I think a lot of negative MGTOW comments are feminist trolls posing as MGTOW to create a negative narrative about MGTOW

NotherThrowaway284 · 2019-07-08T01:50:33+00:00

I agree; they're trying to get this sub shut down.

ConstantChinner · 2019-07-08T01:27:33+00:00

MGTOW does save lives!

Crovex250 · 2019-07-08T06:22:42+00:00

Unpopular opinion here, but I believe it is newer MTGOW's. I have laid this out several times, but their are basically several phases a man goes through once he takes the red pill and sees the world for what it is. The first is anger. A lot of the truly ugly comments are simply coming from men in their anger phase. Once a man works it out of his system and truly becomes free, the anger fades as his attitudes and inner contentment grows. The reason we seem like an angry community though is because of the large number of fresh men coming into the MGTOW life, give it time and they will sound like the rest of us...until yet another batch of men come in and the cycle continues.

tradal · 2019-07-08T04:05:30+00:00

a lot of mgtow guys are only just finding the path. they dont understand that letting go of hate is one of the first steps. you cant go your own way if youre bound to a chick by hate. its hard to let it go, but its required for moving on.

Happybobertnvagene · 2019-07-08T01:49:07+00:00

Nah! They’re mostly red pill rage. Women aren’t that bright!

Don’t overestimate the power of a stupid human being!

LiveTheTruth321 · 2019-07-08T01:43:46+00:00

They cant do anything. Once red pilled always red pilled.

karnamansplainer · 2019-07-08T06:20:23+00:00

Sandman already says it million times...women censor men because they fear men will talk to each other about toxic femininity.

AeternusDoleo · 2019-07-08T02:55:46+00:00

I doubt that those comments are femmie trolls. Most likely incel/TFL refugees that are still angry, and folks in the Rage Phase. Doesn't matter, you can skip over those topics and get to the good stuff. We're not snowflakes here.

matthewcoy · 2019-07-08T06:34:37+00:00

I find it funny that all these women gett all but hurt about MGTOW. Tyne stats say that women only desire and want anything to do with the top 20% of men. Talking to two women that have in the past friend zoned me and use to foodie call me, and in my bluepill mind was ok with. That changed about three years ago. Now they are all mad now that they are in their late thirties and in the mid wall crash. So I get they hey whats up text and calls hey we should get dinner and catch up, i just reply hey sure we can go dutch and that usually ends the conversation. I think the ladies get so mad about MGTOW because the 20% of high value men are starting to go MGTOW also.

avtarius · 2019-07-08T05:58:20+00:00

There is no doubt MGTOW philosophy threatens the mainstream. Feminism is just another weapon developed to keep everyone busy.

What sets us apart is we don't waste our time.

Zombocom1911 · 2019-07-08T08:52:32+00:00

they can't defeat a philosophy (not a movement) which simply wants nothing to do with them, its fucking checkmate, and they know it.

SirBlankFace · 2019-07-08T06:11:57+00:00

Maybe it's cause i don't engage all that much, but i haven't seen any of this.

Philosophipster · 2019-07-08T08:15:22+00:00

Good on you mate! Welcome and hope you stay :)

And it’s not just feminist trolls, also SJW fake accounts, white knights at times, etc. People who lurked so much and now feel inclined to mingle in a topic they have nothing constructive to say about. Which we deserve for having community members that do the same by harassing their community (i wouldnt call those members true MGTOW, just guys on the hype train of controversy.)

The negative posts reek of ideological leeches who just measure the world in “us” vs “them”. GYOW actually requires empathy for yourself, inter- and intrapersonal knowledge, which is something you have to do for yourself. The same can be said about lifting, no one can do that for you.

No ideology (religion, cult, generalizing theories about gender roles, online feminism, etc) can truly cater to any individual, they are just there for people to aggregate around for virtue signaling, as a social crutch. Specially if they lack integrity of self and character (read: have no goals, principles or ideas of their own) to otherwise get credit for.

Standing alone together. That’s what this sub is about. It’s hard to understand if you dont get what it is like to escape dogma of whatever group you are ideologically adhering to, born in and sometimes fighting for without knowing your internal motivation to do so. It is the most natural form of being brainwashed.

Just my 2 cents.

1st10Amendments · 2019-07-08T07:29:07+00:00

The chances of OP being correct are high.

[deleted] · 2019-07-08T12:33:21+00:00

I think there's negative comments because GYOW isn't some kind of movement and isn't looking to misrepresent the truth. Think about it. This subreddit is a loose-knit bunch of people who happen to have all made a single choice, who aren't afraid to express their true feelings. It's naturally not going to be as cohesive as a hobby group, a religious group or a political group. There simply isn't a narrative that can be constructed for people who make the simple choice to go their own way, pay their own way and contribute to humanity without having an unnecessary dependence upon a "significant other". Some people are going to have experienced pain which lead to MGTOW and that reflects in the commentary, it's really that simple.

2019-07-08T05:14:36+00:00

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user_miki · 2019-07-08T08:03:33+00:00

Newer guys in red pill rage complaining here looks like a continuous stream of hate from outside.This is the price to pay when increasing our ranks.When the numbers will slow down we will see more quality.Be patient with people and care less what others have to say.

Photogoblin · 2019-07-08T09:10:07+00:00

Well, we do have some assholes on this sub as well, posting unqualified and unsolicited negative comments without real justification, just because they’re so “alpha”.

SnowMan878 · 2019-07-08T13:08:38+00:00

Of course

[deleted] · 2019-07-08T13:44:09+00:00

Disagree. Some are but most are incel refugee's.

The community has had this problem for the past 15 years since MGTOW broke off from MRA in the early 2000's.

novhaku · 2019-07-08T14:09:25+00:00

Depends of what you mean by negative comments. Criticizing society, feminism, how women behave and their advantage is legitimate because you'll always be exposed to these problems even if you go your own way, it will not stop you from losing a job despite you being the better pick for it because "GIRL POWER", it will not stop you from being fired because a woman doesn't like you because you ignored her, and the narrative will still be problematic if you try to discuss something serious anywhere but everything you get as an answer is retarded feminists "arguments". So some arguments that will be VERY "negative" in how they will look are perfectly legitimate and they have to exist if only to warn others.

Then there are the ones supposed to be funny and that's it. Sorry, sjw, humor always exists at something else's expense (even your retarded inclusive humor that just uses white male as a target so "it's okay", not that you care), it's just that everywhere else, humor is often at men's expense, and here it's at women's expense. Nothing shocking about it, deal with it.

I feel like this one is the biggest problems. A lot of threads are supposed to be funny by making fun of complete idiots on twitter (that even BP would quite often recognize as idiots, which means a lot) and yet they are used as an example of "hate", because we're again censorship when it comes to humor and we WILL make fun of retards, BP, WK and thots alike. No matter the gender. That's probably the most common reason of people saying that MGTOW is "hateful". They aren't used to people making fun of them anymore because they're too pampered. Example: this one post with the "best female engineer" creating a sandwich.

Now if we're talking about some of the more "extremist ones" we have there at times that are frankly weird and incel-level then yeah, sure. But there aren't so many of them.

shun2311 · 2019-07-08T14:19:39+00:00

I don't really hate woman that much, in fact I think they can be entertaining if you know how to deal with them

Criket · 2019-07-08T20:58:14+00:00

You are right. We try to save life and these bitches try to block us.

Title	I think a lot of negative MGTOW comments are feminist trolls posing as MGTOW to create a negative narrative about MGTOW
Author	5th-wave
Upvotes	286
Comments	53
Date	July 8, 2019 1:25 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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