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[+]lurkerhasarisen20 points [recovered] (25 children) | Copy Link
I've said this before: the problem a lot of women have after having ridden the carousel is that she creates an ideal man in her mind that no flesh-and-blood man can match. He'll be a romanticized amalgamation of the most desirable traits from all of those men. As rich as the richest guy, as funny as the funniest guy, as driven as the hardest-charging guy, as attentive as the guy who made the grandest gestures, as exciting as the most impulsive guy, and as steady as the most serious guy.
The fact that no one man can be all of those is of little significance... indeed, the fact that some of those traits directly contradict each other is of little consequence. Why? Because feminism is based on the idea that whatever a woman perceives to be in her immediate interest is all that matters. We see it in the demand to be simultaneously treated like an equal and treated like a lady. Insisting on the right to vote but without the obligations of military service or even taxation is a macro example.
At the micro level, a woman who has extensive experience (especially intimate experience) with many men will find herself unable to be content with any one man. It's not because any one man is inadequate, or that men are intimidated by "strong" women... it's that trying to please such a woman is a fool's errand. The "man" he's competing against isn't even real. Hes a mind-reading, idealized, ever-changing-but-never-aging mishmash of the best traits of every man she's ever been with.
Nobody tells women that they need to be the best at everything to be worthy of a man. In fact, women are generally told that all they need is a pulse. If that were not true we wouldn't see so many average and below-average women convinced that they deserve men with traits that only a tiny subset of men possess. If you look at the list of requirements women routinely put in their dating profiles, it's not at all unusual to see them eliminate upwards of 99% of men, with some profiles eliminating literally every man on Earth.
It's the paradox of choice: endless options and extensive sexual experience makes them miserable.
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[+]gimpgirl5551 points [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
No offense bud: but have you ever had sex with men?
Most guys out there are not rich, funny, attentive, porn studs. If they were, many women would be on tinder begging men for casual sex.
9/10 men are mediocre at best, and usually disappointing. Even if the guy is great (and some guys are) women don't appreciate sex with men anyway.
The carousel is the price that women pay for being able to troll for rich guys (that they never find btw).
Before the carousel women had to get married and stay married.
After the carousel, women get to try to trade up for as long as they live. But the price is that they have to have pre-marital sex.
Look at how women feel after they have ridden the carousel: used, bitter, angry with men. This should tell you that the carousel is not a fun ride for women. Most women pretend that it's great, because it's pathetic to admit that they have been pumped & dumped by losers.
Here's an obv fact that most people ignore: rich, funny, attentive, studs are taken. They're not on tinder giving out free helicopter rides and great sex to mediocre women.
Even if they were, the women on the carousel are too stupid to date those men. Understand that you're talking about female losers and idiots getting pumped & dumped by guys living with their moms. Nothing of value is being exchanged on the carousel.
[+]lurkerhasarisen1 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
No offense, honey, but have you ever been a guy a woman threw herself at?
I have... I'm no "Chad" and I'm not talking about a lot of different women, but if you think women view sex with men they find attractive as a "price" they have to "pay" to get commitment, you haven't been paying attention to how your fellow women act. I've seen college chicks literally line up to dance with a really good-looking guy in a group of lieutenants I went clubbing with.
I work with a group of guys (we're in our 50s), and we travel for work so we eat out together all the time. We have nicknamed one of the guys "The Waitress Whisperer" because of the way women act around him when we're out. They're not doing it for tips, otherwise they would act the way they do for all of us... and It's not just waitresses, either: I've seen him get cold-approached by female patrons more than once.
Women throw themselves at men they find attractive with little regard for securing commitment from those men.
It's been shown time and time again that women find about 20% of men to be above average in appearance, and while some of those women may be disappointed in the short term - and many of them may be filled with self-loathing in the long term - they'll keep going back like moths to a flame. I've seen it, and every guy here has seen it, too.
You make some interesting points that I don't have time to address because I have to go to work now, but I agree with parts of what you wrote. Maybe I'll come back to this later.
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You have no idea what you're talking about. Women throw sex at attractive men all the time, and the idea that women display "provider" status - rather than sexual availability - to men they want is too ridiculous to even bother to answer.
Also, look at the famous OKCupid study about how men and women rate each other. Women are more focused on looks than men are.
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"Dad, what's a woman's virginity?"
I dunno, son. Never heard of it...
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Virginity is so simple it's disturbing that there is anyone out there who can't understand it. When you are in love with someone you don't want them to have had sex with other people. When you love someone you would never do that to them. You would only have sex with them. If you do it before you meet you already ruined your ability to truly love them.
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