Have you guys watched this video? A Pick Up artist, a feminist man and a mens rights activist are the panel in a talk show hosted by a woman and audience full of women.

D_D_BA4 · 2019-11-29T15:15:04+00:00

The Ross Jeffries dude is way ahead of his time.

the_calibre_cat · 2019-11-30T07:45:29+00:00

Goddamn woke culture is fucking stupid. This is actually a legit good video. There's strong opinions being asserted by people who fucking openly said them, honestly between the women and the two men! That pick-up artist and that men's rights guy have ten times the balls that anyone subscribing to those movements today, have. Those dudes fuckin' killed it, and honestly I've gotta throw it to some of the women in the audience (I liked when the host said that she wasn't mocking him for wearing the dress, it was because it didn't go with the sweater at all - which was true, and hilarious).

Feminist guy hasn't changed. He's still out there, vomiting platitudes that nobody listening to them disagrees with, thinking he's taking some big woke stand on the issues. Real big risk taker there, I bet even most of the feminists on this forum would agree with that take - so put that in your crushed blue pill and smoke it.

The MRA was easily the cringiest, but, hell. Guy walked up there wearing a dress, and frankly, if he cut his hair short, kept that beard trimmed, and picked up some ('90's) fashion sense, he probably could've killed it in dating, too. The fact that Ross got so much heat, though. That spoke something.

EDIT: quality PPD post! unique! this was great!

AntifaSuperSwoledier · 2019-11-29T16:00:02+00:00

The PUA who gets a negative reaction and says "see I don't verbalize it" demonstrates one of the major issues with PUA. It requires dishonesty, by a lie of omission at the very least. It requires inauthentic and thus unmasculine behavior.

How many people in PUA or TRP would show the women they date their online accounts and what they really think candidly? How many women would dip out if they knew the truth?

He is right that the "nice guys" are also inauthentic. The two are related. The PUA guy identified as a former nice guy. This is someone who has struggled with authenticity from the very beginning. He described his current position as "being able to manipulate women and get what I want." This is the most you can expect from TRP and PUA, the ability to appear different than you really are and successfully manipulate women. The guy also said that despite his improved success, he still hasn't had a normal relationship in some time. He basically said "I love myself."

The MRA meanwhile is the big victim. "We feel harassed every second of every day of our lives" he says. Bizarre, since from looking at this man (typical scraggly neckbeard) I know he doesn't get regular female attention. At best, he is offended on the behalf of others.

This man literally wears a skirt onto the show because "hypocrisy." A great example of how MRAs are a hilarious caricature of feminism. I wonder if he genuinely defends crossdressers, drag, etc. or if he's a conservative reactionary like most MRAs seem to be. Just using the skirt as a prop to win a debate. The quintessential hostile nerd.

Feminist dude barely said anything except "porn is bad" and "men have oppressed women for too long and that should stop."

kaazsssz · 2019-11-29T14:24:00+00:00

That was cringey as hell all the way through. Interesting but I had hoped to learn something. I suppose I did. We are all very ignorant. I don’t know what to say about the video. I guess we have the same state today. You could have this same episode air today and it would be exactly the same. Well, maybe minus the women making fun of the middle guy for wearing a dress. Not sure if that’s allowed anymore.

jacemano · 2019-11-29T17:03:13+00:00

I love this.

Ross was one of the first of the PUAs. He was before even Mystery.

It's amazing

BothWaysItGoes · 2019-11-29T15:02:58+00:00

I don't care what women want, I only care what they respond to

I am not an academic, I am not a theoretician

I like how the PUA from the first minute disregards pseudo-scientific bullshit extremely online TRP guys are obsessed with. Unfortunately, guys like him seem to be a minority among the "redpilled". I guess Sturgeon's law also applies to online communities and people in general.

PM_ME_UR_1ITIS_SNAP · 2019-11-29T17:36:37+00:00

I know not to solely follow the ethos of an argument, but I have a hard time believing Ross can genuinely attract high value women. He practiced "Neurolinguistic Programming," which is a form of hypnosis, yet I find him to be incredibly cringeworthy. There is a way to frame PUA so it sounds more wholesome and less manipulative and he failed tremendously.

The MRA also demonstrates little social awareness. He should know that men wearing dresses and women wearing "men's clothes" are two completely different things.

The man on the right seems to be the most socially eloquent, but that seems obvious because he's in a crowd of people who agree with him. If we interviewed these guys about their favorite movie, or something similar, and not PPD related material, it would be more interesting.

My guess is it would go:

A very tentative fuck Ross

Marry pH.d guy

Kill MGTOW

With that attitude, however, Ross will never be able to transcend his physical body and have his emotional and romantic needs met. That's assuming his methods work at all, of course. He has a motive to lie here.

Edit: Forgot to point out that when someone makes a controversial claim like Ross, of course most of the attention is going to be focused on him. Having a 22 minute segment where a feminist agrees with a male feminist makes poor television.

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goatismycopilot · 2019-11-29T15:01:29+00:00

None of those men are appealing. Women had sex with them?

wub1234 · 2019-11-29T14:53:21+00:00

I don't think I can sit through this. This is just too much.

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