OP asks how to protect his house and investments in case of divorce. AskMen calls him a paranoid misogynistic shitlord. Welcome to male feminism.

redpillschool · 2016-05-21T20:48:22+00:00

They use shame to stigmatize any action that's in your benefit as a man. This is much like the paternity test issue. Whenever it comes up that a man wants a paternity test, the woman (guilty of cheating or not) will get upset because it means he doesn't trust her and so she refuses to do it. Her friends back her up. The stigma is so ubiquitous that you can basically expect a negative backlash for even attempting a paternity test.

Never mind the fact that you're signing a government paper attesting to knowledge (I am the father) that you can't possibly know without a test.

The idea here is, of course, that most women probably didn't cheat, but they've successfully given cover to the ones who do. There's a reason our species evolved concealed ovulation, it was advantageous for alpha fucks, beta bucks.

Control the message, control the culture, get what you want. Make the very consideration of male interests a crime, ensure a big payout when you do decide to cheat/divorce.

Every time this happens, look who benefits. The feminine imperative works to give maximum options to women.

Rikvidr · 2016-05-21T21:37:36+00:00

I would think you would divorce first, then buy the house or suck up losing half of it.

More great advice. "Just get over it."

chances_are_ur_a_fag · 2016-05-21T22:30:15+00:00

honestly, I feel like that sub is halfway composed of women. also, the guy is a moron for marrying someone with no job or career. amazing.

I_Need_More_Space_ · 2016-05-21T21:03:51+00:00

People will attack your "thinking" point of views or analytic views, because it exposes their own lack of foresight or analytics in their own life.

Men and women do this.

PissedPajamas · 2016-05-21T22:05:08+00:00

These same men will suck it up and lose half their shit in court when they find their girls sucking Chad's dick just because "that's how life works". Their "cruel fate" as determined by the "mysterious forces" of the universe dealt him a bad hand, but it's not ever his own fault for being uninformed and unprepared.

The men of today are no longer men. It's sickening.

Il128 · 2016-05-21T22:30:26+00:00

Marriage counseling is the death nail for any marriage. First, 90% of the time the counselor will "want" to see you separately. This is so the counselor can help the woman feel good about her divorce and plan accordingly. The counselor will basically set the man up to be blind sided.

scarletspider3 · 2016-05-21T23:09:55+00:00

I once experienced the same situation. I was talking to a older dude that told me previously that he was divorced and paying child support and alimony. In a conversation I mentioned that I'm not getting married because the risk of divorce and her walking away with my money was too great. That was basically all I said. He instantly starting saying how it was bigoted of me for not wanting to get married. You would've figured that a man that has been divorced raped would've learned something but apparently not.

howard333 · 2016-05-22T00:42:03+00:00

Honestly, I find that older generations are just rife with examples of blue pill behavior. The younger adults seem to be more analytical and more cognizant of statistics, trends, and behavior of intergender relations than their older counterparts (whether they act on this knowledge, on the other hand, is a completely different story). They're the group that thinks "Oh, we've been married for X amount of years. We're the example to follow." Then when they're asked how they're able to sustain their marriage it's always tripe such as "open and honest communication".

What their marriage length doesn't tell is the story of how often these men hate their lives, how henpecked they are by their wives, how they need to have "poker night" or a man cave just to get away from their harpy spouse for a half hour. What their marriage length doesn't say is that their loving wife is getting railed by their personal trainer while he's off at work or that the husband and the pretty new intern at the office are flirting up a storm. Funny how the checkered parts of marriage are never brought up when our sixty year old counterparts say "communication is the key to a successful marriage".

I'm always wary when I hear old people give me relationship advice. The Baby Boomers. The Gibmedats of our time. If they were a 20-something bachelor in today's era acting on their own elderly wisdom, they wouldn't last five seconds in today's dating game.

INTJokes · 2016-05-21T20:37:59+00:00

The #1 thing he can do is talk to lawyers in the area he wants to live to see how their legal system may play out. Choose the least destructive court.

The #2 thing he can do is not buy a house and just rent, and that way it will not be an issue.

The #3 thing he can do is divorce her now while they have no joint assets.

Incidentally, if the house has a mortgage, and she wins it in the divorce, then she will immediately lose it if she cannot pay the mortgage. If it takes too long to get his name off the mortgage, she will destroy his credit in the meantime.

Entropy-7 · 2016-05-21T22:53:56+00:00

It sounds like you need a divorce now as you are clearly expecting one after you get into a house. You wouldn't be asking this question if you were married to the right woman.

The flip side of this is that not accepting a prenup is clearly a sign that the woman intends to divorce him so she can get the house. Apparently, hamsters only spin one way.

Magnum256 · 2016-05-22T10:52:28+00:00

Shit angers me so much I can't describe.

My friend went through some bullshit that concluded recently. We're in our 30s now, and have been best friends since the early years of elementary school. He was always a bit self-conscious, not necessarily confident (but more so in his head rather than for outward reasons), so when he was in his early 20s he met this cow of a woman, didn't share his sense of humor or his ambitions, the typical country girl who thought the purpose of life was to get married, have a lot of babies, and spend all her time raising those babies and enjoying family life.

My friend on the other hand was more of a techie/entrepreneur, he grew up somewhat poor so really sought after making money. He started his first business around the time he met the girl, he was very successful and was earning around ~$120k/year pre-tax by his second year. He ended up selling that business for a good deal of money, and started another one where he was earning ~$150k/year pre-tax but virtually hands-off for him, so he was basically set. He had the windfall from his first business being sold, and a steady income from his second successful one, hell he could have moved to Thailand and lived like a god for the next ~20-30 years without lifting a finger if he wanted to.

What ended up happening instead is that he married the fat bitch. She was supposed to be on birth control but 'accidentally' got pregnant, she was extremely happy though despite this life-changing accident. Then after that baby was born they agreed to be a single-child family, but she 'accidentally' got pregnant again, and she was super happy about it. After that my friend got a vasectomy but too late. Sometime after the first baby was born he bought a ~$500k house which he mostly paid off in one shot, think he put around ~$350k down on it initially.

So anyway they lived the family life for awhile, whenever I went to hang out with him it was awkward as fuck. His fat wife would call him a worthless piece of shit and call him lazy/bad father, etc. because she felt she was doing more to raise the kids (despite him being responsible for basically making their family rich and financially independent). It disgusted me and I told him so, he didn't have much to say, just looked sullen and half-heatedly agreed with me but in a kind of "what the hell can I do about it" kind of way.

This went on for a few more years and eventually he found out she was sucking the neighbors dick (some fit guy living with 3 roommates, about 5 years younger than my friend/his wife) and so filed for divorce. He ended up losing his house, sold his business and lost a big chunk of the proceeds, and basically had an emotional and mental breakdown, he seems like he's not the same person anymore, no spark or love for life, always semi-depressed. He ended up moving halfway across the country and took some $14/hour office job I think, don't talk to him as much anymore.

wastagaswe · 2016-05-22T00:52:50+00:00

OT: wtf is it with reddit and marriage counseling? Why are people so helpless these days that the best solution is always to seek a professional's advice?

I've always had a bit of a hangup about counseling in general. Perhaps it just me being my natural paranoid self, but don't counselors make more money the more often you show up? So is it not in their best interest to give me faux pick-me-ups so I keep coming to them?

When I was in college I was depressed and kept being nagged to go see a counselor by my dad and brother. I ended up going, and got assigned to some 28 year old lady. She suggested that she can help me get anti-depressants. Being someone prone to addiction, I said no ty. She proceeds to tell me "Yea those don't really work anyway, they just mask your problems." I'm thinking wtf, why would you suggest that then? That was the last time I went to counseling, needless to say.

dbtng · 2016-05-22T00:34:51+00:00

So, what's the problem? Call me a paranoid, misogynistic shitlord. I won't argue. Then again, I don't seek approval from people I don't respect.

trpSenator · 2016-05-22T13:37:14+00:00

I saw one a few days ago that was literally about a guy being cucked while his wife goes around fucking all sorts of other men, and it was killing him, because there was nothing he could do about it and for some strange cuck reason, he got off on the idea even though it was killing him inside.

Some dude chimes in with some sanity, suggesting that he's in a cuck relationship and that he needs to reestablish his masculinity within the relationship. That part of the reason she's fucking other men, is because her "man" at home isn't a real man who just lets her walk all over him. That it would be in the entire families best interest, including hers, if he would put his foot down, stop the nonesense and reestablish a healthy relathionship.

The fucking fellow cucks and SJWs came out in force. Trying to say how there is nothign wrong with him doing this, so long as it was agreed upon or some shit.

I dunno man, if you ask me, there is NOTHING okay with that. And him being cucked is a symptom of some serious issues which need resolve. But the SJW beta fucks will have none of that self improvement. Instead they just want you to accept their worthless pile of shit existance as is...

saml01 · 2016-05-22T02:38:40+00:00

To be fair some of that advice is solid. He should have thought about protecting himself before marriage, whether dumping her because she brings no value or prenup. After the fact is going to ruin his marriage anyway so might as well divorce now, before big money gets in the mix. Any women will lose her shit if her husband brings home a post nup, especially one that sits on her ass all day(like ops, no job or kids) so may as well skip to the end.

2016-05-22T04:22:03+00:00

I do agree with breaking up with her, or not getting married. Why even get married? There is nothing sacred about it, and it's a setback. If she starts running her mouth if he's not officially married just get rid of her, or divorce her if he's married. I hope he prenuped that bitch. Marriage itself is pretty beta and a gross concept.

Also: Prenuptial and divorce means fuck all since she has the vagina. It will only matter if you got yourself a good Jewish lawyer. This is why you don't get married kids.

herewegoaga1n · 2016-05-22T12:00:21+00:00

I'm actually intrigued as to the actual answer(s) to this one. I would think setting up a llc company, trust, purchase/loan to a relative, or living will through a parent would be feasible.

ggolemg2 · 2016-05-21T21:48:52+00:00

Ugh, that makes my skin crawl.

sh0ckley · 2016-05-22T00:25:20+00:00

Fucksake. California is a community property state too. I don't think even a post nuptial agreement can save him. I hope he gets a divorce before it's too late.

2016-05-21T21:48:24+00:00

Its really crazy how''hive mind '' affects people even if at their own detriment. Its like they literally dont notice their playing against themselves.

trptwerp · 2016-05-22T02:39:02+00:00

Apart from thinking that their relationship, and girlfriend are special, those bastards think that they are special. There is a reason why pride came before the fall! So many bastards think they are special and that they are the exception. As we all know, none of us are special. Those that think they are special are extremely average and cliche.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2016-05-22T07:11:08+00:00

Never ever go to "Ask Betas Over 30" with a problem.

2016-05-22T10:20:23+00:00

before they wake up, male feminists and betas are honestly as bad as women

They are worse than women by far. These are guys with the fervor of the newly converted and they're demonstrating trying to gain approval. It's a competition they're in. And they want to win it.

The_Red_Paw · 2016-05-22T12:06:22+00:00

Feminist males are not 'as dangerous as', they ARE the danger. Without whiteknights women would be back in the kitchen in 2 weeks. Women will not fight for their own rights, they get men to do the fighting for them.

NutellaPancakeMan · 2016-05-21T22:12:06+00:00

Those faggotnerds on that subreddit will bend over backwards so they can show their bulldyke landwhale friends, whom they have oneitis for, how "mature" they are for brownie points. What irks me the most is the immediate token response of "get marriage counseling". Are people that cucked that they'd rather pay someone money so they can get advice on how to be better slaves for their women instead of taking the initiative and talking things through with their wives like adults?

2016-05-22T04:16:56+00:00

Since nobody answered the question, what can you do to protect yourself, especially when you are the sole income provider and your wife is considered a dependent?

frys180 · 2016-05-22T08:11:37+00:00

FYI the proper answer on how to protect your assets is to have physical assets outside the reach of the banking / court system.

Gold or other precious metals are the perfect way to hide money.

No bank account to split up. No title to gold. It is anonymous wealth.

If you end up in a divorce, you sold your gold off for cash beer money, prove I didn't.

Gold is by far the easiest way to store and hide wealth, you are just at risk of the value of the dollar and or gold changing over time.

marinewannabee97 · 2016-05-22T09:31:57+00:00

I always hated ask men for this exact reason. Prissy little pussys. I like askTRP because it's like a massive gym locker room or pub. You can ask pretty much anything without shame and it's wandered by real men from all walks of life.

skoobled · 2016-05-22T10:48:06+00:00

Stuff like this makes me wonder if there is a case for some smart and systematic "awareness raising" black knighting that could be done in such forums: expose misanthropy in the majority in order to swing those readers who are on the fence. In the case of this post, it would be readers in a similar situation to the OP, with the intention of making them think, "damn. People really think it's wrong that I want to protect myself against the worst possible outcome? That's crazy"

InformalCriticism · 2016-05-22T13:22:43+00:00

I've heard it from Milo, that men at and below 30 are the ones who feel the Feminist pinch the hardest, and I've started seeing that demographic speak out in videos and examples like this. They are slowly understanding that men older than them have never seen women behave how they do today, so there is no sage advice for them. They have to put their mind in the forge and then to the grindstone to pull through, or risk being publicly torn apart for asking for help or voicing concerns as we see here.

2016-05-22T15:09:50+00:00

Out of 34 replies the ones quoted are not even the top replies. It is reasonable to ask "Are you sure you married the right woman?" In this kind of situation. It is not a shaming question. People were even helpful in the thread, I don't get the bile here.

Stythe · 2016-05-22T01:39:42+00:00

In a sense they're right. If he's looking to protect his investment he likely is, at least unconsciously, aware that things could go badly. That said, that advice reeks of jealousy.

2016-05-22T04:39:55+00:00

Note to self. Never go ask advice from that subreddit.

I am a man. I am over thirty. I think those men are idiots.

it's like they don't care about themselves enough to preserve their wealth. That will change when they get divorced. Then we will see their sad little posts on the MGTOW forum.

skoobled · 2016-05-22T06:09:46+00:00

I know we often say "they get what they deserve for being stupid with women" [paraphrasing] but I really do think this guy would benefit from a trip to our corner of reddit because for the love of fuck, our advice would do him loads more good than listening to those morons.

It could just save him.

DeadSpool · 2016-05-22T07:35:48+00:00

The white-knighting by betas in that thread makes me lose hope for the male gender.

2016-05-22T08:10:46+00:00

Let me tell you this. A prenup ist a contract imposed on a fixed institution. Whenever a judge sees fit he will let the underlying architecture break through. Equity, good faith, coercion take your pick to throw out a prenup. Why do Hollywood prenups hold up then you might ask? Well, the best lawyers money can buy draft them and none of the parties is dead poor.

2016-05-22T08:38:00+00:00

These men are naive. I can sort of understand why you'd think that it's shitty to do that if you genuinely believe that women are angels who can do no wrong. In that case "you got so lucky and you don't trust her? How dare you?" makes sense to them but is retarded as fuck because their core beliefs aren't aligned with truth.

THE_Masters · 2016-05-22T10:02:22+00:00

Jesus Christ why would you marry a girl with no income?? If I was to ever fuckin marry you best believe that woman's going to have an equal or close to my income or At least a college degree majoring in something useful.

2016-05-22T16:15:31+00:00

Honestly his situation is dumb. You should know the rules going in BEFORE you get married. Ask yourself if you are ready and want a legal contract with that person.(if you aren't having kids marriage is literally retarded). This person is an idiot who wants to put a condom on after he's already busted in her.....the damage is done. If anything this is an example of what not to do.

BluepillProfessor · 2016-05-22T16:39:56+00:00

I got banned from that sub for posting the following reply, with no reason given, even though I'm pretty sure I was the top comment:

I'm going to go ahead and go against the grain here and give you some real, honest advice. Although it does look like some of the more ridiculous posts here are getting downvoted, which is nice to see.

Firstly, to the men in this comment section, I think you're all way too optimistic about marriage, and with divorce rates as high as they are these days and the overall way that men get fucked over in divorce at such a disproportional rate, I have no idea why you're all sitting on such a high horse in this regard.

Secondly, to OP:

You protect yourself by maintaining all that is yours. You are the SOLE provider and make 100% of the money. SO here is what you have to do:

Keep her name off the house. You are paying for it - not her, and just because you two are married doesn't mean that she is entitled to have her name on a lease she is not putting in a cent for. Furthermore, if shit hits the fan, you get to stay in the house that bears your name, and your name only, whereas if her name is attached to the house as well, the courts will inevitably and without fail reward her with it in the event of a divorce, leaving you to not only find another place to live but also pay for that house that you no longer live in. This is ESPECIALLY true if you end up having a kid with her.
If you need a joint signature, yes, go with your parents, and do not listen to their advice when they tell you that you are better off having your wife as the other signature. They're wrong.
Try to get a post-nup. You are the sole provider and this will ensure that you take with you what you brought into the marriage without having to surrender a portion of it for her if you do end up getting divorced.

If she is not okay with any of this, than it just proves her hypergamy and either she can suck it up and stay married or you should just divorce her before you two have kids. Trust me, you're doing yourself a favor to figure this out now.

One thing you have to realize is that there is a possibility that the two of you will call it quits and this is something you need to look into. Having her name on anything or giving her any equity in the marriage that isn't hers, that she hasn't paid for or earned is extremely detrimental to you, as a man, and will certainly cost you equity, meaning you will very likely be forced out of your own house in the case of a divorce, as I stated above (we all know how biased divorce courts are in favor of women - let's be honest here).

Any woman who isn't okay with having to sign an agreement stating that she can't fuck you over in court if this all goes belly-up is doing nothing but showing her true colors, and you're right to do everything you can to protect yourself. Women are absolutely ruthless when they're trying to take half of your shit and she will have no sympathy for you if and when you are no longer married.

Do not believe the fairy tales that you are being fed.

Protect yourself, and get a damn good lawyer for that post-nup.

So which rule did I violate?

Redpillc0re · 2016-05-22T20:02:42+00:00

Did anyone point him to TRP for this kind of discussion? Do your fellow man a favor and help him get real answers next time (using a throwaway obviously)

2016-05-22T20:21:52+00:00

"Beta Hivemind" - That is well-put, Anyway to get this on your side? Usually it's ruled by control over women, We all know this can change by the second.

PlanB_pedofile · 2016-05-23T05:40:54+00:00

Oh those comments. "I never thought about divorce when I signed on my mortgage"

Well I did, and when divorce came i kept the house and was affordable under my income.

With divorce being 50%, this is shit you think about.

These fools dismiss a coinflip of a bet saying "oh it will never happen to me"

"If you need 6 months of emergency money in case you are unable to work, you shouldn't be getting a job" hear how dumb the sounds? But this is the advice in that thread.

MajorStyles · 2016-05-23T22:07:36+00:00

Bumped into an old friend. Long story short, when I knew him, he was going out with some gal. Everybody in our circle had the "He Bad/She Good" mentality.

Now I found out the truth when the relationship has ended. Bitch cheated multiple times, ran him into debt, etc, etc.

Women want complete censorship regarding their actions.

axxxman · 2016-05-26T07:06:14+00:00

[Deleted] due to Reddit policy.

Yourmamasmama · 2016-05-22T04:14:29+00:00

Okay as much as those beta bastards shit on this guy, I fully believe hat he deserves to be insulted at but not for the same reason. Why the fuck would you bring such important matters to fucking Reddit instead of a lawyer? A house costs so much more than a 1 hour meeting with a lawyer and its fucking stupid to post that question on ask men.

chiozette · 2016-05-22T16:25:11+00:00

Lol? If you're scared she's going to wipe your bank account clean, don't marry her. This is a no brainer.

Financial situation is something I'll take into consideration when I start thinking about marriage.

solidsnork · 2016-05-22T00:13:48+00:00

I have never believed in getting married even when I was a young kid but I have to agree to an extent with the poster who said if you are already thinking of divorce you need one.

Why the fuck would you walk into a marriage and already be thinking of the divorce? I mean wouldn't that be enough to say to yourself marriage isn't worth it?

My advice to the guy would be if you are wanting to get married and you want to protect yourself in the divorce then you should consult your wife to be and have her pick out half of all your shit she wants to take when she leaves so you at least you will know what you will be living with afterwards.

Got some buttblasted posters don't we? Keep holding on to your marriage fantasy, you'll get what you deserve.

Title	OP asks how to protect his house and investments in case of divorce. AskMen calls him a paranoid misogynistic shitlord. Welcome to male feminism.
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Date	May 21, 2016 8:33 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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