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After a 20 year cover-up, the BBC finally acknowledges how false rape accusations cause suicides

JohnKimble111

September 11, 2020
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https://hequal.wordpress.com/2020/09/11/after-a-20-year-cover-up-the-bbc-finally-acknowledges-how-false-rape-accusations-cause-suicides/
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Title After a 20 year cover-up, the BBC finally acknowledges how false rape accusations cause suicides
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JohnKimble111

Upvotes 711
Comments 22
Date September 11, 2020 7:31 AM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/iqm14x/after_a_20_year_coverup_the_bbc_finally/
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[–]JohnKimble111[S] 112 points113 points114 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Almost certainly this year’s token effort from the BBC in terms of gender equality for men, but still a welcome development none the less.

[–]swejap 29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

a welcome development

Yeah, no kidding. I was over on your site, Hequal, reading the post and it was a great read. Good news indeed, and if you say they did a good job, then I know they did a good job.

Thank you for your work. Even if we only get tokens, if they are high quality with solid facts, they are immensely valuable as references and to spread awareness.

I hope others will consider becoming longtime donors to you too, like me. Considering the power state medias have, you do important work.

[–]redditthrowaway1478 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. Gratitude for a small victory today is best.

This movement has had reputation for being bitter and angry in the past. It behooves us to demonstrate a “righteous stoicism” in the face of adversity AND success.

[–]Wisemanner 63 points64 points65 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Note this bit: Most importantly of all, we’re told that false allegations are only officially recorded if the accuser ADMITS their complaint was untrue. This fact in itself utterly destroys so many feminist arguments about statistics on this issue and it clearly shows such official statistics are therefore a nonsense.

[–]Rockbottom503 24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, I've been denigrated for years for pointing this out in confrontations with feminists. They complain about how many rape accusations aren't tried but when you point out that they're not, typically because of a lack of evidence which, if we were talking about any other offence, would be interpreted as a clear indication of innocence for the accused; and that there's a chance a high number of these could actually be false accusations aswell, all of a sudden you're complicit in rape itself as an 'apologist' for your lack of blind belief in the supposed victims.

[–]anons-a-moose 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not that official statistics are nonsense and unusable, it's just that we need to recognize that there is likely a large number of men that are't included in it.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Although this documentary is highly welcome, my opinion of the BBC its a case of too little too late. The amount of harm that institution has done, from a blatant wokeness, anti male, anti white agenda to covering up Paedo's and multiple sex offenders in it's ranks, to ruthlessly going after pensioners for the License Fee, to throwing countless people in Jail for non payment of the License Fee...Sorry, IMHO it should be disbanded asap and I'm thankful to say the majority of the UK public are starting to feel the same.

[–]skgody 21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is where I chime in and say that false rape accusations are worse than rape.

[–]mikesteane 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Most people would disagree with you, but you are so obviously right.

[–]skgody 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The post is also on the egalitarian sub and you can imagine that people would be seeing things equal there but no people just go with the no brain idea that rape is worse than false accusations. Even explaining that false accusations doesn’t come with a 20 year jail sentence and that prison is a really fucking awful place to be. And that most people after doing a long sentence never recover financially. Let alone the psychological damage. Without the toll of lossing so much of your time and in this case people are losing their life.

[–]HCEandALP4ever 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

(crossposted to egalitarianism)

If we're going to compare the two, remember that if you're in prison it's highly likely that you yourself will be raped -- repeatedly. So a false accusation that results in a prison sentence delivers to that person all the horrible consequences of false accusations already mentioned in this thread, *plus* the likelihood of being repeatedly raped yourself.

[–]skgody 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought it would bad enough getting abducted at gun point chained up by the police and taken to jail would be bad enough. We know that jail is a place of unchecked violence but when you add prison rape to it then it’s even worse. An innocent person deliberately being placed where they will be raped is like the accuser is responsible for the rape.

[–]keepe_r 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was extremely surprised to discover the BBC, who are typically misandristic, broadcasting I Am Not a Rapist last night, albeit at 22:45.

Considering that Liam Allen's case is probably the most famous ever case of a false accusation of rape in the United Kingdom, I was shocked and disgusted by the revelation that even his case wasn't recorded as a false accusation. This fact completely undermines the statistics that radical feminists endlessly repeat. Of course, anyone with any sense has known for some time that the majority of those statistics are either misleading or false.

Mirror: https://www.dropbox.com/s/060l91pd9dkffzh

[–]Wisemanner 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't watch the programme and so didn't know that Liam Allen's case wasn't recorded as a false accusation. But it doesn't surprise me. They also refused to change the de Freitas case to one of false accusation when it because evident that was what it was. The reason, of course, it to support the politically correct claim that false accusations are rare. They also shunt 14% of proven false rape accusations into a group they call "no crime" to again keep the figures low. Did they mention "no crime".

[–]Vetinery 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Before I even say this I have to preface with the remark “rape is a terrible crime”. The most damaging thing about rape has been the social stigma the victim faces and that is “you are forever damaged and traumatized”. I’m not saying that victims have to “just get over it”, but to the extent that they are at risk of the event becoming their identity, it is important. People are not going to like this, but I said not to lessen the severity of the crime but rather to reduce the impact on the victim. I’m hoping as a society that we’ve crossed through a real low point in how we deal with rape. There’s been a cultural shift over the last hundred years from it being something you just never tell anyone to the recognition that it’s happened to a lot of other women. In between, there has been a mixed expectation that a woman should declare the crime, and also be permanently scared by it. This expectation that your life is forever destroyed, very often does a great deal of the damage. As for men who rape, we need to take the extremely difficult step of recognizing that a great deal if the problem has been caused by creating unhealthy societies where sex is used as a reward and control. All of the judaic cultures codify women as property. Today, It’s still very much a condition that if you follow the rules, you may be rewarded with a woman. This sounds so unreal, but it’s so common we don’t even think about it. It’s policed by the simple subtext: if our woman marry/have sex outside the rules/religion, they lose social status within the community. In short, there is so much religious/culture/gender politics wrapped up in rape, we are fighting an epic uphill battle to deal with it in a rational manner making accusation a terribly easily abused weapon.

[–]Greg_W_Allan 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The most damaging thing about rape has been the social stigma the victim faces and that is “you are forever damaged and traumatized”.

Didn't work that way for me. I was a liar and misogynist because I implicated a woman as a child sexual abuser.

[–]notajoey 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Very thought-provoking...!

[–]omegaphallic 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Outstanding. Crossposting this.

[–]Bad_Routes 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wanna say that thats crazy but I'm not surprised

[–]EastEndMontrealer1 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Small step in the right direction

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So, for us in the US, how do we watch?

[–]Svenskbtch 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As long as there are single issues and you can clearly avoid anything approaching an overall MRA spin, BBC and their likes actually do pick these issues up every once in a while. Rape of men in war-time Congo, disenfranchised fathers, male rape victims - they all get coverage, although of course much less than for female victims and without any hint in the direction of, say, male victimhood overall.

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