I’m 99.9 percent sure I will be an incel MGTOW till I die

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xvszero · 2020-11-11T14:53:49+00:00

Well, first off, MGTOW is a chosen label, so you can reject that right now. "Incel" more or less is as well... just because you're a virgin doesn't mean that you need to take on the label "incel", which is usually only taken on by sexist dudes. Reject these labels.

How old are you?

tomowudi · 2020-11-11T15:31:20+00:00

People find what they are looking for.

It doesn't seem you are looking for reasons to like yourself, and so you assume that women will only focus on the parts of you that you spend the most time noticing. Which, from what you have briefly wrote seems very focused on the parts of you that you are ashamed of.

But here's the thing. You are more than that and you know it. It's just not what you spend most of your time thinking about. Instead of constantly looking for reasons to trust others and be greatful for what you have right now, you spend a lot of time looking for ways to avoid being rejected, ridiculed, or otherwise hurt by others.

That would be a depressing way for anyone to spend their time. Hell, you could look like John Stamos or Ryan Gosling and if that was how you spent your time, I gaurantee you that what you saw in the mirror wouldn't be much different. Our perception SHAPES our EXPECTATIONS of reality.

But reality is what is true even when it doesn't match our expectations.

You trust your experience because you learn from what doesn't kill you. But many things don't kill you that are bad for you, like smoking or eating fast food. Health isn't one thing. It's a balanced relationship.

Because everything is a poison or a cure. It is a matter of dosage. Too much rat poison will kill you, but the right dosage is a blood thinner that heart surgery patients take daily to survive.

Your relationship with yourself is the foundation that all of your other relationships are built upon. Not just sexual relationships, but friendships, your relationship with your work, money, food, exercise, popularity, morality, information, social media, your cell phone, video games, drugs, masturbation, etc.

I hope this helps. If you have questions, just let me know.

Life can be tough to navigate, but you've got this. I believe in you. What you feel now is normal for your age, but it is TEMPORARY.

“Rules For Healthy Relationships” by Tomo Albanese https://link.medium.com/ZrDzahkvkbb

RoadKon · 2020-11-11T15:11:28+00:00

You're capable of taking responsibility. I think everything would get àlot better for you and the world if you did.

quickbucket · 2020-11-11T16:08:49+00:00

If you don't love yourself and don' take care of your mind and body, I dont know why you'd expect someone want to partner with you.

bonobo-no · 2020-11-11T16:38:03+00:00

Just hire a sex worker.

coffeetablestain · 2020-11-11T17:47:51+00:00

Maybe I have been listening to much to incel and MGTOW content

I mean, yeah. If you even suspect this at all, it means there is a problem. It's like when someone posts a question to one of the alcoholism subreddits asking for opinions if their drinking is a problem.

If you're questioning it, it's already an issue. Remove issues from your life when you even begin to feel uncomfortable.

Going back to the idea of addiction, the only reason you wouldn't want to nip problems in the bud is if you already have a real low sense of self worth, and it sounds like that's the case here with you, and will most people who identify as incels in general.

You are not seeing your worth, you don't feel like you "own" anything about your life, because you have all that worth tied to your sexual status and what women think of you. One way incels and mgtow's deal with that is to devalue women so that it increases their own value. It's not any more complicated than that, but easy to build giant palaces of reasoning and jargon and explanations to support that very simple premise. When you feel outside sources are making you feel bad, you devalue those outside sources. Not a failing on your part, it's human nature to do this to protect our sense of self.

But whatever you're doing in life, you have to constantly stop and ask yourself a few really basic questions:

What is it I want for myself?
Is what I'm doing now giving me progress towards #1?
If not, what other things can I do?

That's it, three simple steps. Set aside how much you hate your looks, how much you feel disappointed with society, feminism, media, your skin, your raging hormones... all that is separate from answering those three questions.

And you also have to do the basic mathematical function of factoring down your answers. If you say "I want women to adore me" that's not at all wrong, that's what everyone wants. But ask yourself why. What feelings do you desire, what emotional states are missing from your life that you want that thing. Simplify your answers to those three questions the best you can.

You can call yourself whatever you want, you can label yourself an incel, a blackpill, a trekkie, a furry, a geek, a goth, a witch, none of that really matters, we tend to label ourselves more and more and dive deeper into that identity the less we value ourselves as individuals and try to ride on the value of a group identity more. Just understand that's actually going on there. Every time you laugh at someone who is deep down the rabbithole of groupthink or fandoms, remember that it's because something is missing from their lives, and you're doing the same thing.

You're deeply depressed, that's obvious. Like, not just "bummed out" you are actively in danger from depression as a disease. If you don't get a quality, professional plan in place for dealing with your illness it can kill you. Your parent's approach may have been wrong, or maybe the plan wasn't good in execution, maybe you were on the wrong meds, or maybe should not have been subjected to meds at all. It's well known that medication for depression can trigger self-harm or suicides in teens, so it's disappointing you had to go through that, but not entirely unheard of. Depression in young people is very challenging, but you're older now and able to make more decisions for yourself, so please decide that you need better care and help.

You didn't become "I’m 99.9 percent sure I will be an incel MGTOW till I die" overnight, you didn't just wake up one day and put that costume on. You build that identity slowly as you learned and read things, as you tried to find an escape from your pain or a reason for why you're hurting.

So you have to understand that your path out is also going to be slow, and you also will need to want to get out of your current state. You have to go back to those three questions and decide what's most important to you. Use them as your guide out of your pit.

The very last things you should be thinking about: relationships and sex. You're sick dude, even if you were a beautiful Chadlord of the Chadlands, you are deeply depressed and should not be letting your urges dictate your priorities right now. When you get better, then revisit the idea of companionship, because your perspectives on it will have changed, you will continue to grow and develop and your attitudes WILL change, you just have to guide it the right way. Look, the "on paper" principle of MGTOW is to stop worrying about women, so do that for a little while, literally stop thinking about it. Also stop reading their bullshit, once you make that decision, that's all you need to do, you don't need their constant whining and moaning to reinforce that, it's just noise.

Once a little healthier, you're going to start changing the way you look at yourself, you will start caring again about your health, your skin, your clothes and your goals in life. That's just how healthier people think, no matter what their handicaps. Through that is a path to real happiness in life, companionship, a family, a career, future and rewarding goals to attack. But don't get hung up on that or try to dismiss or rush towards it, just know there's hope.

edit: motherfuck

Title	I’m 99.9 percent sure I will be an incel MGTOW till I die
Author	Nofap_infinity_man
Upvotes	10
Comments	38
Date	November 11, 2020 2:32 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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