidebar. Mind blown. 5 stages, much anger/depression. Get over it. Life goes on.

redpill-throw-awei · 2014-02-23T17:56:43+00:00

/r/theredpill is like purgatory. It's a stepping stone for the angry and bitter. Actually, it's more like, it's for guys who have been wallowing in shame or despair. Anger and bitterness > shame and despair, at least they are motivated to get and move and improve their life. It's just a phase as they rise up from complacent misery.

ALexusOhHaiNyan · 2014-03-07T10:10:43+00:00

Sounds to me like OP is a positive well adjusted guy on the self improvement track and needs those kind of tools.

Reddit isn't perfect and not everything can be found here. I would highly recommend "Rules Of The Game" by Neil Strauss. It avoids the narcissistic players and frustrated misogyny that comes along with seduction and redpill and focuses solely on self improvement - it's about getting out there and improving yourself socially, with step by step assignments - not bitching, just doing. Not sure why more don't mention it but I think it get's disregarded and mistaken for Strauss's initial book on the seduction community itself. It may very well be closest thing modern men have to a Self Help book.

Other than that, give /r/seduction a shot.

[deleted] · 2014-03-27T15:58:16+00:00

Finding out you've been raised in a society that molded you to work against your own best interests would make anyone pretty pissed off.

masterrod · 2014-02-17T05:04:46+00:00

RP at it's core is a support group for men, so anger is just part of support.

You asked why isn't it more fun?

Because RP is about growth. Growth is not fun, and another telling you that you were weak and misguided can't be fun. Even though there are many privileges to being a man in the western world, there are many responsibilities as well. Part of RP is accepting the responsibility of being man, that just is not fun. I think what you're thinking of is machismo, but RP really isn't that.

RP also talks a lot about being alpha. The idea of being alpha is to be able to accept and embrace the concept of nothing, or death, based on alpha theories. Death in the sense every moment, or seeing to their core and stripping the whimsical nature of every thing. When we think about how RP speaks about women. They speak women strategically, stripping away every sort nuance, and the raw beauty of a woman and in so doing they can bequeath a strategy to their followers. In a sense, it's a type of death. Unfortunately, death isn't fun.

The polar opposite of alpha is life. So all things fun, dancing, beauty the help us as people know that life exists. So it would follow that BP forums would be more fun, etc.

This may seem contradictory, but at any rate, embracing the death of your old self is the path to being more alpha. In so doing your look on life will naturally be different.

IIHotelYorba · 2014-02-18T07:29:23+00:00

If you go out and don't know how to have fun, game generally doesn't work. Very few people will connect with your and you'll grind yourself down to a nub with negativity.

The anger/venting in TRP needs to be seen in context, men who have been hurt starting the climb back up.

Title	This is kind of a dumb question, so I apologize but I am curious. Why isn't the RedPill more...well...fun?
Author	Clackers4You
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Date	February 17, 2014 12:42 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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