Closing the Iron Gate

closer_to_the_lung · 2016-05-31T20:40:23+00:00

Your sexuality is then questioned.

Mgtowmike35 · 2016-05-31T22:54:23+00:00

I have drinks thrown on me on a somewhat regular basis lol. Not kidding in the slightest bit.

I guess you could consider me in that 20% group of men (hate that crap though) and NOTHING makes a women angrier than being rejected by one of us.

They are truly a hive mind in the sense that women who have no skin in the game (like family, colleagues gf's/wives, etc) get legitimately angry about me going my own way.

It's as if they have some secret pact to ensure that we don't leave the plantation, regardless of whether or not they are in contention or qualify to be my partner. It's crazy.

trifecta_ · 2016-05-31T23:12:49+00:00

This was from Saturday. I would have never dated her anyway because she told me she "used to" do meth, so I decided to do some lighthearted barbing.

furmensakume · 2016-05-31T21:10:26+00:00

They kind of go through the 5 stages of grief, in a very brief amount of time, sans the acceptance. For example:

Denial: Usually a look of disbelief along with some gawking, perhaps asking you again because maybe you are an idiot and didn't understand her the first time.

Anger: They will ask you "are you gay or something?" and question your manhood, with the nastiest tone.

Bargaining: They'll backpedal a bit, saying things like "omg I wasn't asking you for sex anyway" or "I'm just a normal girl"... basically anything to hamster themselves out of the fact that they just got rejected.

Depression: use your imagination here. This is where the emotions come out. Some pouting, some crying, maybe some screaming, perhaps getting slapped and/or something thrown at you... the sky is the limit depending on how much of a crazy cunt she is.

As for acceptance - well, there is none of that in a woman's mind. The hamster will be spinning the wheel faster than light speed, she will say and do ANYTHING to convince herself that you didn't just reject her. You pretty much want to be at least a mile away by the time she is at this "stage".

Actually, if you find yourself in this situation, bail the fuck out of there as soon as you reject her, nothing good will come from hanging around a woman scorned.

HoldDatCrew · 2016-05-31T22:48:37+00:00

"I must not be pretty enough for you then" They all seem to have self-esteem issues.

Eidolon3436 · 2016-05-31T21:07:54+00:00

It happened to me. This very hot black chick was extremely confused. She then asked if I had a girlfriend. "I do!" "Are you happy?" " Yes. Very." She was the second outright overture I declined while dating that ex-gf. She (exGf) broke up with me on Valentine's Day and I drove home 3 hours through a massive blizzard with all my shit. Reason? Military wouldnt let me be near her. AWALT. I think the chick (who was African American) instantly went to salivating mode when I declined. 6'3" white guy turns down a female. Doesnt even blink. Monogamous Iron Will +3. She would have drained me like a prize chump.

Darth_Bicycle · 2016-05-31T21:18:00+00:00

I pretended not to understand the cues she was giving and then I played the romantic card :”I'd like to meet you again. Go on a date....” etc. That seemed to calm her down. She didn't question my manhood or anything else. The next morning she was banging at my door actually. I pretended I wasn't home. She left a note at the door. I pretended I didn't see it. End of story.

Actually I saw her again once at a grocery store. She didn't say anything, but she looked angry. But after that I never saw her again.

So, I kinda weaseled my way out of it without much problems.

RowdyRoddyPiper · 2016-05-31T23:39:22+00:00

LOL...

They bounce back and forth between:

being "hurt" and depressed -- i.e. the "Don't you love/like me? What is wrong with me... am I so fat, or so ugly that you don't want to fuck me?" reaction.
and being angry/accusatory: "Well there must be something wrong with you (him/me) -- like you have to be gay or something!" shaming reaction.

Both of which are really just attempts to manipulate you -- either to make you want to cuddle/protect/reassure them (i.e. "You're not ugly or fat, [etc.]" when in fact she may very well be both) -- or it's an attempt to get you riled up to assert your masculinity (i.e. the "I'll prove I'm not gay." bullshit; which is equally ridiculous).

When one doesn't work, they try the other, when that doesn't work either, they revert back and try the first one again. Then... as /u/vigz21 noted, they'll eventually try to shrug it off, that they weren't actually trying to seduce you/offer sex, and/or they'll attempt to claim they weren't interested in you/don't find you attractive, etc. (Though I have to say that I disagree with him on the "5 stages" thing, I don't think they EVER reach "acceptance" of it.)

It's really FUN if you start to laugh (chuckle-snort) at their various reactions -- but of course that risks getting them REALLY pissed off -- and is generally best saved for after they're out of earshot.

-- Seriously, they just can't deal with it or think about it RATIONALLY... that you may like her, even find her attractive... and yet NOT want to fuck her because of all of a host of various risks attached (not the least of which is her becoming a mental-emotional basket-case -- which of course happens anyway -- but at least you're not leaving any DNA evidence that she can use as the basis for a rape claim).

And the very idea that a man CAN (much less WILL) be "in control" of his sexual urges -- and will NOT be so readily manipulated/suckered/seduced -- is just something that most chicks have never experienced, and they've been trained to believe isn't possible.

Greetings1 · 2016-06-01T12:39:04+00:00

My ex called me gay when we broke up. I spent spring break with my best guy friend and broke up with her afterwards because I went mgtow. Of course in her mind the only reason that I could ever leave her is because I slept with my friend and am now for the pole not the hole. Women will very rarely ever see themselves as a problem in any situation.

furmensakume · 2016-05-31T23:32:13+00:00

A look of abject horror is the usual response. My go to phrase is, "Unless you have a dick, begone". Only hanging with the fucking bros man.

jezzzaa · 2016-06-01T05:48:56+00:00

Had it happen a few times.

Three occasions stand out in particular.

Out for a beer with a buddy. Two drunken whores invite themselves to join our table. Put up with them for a bit until one picks up my hand and pushes it against her tit. I think I said to her something along the lines of 'saggy, wrinkly, not that great'. My buddy cracks up laughing and to be fair, so does the drunk whore's mate. Drunk whore moves far away from me and mumble something about always getting unlucky with the gay guys in bars. I mumble back about always getting hit on by women over 40 (she was about mid to late 20s). By now my mate is nearly doubled over in laughter. The drunk whores gets up and leave 'us to our date'.

2nd occasion. This woman I met on Tinder. Thought I was being punk'd as she was actually quite gorgeous. Had all these professional-looking photos up there. She admitted to doing some part time modelling. I thought great, a struggling model hooking part time until she snags a rich fuckwit to support her. Anyway, we met up. Ended up having quite a good night but she oozed high maintenance. We went to a few places, met some random people and ended up leaving a club at 7am. Gave her a hug goodbye and she whispered in my ear, asking if I want my dick sucked. I whispered back, 'sorry, you're not my type'. Now I'll own up here fellas, I wouldn't have minded getting a blowie off her but I was drunk, very drunk, and didn't want the drama of trying to get rid of her later that day as she would've stayed over which is not what I want from my Tinder dates. I tell ya, the look on her face would've scared an angry cobra. I got a 'fuck you homo' and she huffed away.

Lastly. I met a Finnish girl at a bar I fucked a few times before. Just a rough old dog I bumped into on occasion. She tried it on, I pushed her away and she started screaming at me. My mate's brother was the bouncer and we waved him over and told him she's on drugs and threatened to shoot us. She got asked to leave. I got called a few unsavoury names, lemme tell ya :D

LombardoSalazaar · 2016-05-31T22:12:19+00:00

I never began rejecting women until long after I swallowed the red pill, and in the minds women I rejected thereafter (almost always women I worked with) they rejected me.

Act like a beta white knight and wait for that eeww look on their face = problem solved.

WellDone321 · 2016-05-31T23:27:11+00:00

What's also interesting is the direction somebody takes when they lose their power over someone. Some people are humbled. Others, not so much.

DanielCaiado · 2016-06-02T20:37:07+00:00

Shock. Some women think they can get away with anything, as soon as she shows herself to be an entitled cunt I just leave.

neautika · 2016-06-02T09:14:03+00:00

I've slept with 34 women. Lost of which were after my divorce in 2012. I LITERALLY initiated sex with one of them. I'm not bragging or am some amazing pick up line guy. The point being the woman are the ones acting like sluts these days. Pointing out men like we are predators while they put on some good girl act. At this time in my life it also seems like this pattern was happening to all my good guy friends to the point I was questioning some 2012 weirdness fucking up women's heads.

The irony is I'm in labor and delivery with my girlfriend right now. God help my soul...

Mgtowredpillonroids · 2016-06-02T15:10:05+00:00

Don't know because I just go ghost on them. When they get my phone messenger app ID I chat with them using one-liners and generally babble about the most mundane shit ever. 100% success rate so far. Unless you're an 8-10/10 Chad you're not going to be any chick's long-term interest anyway and they have short attention spans. If you feel the need to turn them down just for shit's and giggles, be my guest. My method is hazzle free and works.

Trekbiker · 2016-06-03T13:54:02+00:00

I never turned down sex from an attractive woman. Did turn down sex a few times from unattractive women (even when drunk)

Never married one either. I recognized the plantation for what it was at an early age and steered clear.

Sizzle_Biscuit · 2016-06-03T14:44:48+00:00

I refused to have sex with a virgin because I could tell she was crazy, and she proceeded to prove me right by getting all uppity when I turned her down.

She proceeded to get pregnant by the first guy she ever slept with and now has a baby with him. They are both miserable.

I dodged a Scud missile. Thank fuck.

RowdyRoddyPiper · 2016-06-03T02:26:27+00:00

I thought "hell hath no fury..." was just a saying until the last few years...

The_Beardy_Man · 2016-06-03T17:47:00+00:00

She got confused when I deviated from the script she had in mind, and started repeating her offer of sex like a broken record.

2016-06-01T19:54:09+00:00

Once an semi attractive asian girl about 5'1-2 with an athletic/borderline dike build tried pushing one of my pressure points near my v-line. When she did i shrieked and ran away like a little pussy to tell my friends..Long after one of the friends i told at the party tells me shes been telling him why she thinks i'm gay.. all bs reasons but I understand why and give her a pass. It wasn't my proudest moment. Many more example of turning down girls or rejecting/staying oblivious to blatant attempts at flirting with intent every time looking back i have regretted it even though in the moment I told my self i'm too good for this.

givecake · 2016-06-03T07:11:29+00:00

Everything went to hell..

2016-06-03T12:45:35+00:00

I wish I could get an attractive woman to hit on me. Hell I wish I could get an ugly woman to hit on me. Once I hit 50 it all dried up. No I lie. There is a 30 year old with 2 kids hitting on me all the time but I don't count it because she lives with her parents and does not drive.

2016-06-03T17:59:30+00:00

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E46M54 · 2016-06-04T11:26:10+00:00

Women don't seem to understand I can buy the same wet hole for $70.

If you want to get with me, you had better bring something more to the table.

Sadly, most women bring nothing else of value to the table; only headaches.

Hproff25 · 2016-06-05T18:23:05+00:00

One of my favorite college moments was when I was at a bar a 9/10 came up to me as I was ordering and asked if I wanted to buy her a drink. I looked at her said no got my rum and coke and when I left she had this pissy look on her face that made me laugh.

aanarchist · 2016-06-06T05:26:21+00:00

anger depression, the 5 stages of grief.

throwawaynoidea1984 · 2016-06-03T06:56:49+00:00

I've got such a broad and varied/unusual range of life experiences and current aspirations that I'm fulfilling that people just associate it as part of the eccentric package that is me, so I get away with it.

Title	Closing the Iron Gate
Author	WellDone321
Upvotes	43
Comments	79
Date	May 31, 2016 8:28 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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