When Plates Collide

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April 9, 2016

There was a question on askTRP recently about what to do when 2 plates meet each other. Had a comment but wanted to expand on it here, because this happens to be my specialty.

Plates colliding, or, when two women from the same player meet each other, what do you do? Sounds like the scenario from a bad chick flick. They two women meet, gang up together and then collude to get back at the player for being such a horrible person to women.

Cut to reality.

Colliding plates is something I didn't necessarily consider to be a positive outcome when I first started spinning. I knew it might happen one day, but for the most part I did my best to avoid that happening. What I learned through my experiences is that it's not actually a bad scenario, and, if you manage it right, you can use it to your advantage. It might actually be worth orchestrating a collision on purpose.

I've had plates collide many times in the past. It usually ends in a boost in attraction. They may act upset, but 9 times out of 10, they both work harder for your attention. They will act as though you being a player is bad for attraction, and they might even shit test you "ewww, you're fucking other girls?" or "you're with her? really?"

They're trying to win the game. They want you to think the other girl is stupid, slutty, or gross. Because they want to win. Don't cave. They'll both put in 150% to try to outdo the other. At no point will this social proof actually hurt attraction.

Now, there's a caveat to this: sometimes this causes a plate to fall. It really does happen. Not all women are excited to be plates, and while there's an implicit understanding in non-commitment that one is a plate, they will keep spinning until they are forced to confront that reality. Once confronted, the anti-slut defense might deploy, causing them to fall off.

But remember this- just because she walked doesn't mean the plate collision dinged your attractiveness. She just wanted commitment and decided to cut her losses because she doesn't think she'll win it. If your plate falls because of this, keep her in the black book, because she'll get horny soon enough - either because she can't find anybody, or the beta she suckers will be boring to her. You will still be her booty call. Fine by me.

The massive social proof from other girls fucking you will always, ALWAYS, make them more attracted to you. No matter what they say. No matter how much fuss they put up, no matter what shit tests they throw, no matter what the results of relationship or plate status, your attractiveness level will not go down because of it. Use this information wisely.

As I mentioned earlier, I originally did my best to avoid plates colliding, but I had a habit of keeping 3 spinning at a time, and it was near impossible to avoid them meeting in public at least now and again. Couple that with the fact that I had non-spinning ex-plates, and soon-to-be-spinning flirts that I always work on, there were always women approaching me in public to say hi.

So after realizing the boost in attraction, I started to want these "awkward" scenarios - and orchestrate them on purpose. Because if you play it smooth when they expect it to be awkward for you, it's god damned 100,000 sexy points to you.

When two plates collide, the air gets thick and the pressure will be for you to explain it away, cut the tension. I prefer to lean back and smile. Let it take place. Let them feel each other out. Let them both know this isn't your first rodeo and it doesn't bother you at all. Your cool resolve under this stress will really get them curious, furious, and confused. My god, if that's not the recipe for a wet vagina. Bonus points for physical flirting with both in front of each other.

My first encounter was two potential plates meeting at my house at the wrong time, turning into a month-long battle between them trying to "win" me. The next encounters were bumping into other women/plates in public and me openly flirting with them. By the end of it, it was impossible for me to go out with a plate without running into somebody giving me serious IOIs. Some of my latest exploits included going out to bars/clubs with a plate, and openly approaching other women while I was out with her. The more it worked, the more they tried.

Every time, met with the same token resistance. Every time, it benefited me.

Now, there are some sacrifices I make with a LTR (which I'm in now). One is that I am not openly fucking other women. But these effects carry into the LTR. She is very aware that women approach me in public, that I am well liked by many, and she knows at least a percentage of the women I interact with have either fucked me, or want to fuck me. I don't go out of my way to torture my LTR, I don't orchestrate events like this any more. But the fact that it happens is still in the back of her mind. Passive dread. That social proof is priceless.

Master colliding plates for success in both casual dating, as well as long term relationships.

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Title When Plates Collide
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 149
Comments 38
Date 09 April 2016 04:27 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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Link https://theredarchive.com/post/57622
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[–]evileddy122 points123 points  (11 children) | Copy

I had a plate that was pretty hot and liked to mountain bike.

So one day we are out and she see's a friend ( HOT FRIEND ) and we stop and talk and the girl asks "Is this your boyfriend?" and she laughs and goes "No.. he's just a friend"

Then they start talking about how the girl is recently single.... taking my cue.. I look her up and down and hand her my phone.. "put your digits in there and we can have some fun to help you get over your horrible breakup"

She happily puts her number in and I give her a quick hug and off she goes.

Well.... "my just friends" plate did not like that one bit.

She tried to give me the silent treatment and then blurted out "You don't have to disrespct me in front of people.. that's shitty thing to do"

I smirk.. look at her and say: "We are just friends, sweetie"

She upped her game in the bedroom that night and started talking "where are we headed?"

Too funny that men have to smell like other fish to catch fish.

[–]RedSugarPill15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck anybody who downvotes this. That is exactly how to handle that situation.

[–]TheInkerman4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

What's interesting here is that if you really were 'just friends' (ie; her beta orbiter) I doubt you have gotten her friend's number. The vocal communication was 'just friends' but I bet the sub-vocal communication must have "I'm fucking him" to give that pre-selection boost for the friend.

[–]evileddy20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was standing in front of this woman with no shirt on.

Didn't matter what my silly plate said.

[–]trumpisafaggybeta2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

These are the same principles behind dread-- it works wonders. You have to be careful to cover your tracks here, though, as one wrong move these days can mean a rape accusation just because you hurt her feels.

[–]4delicioustreats1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I wouldn't want to up the tests of "where we're headed". Do you just say " nowhere"?

[–]evileddy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

"We are headed to being great .. friends"

[–]2awalt_cupcake1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

stupid questions get stupid answers don't get serious

absurdity: "we're on a rock in space headed anywhere"

deflect: "im headed to the kitchen for a snack"

[–]NikoMyshkin0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

men have to smell like other fish to catch fish

now there's one hell of a quote

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea44 points45 points  (5 children) | Copy

Touching on the same point, this works incredibly well if you run into a non-toxic ex while you're with your LTR. I ran into an old plate at a concert I went to with my LTR. We chatted, got caught up, had some laughs. LTR was furious. Angry with jealousy. Full of "How could you"s. Bonafide pissed off.

Fast forward a few hours and she's more attentive than she's been in weeks. Sex quality off the charts.

Doesn't matter what a woman says, pre-selection always results in an attraction bump.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

Doesn't matter what a woman says, pre-selection always results in an attraction bump.

I think a mistake some newbies might make is believing that losing/dropping a plate is a sign that it back-fired.

In a sense, it did backfire to maintain a relationship. But if you alter your behavior to maintain the relationship, then you've failed the shit test, and lost at getting your own goals accomplished.

However, in the world of attraction, that doesn't mean it back fired. The attraction will bump, no matter what her actions or words of the moment say. Time will always tell.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

Can you elaborate for new guys how you likely didn't comfort the current LTR and let her feel jealous?

I let them burn in it. Dread works

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

I went indifferent on her. Focused on the show. She tried her faux-indignation act, didn't talk to me for a bit. I just acted like nothing was the matter, because it wasn't. A good way into the show she started getting into it and we were singing our favourite songs towards the end of it. She just needed time for her emotions to play themselves out. They really do behave much like children.

That said, she did try to weasel the topic into conversation the next day in order to eke an apology out of me. Wasn't having that, deflected and used a little A&A, and she acted like it never happened.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Brilliant. They will attempt to betashame you like you did something wrong.

And to a bitch..you DID do something wrong. You made her feel anxious.

[–]1Entropy-71 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The flip side of this is that when you are in an LTR with a quality woman (some combination of hotness, intelligence and personality. . .but mostly hotness), single women are all over you like catnip.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy

So after realizing the boost in attraction, I started to want these "awkward" scenarios - and orchestrate them on purpose. Because if you play it smooth when they expect it to be awkward for you, it's god damned 100,000 sexy points to you.

I agree, not reacting as if you've done something wrong is the key element of how to respond to plates colliding. When you get caught organically, and play it cool, it is surprisingly likely to make both women more attracted to you. HOWEVER, if you get caught deliberately orchestrating a meeting, it is much more likely to backfire, because it gives her a heavier element of deceit to have to hamster away.

If you're a very high status man in the perception of both women, you'll come out ahead almost every time, with little to no effort. It's the average guy, batting at or above his SMV league, who has to be extra-careful about his game during these events in order to come out ahead.

I don't go out of my way to torture my LTR, I don't orchestrate events like this any more.

LTR Dread Game is potentially much more volatile than casual plating; even though she has much more investment to protect, she's more likely to decide to walk upon confronting this reality.

In most of my LTRs with concurrent plates, the higher they rise in my dating hierarchy, the more likely they are to prefer a Dont ask, Don't tell program. They are more likely to respond positively to subtle, implied, low levels of dread, but once confronted with the reality of it, might nuke the relationship.

One time, my main LTR of many years drove up and found me with a throwaway plate in the car about to go for a drive in the country. She tearfully broke up with me on the spot, never to speak with me again; I proceeded to nonchalantly spend the day with the plate as if nothing had happened. Whether this means I've reached a state of Alpha as Fuck, or the last part of that thing I might once have called my soul has died, is a matter of ongoing conjecture.

[–]projectself5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

not reacting as if you've done something wrong

it's called frame. when you allow yourself to be painted as tho you have something wrong, you will be painted as thought you did something wrong.

do not defend, rationalize, explain.. any of it. Never frame yourself in the wrong, superimpose your reality on top of the bullshit.

[–]RedSugarPill6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Whether this means I've reached a state of Alpha as Fuck, or the last part of that thing I might once have called my soul has died, is a matter of ongoing conjecture.

What's the difference between Alpha as Fuck or having a dead soul? I can't tell, but then again, I don't care enough to analyze it.

[–]Joseph_the_Carpenter29 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy

BRB orchestrating an "accidental" threesome.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

Honesty is always the best dread game. Not blurting out all the details, mind you, but giving her the base line of what's going on so she can hamster the rest into place.

From a logistic standpoint, I had two women collide once years ago. They both knew I was seeing other girls. One was leaving and the other was arriving. I simply instructed the arriving one to make herself comfortable whilst I saw the other one out. Of course both asked me who the other one was; my simple response was, " She's a good friend." The word "good" in this context had a lot of weight--but rather than elaborate, I let their minds do the working.

My last plate-collision of sorts was right before my current LTR. Two girls who'd been growing steadily close as friends whilst I was sleeping with both of them. When they found out, they vowed to not give me the satisfaction of anger or blowing up, and being civil. Within 6 months, both had outright propositioned me for sex/offered blowjobs.

When women say they don't like it that when a man is a player, simply take it the same way you would if a company told you that it doesn't like the competition. It's a statement made entirely out of self-interest--but they will,out of that same self-interest, strive to be better and keep you around.

Competition is great for the market and the consumer.

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[–]Il1284 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

When I've had plates collide it was my fault. I used to take plates out with me. Really bad idea. They will come looking for you at the places you take them.

Never have had anything good come from two plates meeting. Always lose them both.

[–]Racism_Is_Natural8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Be more relaxed when it happens. Show them you don't really give a shit.

[–]HumbleEngineer3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I had it happening to me. One plate discovered the name, telephone number and address of the other (somehow she realized that they have friends in common). They both agreed to talk with me about the situation at the same time and elaborated a plan to get me into the trap. By the time I noticed we were already on course.

It was scary, I'll tell you that. Both of them wanting to be with me. At the time, I had only these two (I managed to get 4 at the same time but logistics were messy and you can have too much of a good thing, also the wallet was getting a hit from all the motels) and I was already deciding to have a LTR with one of them, the one living closer to me and with a life with better direction than the other (however the other had great blowjob skill and loved to do them, I still miss them today). I ended the relationship with both of them that night.

A couple weeks later the one I wanted to have a ltr called me, we went out, and we are still together today. She is mad about me and knows that anytime I want I can pull another girl so no tricks around me.

Life is good.

[–]Senior ContributorNightwingTRP3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why has this got less than 100 upvotes in 24 hours? Honestly I'm starting to lose faith in mankind's intelligence here lol.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I may have to sticky this in a little bit.

[–]Racism_Is_Natural4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't go out of my way to torture my LTR, I don't orchestrate events like this any more.

To have the power and yet not to wield it.

You're an exemplary man. I hope to get on your level eventually.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Plate One:

Oh, my, god, RedPillSchool. Look at her butt. It is so big.

She looks like one of those rap guys' girlfriends. But, ya know, who understands those rap guys?

They only talk to her, because, she looks like a total prostitute, 'kay?

I mean, her butt, is just so big

I can't believe it's just so round, it's like out there. I mean, gross.

Look, she's just so...... black.

[–]TheRedStoic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

A little more on orchestrating it, I've done this a lot.

Usually the settings are as follows:

  • limited time frame for the interaction (both are intended to leave)
  • group activity that is only sexually implicit, not overt. (furnishing a room, spring cleaning, hiking, swimming, party, etc)
  • a larger group surrounding with social proof (several Bros who look up to me, maybe a work or club cohort).
  • never an intimate setting, (movie, dinner, etc)

This ends well pretty much every time, though it has run the gamut from one breaking to a Threeway. (usually in the middle, both work harder)

It's really important to know what kind of girl your plate is, is she likely to break when confronted with challenge? Is she likely to go nuclear with jealousy? How desperate is she to hold on to you?

With these things in mind you can pull off some excellent dread with minor discomfort to the plate, resulting in higher appreciation and net happiness for everyone involved. It really is better though, for them to find out from you sooner than letting a rumor mill do potential damage. Control your proof and your information flow.

If any of you are in mrp, you've probably seen my advice to newly married guys, having female orbiters is almost necessary to create a healthy level of attraction. If you don't get them casually keep working and orchestrate some. If you do get them casually, consider plating a few and allowing limited interaction. (again, know the women involved by their tendencies to flip or redouble efforts)

[–]Stythe4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

I won't lie but I don't bring it up. 1 of my plates asks if I was seeing anyone else. I said yes. I know she sees other people as well and I don't care. Since then however I have noticed her doing more nice things more often.

The other one hasn't asked though we're both aware of the fact that we aren't LTR. Shes tried to get me riled up my mentioning people she makes out with, but I don't give away info unless asked directly. Moreover when she brags about other people wanting her, I tease her her about stealing them from her. In tesponse to that one she brought up a mutual aquantence with both know wanted to get with her (and we both dislike him) so I told her she could go for it and maybe I'd fuck him after. Needless to say she called me later to come over.

It really is all I'm how you handle it, like most everything. People will fill in their own blanks their own way with the info they have. If you don't care, they will think that's the best way to be.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Are you Bi or were you just joking about fuckin him?

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

/u/Stythe just gave you a lesson in Applied Agree & Amplify, and it went right over you.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I get thats what it was supposed to be, but I cant really tell over text. Hence, my question.

[–]Stythe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was jokingly letting her know her comment wasn't getting her a response. It can be difficult to tell when it's written due to lack of emphasis. Often when someone tries to give me sass with with something like that I go straight into a completely ridiculous mindset and just sass them back.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What if you run into another guy one of your plates is fucking or dating or whatever?

[–]ECoast_Man0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The massive social proof from other girls fucking you will always, ALWAYS, make them more attracted to you.

This is actually true. Additionally, if you are trying to hook a certain hottie, engineering her seeing you with another hottie works as well (not all the time now, but I would say my success rate is around 75% with this strategy).

Also - maybe a year ago there was an excellent field report from someone who was driving with plate 2, and plate 1 spotted them from the street, and he just waved and drove off.

I should have saved that one, I tried to find it awhile ago, but it was one of my favorite FRs, and particularly on this topic.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This could always be a situation that comes up especially if you decide to plate two girls in the same social group.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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