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[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorCopperFox3c82 points83 points84 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
While it's always good to be aware of red flags, let's not conflate those (or the lack of them) with some assumed outcome. They will all cheat, given the right circumstances. They will all branch swing, given the right circumstances. All things in this world are ephemeral - they come and they go. You cannot hold them. You cannot possess them. Enjoy your time with them, but never put them on a fucking pedestal.
Remember, she's not "yours" ... it was just your turn.
[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You cannot hold them. You cannot possess them.
This is a big difference in the Alpha-beta dynamic. An Alpha doesn't give a shit, while a Beta craves ownership, and a woman can exploit that vulnerability.
she looked me right in the eyes promising till she was blue that she never did and never would.
Women are much better actors then we are. They'll hookup with randoms, but when she finds a guy who displays "keeper" qualities, she'll put on the wholesome act. And it's so tempting to buy into this act, because deep down, we want to believe they're wholesome and we've made a good choice.
If you buy into illusions, you'll take the chumps fall.
[–]StrokeGameHusky8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes I've seen this many times, I've been called a "keeper" many times, plates, gf's, gf's moms, etcetc. (Not bragging, making a point)
Many chicks who I know are downright whores try to put on the charade like they won't do certain shit because it's beneath them, when I know they are floozies.
Bottom line is, it's better to be the alpha "bad boy" type than the keeper type.
[–]circlhat2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
while a Beta craves ownership
Craves stability, and affection so much that he has no standards.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Or you're not hers. It was just her turn.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If its just your turn and she is inevitably going to cheat,you are entering her frame by remaining faithful.why put all your eggs in one basket until she swings to the next dick.
[–]FrameWalker25 points26 points27 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Girl from tinder has to be the major red flag. Good game and high smv will sway most girls for the first date close. You want a girl to like you enough to give you sex right away
I prefer second date sex, i usually keep the first date to an hour or so and if it's worth my time I'll spend more time with them and go for it.
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[–]StrokeGameHusky1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also, gives you an easy out when those red flags become deal breakers
[–]H42 16 points16 points16 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Clymidia is the "light beer" of STDs. One pill cures it, don't let it bother you, but go get that antibiotic and get rid of it.
[–]1Claude_Reborn1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link
I'll just leave some nightmare fuel here for you.....
[–]randomuserwot1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well, no pity from me for this guy. From what I heard this "Tinder" is a fuckfest app, nothing more, nothing less. What the hell did he expect?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you bare back any skanks your going to get the clap a few times. Not really a big deal.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's Gonarrhea, not Clymidia
[–]IGoYouStayTwoAutumns14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What's the FIGHT CLUB quote? "You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake..." If she slept with you on the first date, it's not because you're so alpha awesome (though we all love to think that of ourselves)--that's just how she rolls...
[–]1PantsonFire12340 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Anything is possible with these wenches. It's still situational though.
I found that any girl that has to travel for more than 2 hours to meet you on the first date is definitely DTF. They want to hold your interest and they are aware that the window could close after the first date.
Is she still a slut? Yes, but the situation dictated her to be one.
[–]Hunter2isit63 points64 points65 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Your post has nothing to do with fucking on the first date. If I don't fuck on the first date I generally will never call them back with very very few exceptions.
better lesson here
[–]fake727217 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
LTR girls are virgins and not DTF at a moments notice. that is what he is talking about. obviously use a condom
[–]roteroktober12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you ever find a girl like that, she is most likely just a slut who got some girl game...
[–]gg_s7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It doesn't matter how soon they fuck you, it matters how soon they fuck the next guy.
[–]WhyMe404[S] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I've dated 6 girls (1 month + relationships) and the only 2 that cheated on me (that I know of) were the ones I fucked the first night I met them.
I'm not saying that all girls who put out right away will cheat on you, just saying that in my experience it seems a hell of a lot more likely.
[–]AureliusThunderkok13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
< I'm not saying that all girls who put out right away will cheat on you, just saying that in my experience it seems a hell of a lot more likely.
Of course this is most often correct. If a chick is dtf on first date her LTR potential is low. Maybe fine for a good time but not a long time.
[–]Hunter2isit-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The only one that cheated on me was my borderline personality cunt ex wife who went lez. If they are cheating you need to up your game a bit, up your value.
Generally when a girl says to me "I have a boyfriend" I say "where?" and I make a point to look for him. If he isn't there (real or not i dont care) and she wants to have fun, she is having fun with me. So if one of these girls is your GF you've already fucked up
[–]TheDon8351 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That doesn't really make sense, dude.
[–]VikingOverlorde5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Well you're obviously not looking to date anyone, then. To each his own.
[+]Hunter2isit-7 points-6 points-5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
no longer am I looking rather I am dating someone though if it goes south I will MGTOW for a bit. And since I am basically not working, going through a divorce and back in school in my 30's that makes me a Chad Thundercock I guess. You know what? Its hollow
[–]VikingOverlorde3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Are those supposed to be good things? Lol
I'm confused as well, spoken as if to brag, but these are all bad things, excepts school I suppose..
[–]BannedBandit1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This really misses the point entirely. Your goals with fucking sluts on the first date is probably completely different to most guys LTR goals.
[–]2Overkillengine5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Modern medicine has made men stupid. Back when the consequence of getting the Clap was a hammer to the dick, men had ample reason up front to be a bit more careful.
Now one can just pop some pills to fix it. No wonder so many men get worked over. Bad choices aren't painful enough until one is well into the point of no return (child support/alimony).
[–]TekkomanKingz5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I swear sometimes I think there should be punishment for Men who fuck these bitches raw INDISCRIMINATELY. We are supposed to be the smarter sex. This is what is preached on TRP. How the fuck are you smart when you are fucking a bitch you barely know raw?
If I had dared not used a condom with several Women I've encountered I'd probably have every STD under the sun at some point. And these are so called White Collar Upper Class "Strong, Educated, Independent" Women.
How many times does this need to be said TO STOP FUCKING THESE BITCHES RAW????
Unless you've been with her for at least one year (and preferably 2) just don't even think about it. If I were single my criteria for not using protection would be:
And that is just for starters. At the end of the day go with your gut feeling which is the synopsis of all of the analysis that goes into trusting a person. Would you trust this person with your life? If you can't confidently say at least with 90% certainty - Why take the chance???
[–]myexile9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
idk I feel like if I don't fuck on the first date, the chemistry isn't quite there, my game isn't quite there, or my SMV isn't relatively higher than hers enough.
I don't want to wait for sex ever again. I bet you most girls have had some semblance of a ONS by the time they are done with college, at least ones that are attractive enough. Why wait for something she's given so freely before?
[–]randomuserwot1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's the madonna-whore complex. We want a whore in bed, who is down for dirty ONS, but in a relationship we somewhat expect her to be an innocent angel apart from the shit she does in the sack with us (which we - prior to TRP - believed to be an exclusive privilege). Get a virgin into an LTR - and then? At some point she'll decide she's missed out on the CC and fuck you over anyway. I don't really see the point of LTRs anyway. To me they seem to amount to a shitload of work (yes, being the captain obviously drains a shitload of energy) and few benefits. If what you're looking for is companionship, you're better off looking for fellow "alpha males".
[–]StrokeGameHusky0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When a chick asks me why I don't want to get married or have kids, I say "because it doesn't benefit me"
[–]myexile0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I like the whores, I just don't like how fickle they can be when shit happens in your relationship. Or all the "idk if I want to keep doing this anymore" because of some dumb argument you had drunk one night.
[–]user65804 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I always make a girl think I'm really "open" with my sexuality and that I'm okay with girls sleeping around etc.
Just be really welcoming and non confrontational, and wait for the trickle truth, after a few meetings I'll know how many guys she's fucked, if she's had threesomes, how many where one night stands etc.
Then once you've gathered enough data "yea I don't date girls like you"
[–]BrunoOh9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"yea I don't date girls like you"
Never give a reason.
Just give some bullshit reason like "I don't feel the chemistry" or "I'm really not ready for a relationship".
Pass on the non judgmental courtesy to the next guy too.
[–]StrokeGameHusky2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seriously, then she will know not to tell guys she's a whore (which she should know, but plates are dumb.)
[–]user6580-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Eh Im still quite petty with girls. I like calling them stupid and watching it make them try to get my approval.
[–]GoldPisseR8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Isn't a girl supposed to give in to an alpha half an hour after meeting him? /s
I said in another thread quality women make even top guys wait due to fear of getting used , but I was mass downvoted.
She can show appreciation in other ways like cooking and buying shit for you,like my partner did for me.
[–]antariusz1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If by "quality women"... you mean women that have been pumped and dumped 20+ times and 10+ years on the cock carousel... yes... that is what wall-hitters do. They fear being used, because they've been used many times before.
Women don't make alpha men wait for sex, they only make you wait if they think you will wait AND they want a long-term relationship with you, ie: you show too many beta behaviors.
I'm 10 out of 10 on my last few first dates... I basically tried to make myself into the ultimate alpha caricature, and sure enough, it worked.
Tried upgrading the plate I had (25, attractive asian, claimed lifetime total 2 (widowed after 4 years) partners) to a LTR... but that's currently on hold as she wanted "more time apart" after 3 months so that she could spend more time on her studies (college student and full time worker). That's great for me, she was the one pushing for exclusivity.
[–]gg_s-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course you were downvoted with those blue pill sentiments.
First, making a guy wait for sex is a shit test for exposing neediness. You pass by walking away and finding another chick to bang. You fail by waiting.
Second, sex is a basic need, not a kind gesture. If you happily accept meals and gifts in lieu of sexual access, something is wrong (unless you're getting it elsewhere). It's like taking a job that offers fantastic perks but no paycheck (unless you're paid elsewhere).
[–]musicvita251 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I always rubber up. Always. I even fucking was considering with my ex not rubbering up, but ALWAYS RUBBER UP.
My ex met her on tinder, fucked her second date.
So just to update your story for others apply this to women you fuck on second date too. Its no different.
Chlamydia is easily treated.
It's a good lesson as it could have been something worse.
Wrap that rascal. AWALT
Its not even worth mentioning in the future once you've treated it. Definitely don't go around announcing your STD, people spread it as if its a big deal. One cycle of antibiotics and its gone forever.
[–]magus6781 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hope you told her. I mean fuck her and all that, but be a bro to all those other guys and tip her off that she needs to visit the clinic.
Girls who use Tinder are whores. Most girls are on Tinder hence most girls are whores. That's the reality guys. Most girls are whorish today so that's the default. It shouldn't surprised anyone now.Treat her like a whore as a default and promote her if she isn't but don't bet on it. In a way this is limiting our beta tendencies to believe she is our best friend or other nonsense.
[–]thinktankman0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Here's why your post is dumb I can guarentee that if you find out your girl has had a one night stand with other guys you will be the first one bitching about how she's a slut who made you wait.
I make it a point to smash girls asap of course I vet them out with choice questions
[–]ynwatren-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If its a LTR you are looking for with a girl who has a low notch count and made you wait then its definitely a good thing and I would not complain. Unfortunately, these girls are few and far between. I don't want a LTR, but a low notch count and not banging on the first night (or the next few that follow) would be among the top criteria they would need to meet if I did.
Obviously if she has slept around a lot and makes you wait, then you are going to be pissed. Id also suggest looking for a LTR from a girl with a high count is incredibly foolish in the first place. So all things considered, its a sensible post.
[–]thinktankman0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I never mentioned notch count my girl now only had 5 partners including me barely uses social media and I smashed the first date. How i keep her in line i use abundance mentality and pass her shit test. Smashing on the first date is not a big deal using social media to smash I would say was the bigger problem
Also if she made you wait and then smashed all her other bfs or whatever first night even with a low notch count would you still not be annoyed
[–]ynwatren0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I can really relate to this, OP. I currently have a plate who really likes me, strives to please me, she also called feminists stupid citing that they want MORE rights than men, she buys me stuff and wont take money for it, spends 2 and a half hours and money to get the bus to see me every week or 2.
The only problem is, I pulled her from a nightclub and had sex the same night. As well as this, she has fucked 14 guys and has only just turned 19 last month. Its such a shame she had to slut around, because she is a great girl other than that. Due to her past, I dont see me ever promoting her, which is a bit of a shame as she is a great girl. I am currently in the process of trying to push her away by sending blue pill signals. I dont want to be cruel and just tell her I dont want to see her any more, as she really likes me and treats me well, so Ill try get her to lose interest.
[–]80smadmaxonly0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm a right-brained creative guy and as such more like a dog in my need for companionship. This puts me as at a disadvantage. Having said that, I'd down beers to drink my way through lonely nights then LTR a Tinder girl.
[–]ShanksNes0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you just happened to be in the right place at the right time and if you weren't there she would have fucked someone else
I wish more men could understand and internalize this. This is a good attitude to have for men.
[–]RedIsSafe0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Since you have Clymodhea what are you gonna do?
[–]1Claude_Reborn0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Look on the bright side, at least it's ONLY the clap, which is easy to treat. You could have got a lot worse (HIV, HEP or Herpes) and you learned a valuable lesson.
ALWAYS WRAP IT.
ALWAYS.
Not just for STD protection, but unless you have had the snip there is the ever present risk of her unilaterally deciding to go off her BC and trying to make you into her Baby daddy.
DON'T BE STUPID!
WRAP YOUR JUNK!
[–]antariusz2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The clap is actually gonorrhea...
Ask me how I know :(
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Isn't gonorrhea easily treatable as well?
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mate you just can't vet girls or hold frame properly, I suggest you hit the sidebar.
[–]emmyyyy-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Clymodhea.. redpillers are truly retarded.
[–]AlphaXpipubs-5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
That has nothing to do with connecting. I have a very hot girlfriend I fucked the first date. I just qualify more than you do.
[–]Connuck10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Or perhaps, you just haven't found out she has been riding the CC behind your back
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You should always assume every girl is on the CC behind your back. Because more times than not youll be right.
The mindset also makes you not care as much.
[–]prodigyx-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you had to get an STD, chlamydia is the the best one. Take 2 pills and it's gone in a couple days.
I've never met a girl off of tinder that wasn't a slut. Never LTR a tinder girl.
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