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[–]DangZagnut203 points204 points205 points 7 years ago* (30 children) | Copy Link
That's the beauty of a lifestyle choice, and stripping the shit from your life.
There's nothing they can do. We just have ideas, no "narrative" just a few ideas most of us agree on.
And they can do nothing to change them. They lose under every scenario.
[–]ikhwan_arif[S] 120 points121 points122 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.
[–]omen_tenebris33 points34 points35 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Ideas are bulletproof.
At least that's what people think
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Good ideas are indestructible
[–]themanmohr9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
genocide has entered the chat
[–]PabloEscoba12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Hell even genocide should be scared of MGTOW too
[–]WanderlustYouth6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Genocide can't work on us, as there's too many men of too many races, religions, backgrounds etc. that are MGTOW. At best they could impose a bachelor tax , but even that would fail eventually
[–]themanmohr-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
If you kill everyone who believes in an idea that idea no longer exists
[–]Saix1711 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You would think socialism on a grand scale would have died out given how many its killed but here we are. Ideas will resurface on their own given enough time.
[–]themanmohr-5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Well yeah but that’s because we live in a free society if it’s an authoritarian nightmare who kills literally everyone with a different ideology they’re probably going to destroy every record of those other ideologies the same way the Nazis burned books
[–]Saix173 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
They can try but someone will remember it even if they did not participate in said ideology. It will survive somehow, it always does.
[–]nadgobuyoo5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If we were a group, yeah maybe, but we are not. We are individuals from all over the world each going his own way. They can't do shit about that.
[–]Atton_Risk13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
MGTOW is but a consequence of committing abuse.
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
"There's no place I can't be, Since I found Serenity.... You can't take the sky from me."
[–]EvilPencil12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ironically the whole crew ends up white knighting for Inara...
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes that pissed me off.. They shouldve let her die
[–]Mr_Mueh2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pshhh and miss the chance of possibly getting some of that hot pune? I don’t think so virgin.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes and no. She proves herself capable busting Mal and Zoe out of the holding in Train Job.
Mal still makes fun of her profession from time to time maintaining his position as Alpha.
And then there's the incense bomb in Serenity- oh and duping Saphron...
So I mean all and all she's worthy of their white knighting cause she's part of their little fucked up family.
[–]Loban89909 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Then Fox proceeded to take the sky from us, by canceling after one season.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We can still imagine our own season 2, write our own fan fictions, make our own comments...
Can't stop the signal.
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
it's really nothing more than a way to approach living in a society. marriage and family has been pretty standard for a long time once tribal societies started having bigger cities. it's been for the most part the best way to survive. until the industrial revolution where having 8 kids to farm your farm wasn't that important anymore. this is basically the continued effect of that some 150 years later, the industrial revolution NEVER STOPPED. we're the product of the post modern world where its easy to live alone and survive easily. often much easier than within a family.
[–]hkl83246 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
They may inpose bachelor tax in the future
[–]greyman3148 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They already have a bachelor tax. They take from all men and spend only on women and children. Married men have some of their taxes returned as subsidies for their children, single men were just robbed of their income w.o. anything to show for it.
[–]xiaodre6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
this is already a thing bud, and its been going on for a long time. it was 2nd wave feminism and tradcons banding together in the 1960s (i looked it up, it appears to be from 1970) to pass into law the huge tax credits for married couples. it happened first in the us, then in england.
married people get an extra amount of money back on their tax returns compared to single people.
some people are saying trumps tax reform also does this in even bigger numbers, but we'll have to see how it works in reality before we know.
[–]Mr_Mueh-4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ughhh that’s such bullshit!! Makes me so mad. I’m gonna knock the next woman I see clean tf out.
[–]xiaodre0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
completely fucking unfair. i was shocked the first time i got an income tax refund as a married man. looking back, its one of the first red pills i ever took. didn't know it at the time, though. i was pretty fucking stupid back in the day.
[–]DangZagnut3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They already have the unmarried tax in the U.S., where people that get married and pump out kids get free money.
[–]henvictor0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Apparently it started in Ancient Rome (~9AD) to encourage people to get married and penalize those that didn't. Those exempt from the law were the vestal virgins. All female, surprise surprise.
As for the tax, if you add up the total you would 'save' over 20 years (which is far longer than the average marriage) it ain't gonna cover the child support checks and it's certainly not going cover the house you lost in the divorce settlement to your cunt of a wife. Think of it as a service fee to keep your assets safe from the epidemic of gold-digging whores.
[–]badaboomxx2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are correct, I baffles me the people who come here bashing our "movement" only to not understand that this is not a movement at all.
[–]DWShimoda82 points83 points84 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It also doesn't involve any "activism" or even any "activity" or specific "actions"...
In fact it's the opposite... it's simply NOT engaging in certain actions.
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[–]DWShimoda10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And for that we are called vile, losers, scum, and other derogatory words.
Ayup.
For not submitting to others ideas of gender roles we are criticized and degraded. Let that sink in for a bit.
Mind you "Gender Roles" that the very same people are also at the same time labeling as Patriarchal and misogynistic and toxic.
"But how DARE you -- you vile, scummy 'MGTOW' losers -- how dare you NOT agree to become the (OTHER) thing: vile scummy 'Patriarchal, misogynistic, toxically masculine' husband-daddy-ATM-machine/cucked-simp-lifelong-indentured-wageslave losers!"
[–]StrongAttitude76 points77 points78 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
mgtow is the coolest thing in found on the internet. MGTOW people are peaceful but they are also very destructive at the same time. Soon the whole society will fear them.
[–][deleted] 45 points46 points47 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Fucken let it burn.
I'll have whiskey and cigars for anyone who wants front row seats.
[–]house_monkey6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like a good time, I'm in
[–]AcidDev3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I will bring mine whiskey but would be nice if you could reserve one seat for me. Thx
[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Soon the whole society will fear them.
The society already is. The best part? MGTOW doesn't give a shit.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The Feminazis will fear MGTOW sooner rather than later. Their once ever increasing march forward to male domination requires men to open the door, and submit. Without that there is no opportunity to stick it to the enemy, and bleed the patriarchy. No marriage=no divorce=no alimony or child support=no golddigging=no means to wealth for the bitches....other than working, and with them constantly suing companies at every opportunity, it's only a matter of time for employers to find a way to circumvent hiring discrimination laws.
[–]tricks_235 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's a forward thinking philosophy right there
[–]FreedomFighter21052 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I believe the word you're looking for is "subversive"?
[–]LikeHarambeMemes1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Peacefull but very destructive at the same time.
I wouldn't say destructive, more like aggressive and then you have described the male gender perfectly.
[–]davisyoung33 points34 points35 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Feminism is the regulation of actions, speech, and even thought and MGTOW is the complete opposite of that.
[–]henrysleepingbag34 points35 points36 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Anyone that doesn't believe addition by subtraction is possible just hasn't heard of MGTOW yet.
[–]verynormalsimple30 points31 points32 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The only certain thing about MGTOW is that no one can really define it and that some men agreeing on certain things are doing it.
[–]LikeHarambeMemes3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Definition: Don't engage in relationships with women
[–]SuspiciousLurkerGuy1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's not the definition though. Many MGTOW's still engage in casual relationships with women.
[–]LikeHarambeMemes-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then they are no MGTOW's, they still have to learn.
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[–]Macphearson1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If you have to link a .com website, you're already wrong.
Those take money, a philosophy doesn't.
[+]Macphearson-12 points-11 points-10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You should get help for that autism.
[–]egalitarithrope1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The original purposes of TLDs are not really followed.
[–]ThirstySasquatch24 points25 points26 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Just like when Bruce Wayne described the creation of Batman and the fact he wanted Batman to be a symbol.
Anybody can be him as long as they have the same base values.
And yet at the same time, we're very similar ro the flipside of Batman - Joker. We can't be bought, bargained with, corruputed, etc. Society would call it chaos.
When youre an ideal, a choice that is embraced only when youre free or want to be free, thats dangerous.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The thing is we arent a danger to anyone (but ourselves, what with all this freedom). If their little ideals are turning people off well thats a consequence that they are just gonna have to fucken deal with.
[–]hippocampus22220 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I see marriage similar to this scenario- When you go to South East asian market or shop and show interest in a product. The shopkeep will rattle off a price extortionately high to start the bartering process. The smart and logical action is to just walk away as they aren't being reasonable.
There is no point engaging when the starting point is so damn high because if you engage then the bargaining frame has already been set.
Normally if you walk away and they still want your business they will then reframe the initial price to something much lower as such the power dynamic shifts to something more reasonable, and now potentially both parties can get something positive out of the engagement. The modern day simp would sit and try and bargain with the initial price and then feel okay when they get it to 50% of what was asked without realising that they still got ripped off blind.
Currently the price of marriage has an extraordinary price set on it psychologically, financially, socially. The positives don't out weigh the risks which include; Divorce, a woman in your life who will slowly assert control by subtle manipulation, gynocentric judicial system, losing financial control to the state.
Hence why not engaging in this current system and living by a philosophy of self affirmation is the way to go.
[–]andreas-mgtow17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
MGTOW is a pervasive decentralized disease of TheSystem, that cannot be reversed or erradicated easily.
Non cooperation is corrosive and it has been an existential threat capable of catastrophically eroding even the most powerful empires.
MGTOW deprives women of Male resources and the safety net of having a provider who will marry them after they are done riding the CC. It condemns them to abject poverty.
This is the root of their hatred, and their veiled fear, against MGTOW.
[–]fruguy11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
We're pretty much just ghosting all women.
[–]datguypete1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The other way around for half of this sub
[–]SirGuileSir7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wait a minute - do I have to STOP protesting nekkid???
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[–]rkelly1114 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Still cheaper than divorce.
[–]24problemsbro5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's discrimination
[–]Pharan2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then men work under the table or expat.
[–]mrscissorhands43 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
/r/MGTOW is The Konmari Method for women, change my mind
[–]nigelh4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
MGTOW is seeing the truth you cannot un-see. That truth is AWALT. Everything else just follows.
[–]frankdisney4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mgtow id everything i wish i followed 50 years ago It is all a modern man needs to follow It will give you health and happiness
[–]naveen_virinchi3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think MGTOW is also a mindset. It is a different way (a better way) to perceive reality. I feel more powerful and focused with this mindset. Even though some of my friends don't agree that this mindset is healthy, they do feel jealous of me at times and wonder what keeps me this focused to what I do!
[–]Zombocom19114 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
anything with leaders becomes a movement and eventually gets corrupted, so yeah, its a philosophy and therefore immune to that, and that is what makes it great. It's a philosophy based on saying NO to various things that represent terrible deals, that others have accepted like mindless sheep.
[–]CiceroVoltaire1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Beyond basic tenets regarding certain interactions with women, it's each individual who decides for himself when, why, how and to what he says no.
[–]cleats4u2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We are talking about the slavery of one gender over another at every level through laws and government. The same government that expects the enslaved to obey and fight for it. This brain washing and propaganda campaign has been going on for over 50 years now lead by civil rights groups and feminist leaders. Any opposition to them was shut down, shamed etc. by news organizations. You are labeled a racist, a woman hater, homophobic if you do not agree with all the SJW bull shit used to pass more laws and taxes on the already enslaved = men regardless of race, sexual orientation etc. If the internet had not come along so many would still be believing the propaganda they were sold. Next war, I want to see a lot of cunts dead on a battle field. I think the government knows men are pissed. That is why it is trying to figure out how to fight a war with machines.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Precisely, you can stop a movement but a lifestyle? A set of beliefs? The government couldn't stop this if they wanted to.
[–]modern_rabbit3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I'm down to burn churches, but that's just the militant atheist in me talking.
[–]CiceroVoltaire1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Destruction, hence, like creation, is one of Nature's mandates."
" Those who are unhappy clutch at shadows, and to give themselves an enjoyment that truth refuses them, they artfully bring into being all sorts of illusions. "
-Marquis de Sade
[–]50pcVAS-50pcVGS-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I reported you to law enforcement
[–]ratchet_hd0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I want to turn them into bars & licensed gun ranges (safety factor/ex cop in me)
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
yeah lets mix guns and booze wcgw
[–]ratchet_hd1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I didnt say that. I gave options on what to do with them instead of burning them down
[–]mortysmindblowerz2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah but we could use more organized action tbh
[–]ikhwan_arif[S] 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's an organized inaction. Same difference.
[–]theredpillreality2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Well don't MGTOWs believe in changing marriage laws to be more fair? Technically that's wanting to change laws but ironically for true equality unlike the feminists who just seek to take everything from men and give it to women.
[–]ikhwan_arif[S] 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Those MGTOWs that lean MRA probably do, but it's not a universally shared sentiment. And that is okay too.
[–]CiceroVoltaire0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't know about any one else's mgtow.
my mgtow believes indifference toward women, society, government, politics, the world,...non serviam.
For myself, I believe in solitude, greed, selfishness, hedonism, dark triad and Sadism.
"Can we become other than what we are? " - Marquis de Sade
[–]SUEDE2BLACK2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hmmm I'll take donations to fund my MGTOW lifestyle
[–]ikhwan_arif[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No need to advertise it. Over here none of that matters.
[–]e7IDestiny2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
because unlike them,we have a brain and we us it
[–]combatmonk2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
MGTOW is the equivalent of Men’s Liberation. Yet the only thing it demands is to be left alone; to no longer be used.
[–]Drozz422 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not going to stop butthurt leftists from combing through your post history to call you an incel virgin whatever instead of defending their position or attacking your argument.
[–]AntiAbleism1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They can’t stop us.
[–]Shittybillyall1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks Cesar, very cool
[–]NoButtholeNoGood1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Can we have a naked MGTOW march, tho?
lol
[–]Tookarn1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've never thought of MGTOW in this way. Pretty cool words
" The reasoning man who scorns the prejudices of simpletons necessarily becomes the enemy of simpletons; he must expect as much, and laugh at the inevitable. " - Marquis de Sade
[–]bladdy1051 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love it cuz it even filters out PUAs cucks and betas
[–]phantommaster19990 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Great post but I disagree with him on the "changing laws" issue. I do believe in changing a few laws that are outright discriminatory.
to me it's part of a necessary path toward inevitable destruction.
"fuck them for they know not what they do".
unintended consequences and all. gynocentricity, discrimination, wealth redistribution, border dissolution, equality of outcome, loss of due process soon to be akin to the Venetian Lion's mouth, etc. are all symptoms of decay of modern society and civilization.
my goal is to GTFO before the collapse and shitstorm.
Lol but some of you still try to govern what it means to go your own way😂😂😂😂😂
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[–]xxcups3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Pretty much. But the point is you cant simp/white knight for respect points now or alternatively, you cunt get free stuff from us anymore..mmuuhahahaha!
[–]TETHTONE2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Trolling the MGTOW forum. What a fucking loser!!! GFY
[+]Mr_Mueh-7 points-6 points-5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Isn’t MGTOW a sexual preference? I thought it meant you used to like girls and got burned once or twice and now you’re a celibate homosexual.
[–]CiceroVoltaire2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
stop making this all about you and your lifestyle choices. sheesh, entitled much?
That's what other's would like you to believe. We're nothing of the sort.
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