Who are we measuring ourselves to?

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December 23, 2019

Dear wifefuckers,

I feel the need of a live rolemodel. When I was working out by myself, I thought I'm a monster until I went to the gym. Even in the gym, my lifting progress profile seems good when measuring myself up to my past until I see the guy next to me warming up with my max weight. All the authors of our sidebar books and the good posts here, talk about their experience as something we should aim for.

I'm in a spiritual retreat trip during Christmas. I listen to plenty of talks and I love how rolemodeling work. Even though some stories get out of context to fit some narratives, people do measure themselves up to these great (and ancient) figures. I also see how Red Pill Christians take Jesus as their role model, from their prospective, as an integrated man who builds society with utmost masculinity. But who do we measure ourselves to?

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Title Who are we measuring ourselves to?
Author mrpmonk
Upvotes 6
Comments 55
Date 23 December 2019 02:37 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/302703
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/eelcqt/who_are_we_measuring_ourselves_to/
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[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red21 points22 points  (27 children) | Copy


I am out

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (26 children) | Copy

You probably fuck other men's wives, that counts too

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red5 points6 points  (20 children) | Copy

I have been the side piece of Alpha meat for probably 8-12 married women in the past 3 years.

One a quarter. And those are the ones who straight up tell you. The ones are so desperate to be degraded and made into a little fuck toy for an hour or two. The ones who proudly wear that $20k diamond ring beta Bob purchased them while I fuck their face.

This is why I do not understand men on here.

Man or woman will cheat. No one cares. If you get cheated on, that is your fault.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (18 children) | Copy

How do you find these sad women who need to get fucked? Asking for a friend.

[–]gettingmymojobackRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Asking the important questions!

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red1 point2 points  (16 children) | Copy

Shelley introduced me to half of them. Other SAHMs from school or in her circle.

Other half on Tinder.

If your womans BFF is slut. Your woman is to.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (15 children) | Copy

I am going to start targeting moms, you are a genius. Most of the moms I meet have kids and fucking at their home is problematic. Guessing they always went to your place or you fucked in a porto potty or dumpster like Frank Reynolds.

A lot of my wife's friends are calling me to "talk". All women are sluts you silly man.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red4 points5 points  (14 children) | Copy

Of course they are calling you talk.

Women love to talk to beta faggots about their problems.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (13 children) | Copy

This one friend isn't a mom, but she is a fit chick. Armenian Fitness model with dark skin and all the crazy I like in a woman that I intend to fuck. Red, you gotta see this chicks ass. I would eat maple wallnut ice cream out of her ass.

I'll let you know how the second date goes.

[–]hack3geRed Beret6 points7 points  (12 children) | Copy

Why the fuck are you going after moms if you just want to fuck?

Are you too much of a faggot to pick up some young 20 somethings? The moms are gonna catch feels most of the time and try to branch swing which just seems like a waste of time and energy to deal with. The 20 somethings just want to fuck alphas.

Oh wait I forgot you tried that with the babysitter and she saw through your bullshit and dropped you like a little bitch.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy

Babysitter still wants to meet up. Probably gonna go back for round 2 this week.

Babysitter is 28 and pretty mature. The younger girls seem almost retarded. Also, they tend to have room mates or need too much.

Edit: All girls seem to catch Feelz regardless of age or kids it seems thus far. I'll have to keep looking. A good fuck buddy who just wants some dick is what I am looking for. I'll keep holding auditions until someone fills the role.

[–]coinbaserep1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The secret is to fuck your wife like a whore and she will never need to cheat

Just the other day to told her she wasn’t my wife . She then got fucked like a whore and gleaming with happiness all day

She told me she loved me randomly several times in the after glow.

However If she gets caught cheats it was just my turn.

Having my kids half the time and random younger women for the last half of my life would be the consulation prize

[–]coinbaserep0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

he better not be fucking my wife, nah your not she’s a unicorn and nawalt

[–]RoccoPinkman0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Aren’t they all?

[–]coinbaserep0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Of course she told me I was the only One for her and that I am her soul mate

[–]RoccoPinkman0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

She said the same to me

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Me too

[–]coinbaserep20 points21 points  (7 children) | Copy

I was at the gym yesterday and felt like a beast with my 6’0 182lb body then looked next to the hawt dude next to me he was about 6’2 220 lbs of solid muscle his arms all tattooed up. I watched in amazement as he warmed up with 175 OHP

I left the gym immediately and vowed never to go back. Those big men are scary and intimidating.

I went straight home and told my wife all about what I witnessed. She reassured me that I have nothing to worry about and that she doesn’t like men with big strong muscles and it’s best that I just stay home and do body weight exercises in the basement

Weirdly enough she asked if I took any pictures.

Should I be worried ?

[–]HeckleandChide6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry mate. I'll wear a hoody next time.

[–]mrpmonk[S] 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

You shouldn't. In fact, please share these pics with me once you get them

[–]mrpmonk[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

But seriously, correct me if I'm wrong (here to learn). If you train harder and harder to be a person that your wife fucks non-other, you're doing it for your wife! I would look at big guys and admire the process and resilience that brought them there and get jealous to get such dedication to a mission in my own workout. Fuck the wife, who cares if she like bigger guys, I'm not getting big for a woman

[–]coinbaserep1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

My Sarcasm and humor might be hard to pick up. Half that story never happened

I go to the gym for me. The guy putting up 175 and standing next to him did make me feel small. It takes hard word and dedication to get that big and admire that guys commitment

Some guys win the genetic lottery. My Dutchman Friend he’s 6’2 220 lbs of natural muscle. He’s not jacked nor is he fat he might go to the gym 50 times a year

I’ve always been a skinny guy When I was 21 I was 145lbs at 6foot (when I was dating my wife)

200lbs is the goal. I just need to start eating more and getting dedicated

[–]mrpmonk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good for you, Sir. You're trumping genetics with hard work. Now your dedication to hit that target is admirable, but once you get there, you'll be a role model for someone in his life

[–]NightFire450 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Your Dutchman friend is very possibly on gear. Most users won't admit it or like the feels of pretending they are special.

[–]coinbaserep0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve known the guy since he was 16. Won’t say it’s impossible. But unlikely I didn’t hear a hit it

I had another friend in one group that was my size 6’0 170lbs that did several cycles and hit the gym and went up to 230 and maintains it and is a firemen for Detroit fire department and is a beast now.

Maybe gear is the answer

[–]HeckleandChide9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Here's how I do it. YMMV. I do goals then back into mission then back into role models.


Write down every area of your life you care about. Family. Faith. Finances. Fun. Fucking. All of it.

Figure out what you want to achieve, lifetime, in each of those categories and how you want to achieve it. Set long term goals and then break them into short term goals. SMART - specific, measurable, achievable, realistic, timely.

Start a new page and think about the characteristics of the man who could - and did - achieve all of that. He's probably disciplined. Controlled. Ferocious. Funny. A great host. Etc. Write down a plan on how you are going to develop all those characteristics. What are you going to work on and when? Specific, measurable...


Your short-term mission is now to grow into the man that can do all that shit. Then, you should do whatever you want using those characteristics, skills, etc. as leverage. TWOTSM talks about figuratively screwing the world with your masculine essence as your mission / gift to the world. That's a little hippy for me but to each their own.

Find out what a man with the achievements and characteristics you want should do - in your own judgment. That's probably not your real long-term mission but it's likely close enough for now.

Role Model

Measure yourself against the you that starts where you are right now but actually gives a shit and is disciplined. That's your main role model / competitor.

Your secondary role models should be the older men who have achieved something - that you admire - with their lives and you have interjected yourself into their world to learn from them.

[–]mrpmonk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sir, you nailed it on the head.


[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

Be your own judge. Men are just men but at the end of the day you need to look at yourself in the mirror. Do you like who you are? Are you hitting your goals? Can you internally validate?

"Be tolerant with others and strict with yourself." Marcus Aurelius

[–]mrpmonk[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I love this qoute. I'm hitting and missing, but sometimes I dont think all my goals are just and valid. I want more, higher-level inspiring role model I look up to, in order to raise my bar

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have always wanted that and it sounds like you have daddy issues like yours truly.

My old man died this year and I internalized the truth that no one is coming and I am on my own. I will probably never get a mentor or someone to inspire me that I can look up to. Men are flawed. There is no perfect man to look up to in totality. Each man has his own merit even if he is weak in other areas.

One of my mentors is a drunk but he is full of wisdom and brilliance. I eat the meat and spit the bones. I don't consult him for health and wellness advice but I will consult him on business or relationships.

“Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless and add what is specifically your own” - Bruce Lee Daddy TC

[–]77mrpB2A6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jordan Peterson uses a lot of words to say things of debateable wisdom. One thing he hit on the head though is “Compare yourself only to the person you were yesterday”.

[–]FereallyRedHard Core Red4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

The only thing you should have on your wall is a mirror.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Red Pill Christians take Jesus as their role model, from their prospective, as an integrated man who builds society with utmost masculinity.

Jesus could do a lot of cool shit like turning fishes into loaves, levitating on water and being the world's first zombie, but he never got laid.

[–]hack3geRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus definitely fucked

[–]mrpmonk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good point. Well, Muhammad didn't do all that cool stuff, but he had 9 wives, so here is that

[–]hack3geRed Beret5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Good job faggot you missed the most important part of RP.

[–]mrpmonk[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I missed the most important point. I also missed so much in my life being self-absorbed self-righteous man. I take it I have to aske those awake, while I'm waking up and still confused. I expected deeper insight from you though. Disappointed and butthurt ;)

[–]hack3geRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you want me to spoon feed you how do you expect to ever not be a giant faggot....

You tell me what you missed and maybe we can have a deeper conversation but as of right now you are failing at the basics.

[–]theunconquored1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

How about you stop comparing and just be as good as you are capable of being. You have no idea how good you can be. Nobody else matters, wifefucker.

[–]mrpmonk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you!

[–]SepeanRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Your whole outlook seems wrong.

Being confident and thinking highly of yourself is great but you absolutely have to couple it with an intense focus on what you could do better. Most people stall in their progress because they don’t constantly seek to improve.

You should take pride in how you constantly learn more, understand deeper, find things that can be improved and work consistently to be better - and very little else.

Take lifting. Once all the beginner advice is out of the way, the number one thing to learn is plateua busting. The ability to quickly spot a stall, figure out the limiting factor, fixing it and pushing past it is what will make you hellishly strong.

It is the same with everything else. Frame, game, work, BJJ, anything. It’s about acceleration, not speed. Keep your foot hard on the gas instead of getting impressed by how fast you’re going.

[–]mrpmonk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Beautiful reply, very high quality content as expected. Thank you!

Keep your foot hard on the gas instead of getting impressed by how fast you’re going.

My rental car will surly appreciate this. It's getting fucked during this trip

[–]RStonePT1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol. I see a lot of these kind of posts in various places. I direct them to a few people's sales pages where one can pay for the person's time.

Every single guy gets offended that they have to provide value in return.

Sheep in search of a shepherd are some of the laziest people I know.

[–]JoeBuckYourslf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Have fun on your spiritual retreat, nerd.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

measuring yourself against someone else is evading the responsibility of measuring yourself against yourself. deep down you know who you are, where are you, how you are going. if you really are so delusional that you don't know then you need to get out in the world and get it slapped in your face for you.

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You should measure yourself to Richard Simmons.

[–]mrpmonk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

But how did he do it? 30 years of assfucking may get anyone there. But is it worth the literal butthurt?

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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