What's the difference between this sub and r/MensLib?

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2019-06-06T17:31:59+00:00

Pretty much everything?

They're a feminist sub cosplaying as mensrights.

All sorts of men's issues are banned from discussion over there because they aren't about advancing women over men.

Pretty much all you are allowed to discuss is how toxic men are.

azazelcrowley · 2019-06-06T18:54:12+00:00

Mens lib thinks everything can be fixed if we just admire women more and all mens problems are a result of feminist womens narcissistic supply issues.

Why aren't men fathers more often?

Is it vilification of men by feminist hate campaigns? Their deliberate undermining of the role of fathers during the 60s, 70s, and 80s by spreading blood libels about men being more rapey and domestically violent (based on their cooked statistics)? Their active campaign to cast fathers as unnecessary and superfluous at best with their championing of single motherhood and dangerous and detrimental at worst? Their deliberate stacking of the deck against men in custody disputes, divorce law, and so on?

No, it's simply that we don't celebrate mothers enough and if we did that, men would want to be dads. (Please ignore men already want to be dads. Making the problem worse by excessively celebrating mothers and thus making them seem better at it than dads is not possible, no, we're not ill and we don't belong an asylum like humanity initially suspected.)

Basically it's full of women with a narcissistic personality disorder (feminists), and men who are unwilling/unable to confront the fact they were raised by women with this disorder and are struggling to rationalize it.

Feminism is less so an ideology and more akin to a schizophrenics conspiracy theory. It's an intricate rationalization of a mental illness. The women are wonderful effect demonstrates in empirical terms that the problem is most certainly not "People don't respect women enough", but facts don't matter to them, because no amount of "RESPECTING" women will satisfy them, because the problem is not external, it is internal.

This is obvious when you take a critical view of their ravings such as the above one. They always think the problem is women need more respect and admiration, even when that's incoherent and doesn't align with reality.

This is merely one example of an issue where the "It's all misogyny, feminism got it right all along" idea is incoherent and self-defeating. It is a dynamic that repeats on every issue they touch, such as domestic violence and rape.

Why don't men come forward?

Is it the deliberate undermining of mens rights on these issues by the feminist movement through figures like Mary Koss and the Duluth Model? Their push for zero tolerance on DV with an eye toward maximizing the number of "Female victims" saved, even in situations where both parties are abusive? Their constant framing of the issue as male perpetrated and vicious villification of people who bring up false accusations? (False accusations being a primary tool of female rapists)?

No, it's simply that men don't respect and admire women enough and if they did, they'd come forward.

It's illness mate.

The difference between the MRM and mens lib, is mens lib have a mental illness. The pattern of behavior feminism displays is one of a narcissistic abuser, and their adherents display the symptoms too.

It is not a coincidence this wave got rolling in part out of that cesspit of mental illness, Tumblr. A critical mass of narcissistic personality disordered folk got together. That's all.

bufedad · 2019-06-06T18:25:50+00:00

MensLib once let men who were raped by women tell their story.

They literally put a women's feelings requirement/limitation on rape victims telling their story.

NAWALT_VADER · 2019-06-06T19:36:54+00:00

MensLib is a feminist forum pretending to be a Men's Rights forum.

[deleted] · 2019-06-06T18:10:05+00:00

Never checked out menslib. By the comment above with the upvotes in the duration the post has been up it sounds super fishy. From what I can see the male subreddits breakdown as follows: Mensrights: sick of double standards MGTOW: screwed so badly by women they're literally saying "fuck women I'm ok on my own". INCEL: sick of lack of sex Theredpill: telling other men what works and what doesn't work, basically a bunch of socially inept men trying to learn from each other.

And the last 2 have been quarantined before. Wouldn't be surprised if MGTOW gets quarantined at some point. The people who run Reddit seem to have a serious feminist agenda from the looks of it. Fuck Donald Trump all you want but if you dare say negative things about women they'll take away your forum. Some patriarchy. Ceo of Reddit looks like your typical feminist too 😂

tenchineuro · 2019-06-06T23:05:51+00:00

Menslib is basically feminism for men. The posters there are feminist sympathizers I guess, since men can't really be feminists. So they apparently need a space for male feminist sympathizers so that the feminists will still feel safe in their own space.

Zekuro · 2019-06-06T19:36:16+00:00

(I haven't frequented much MensLibs ; those are only my impressions)

MensLib is a pro-feminist community and follows their general guidelines. The most important one is banning everything they don't like and avoiding subject that go too much against feminism. So, well, they are male feminists talking about men's rights...

But in practice, I would say that...

MensRights is about the inequalities and discrimination faced by men based on gender in the modern world. Obviously, we can't speak about gender equality without speaking about both men and women
MensLibs is about men's issues only, without the gender equality part, and they don't bring women into the equation (exception : we can talk about women there if we say very good things about them).

For example, the draft and right to vote, the thing that says 'Women are granted vote right by birth ; men are voted vote right if they sign for draft...If they don't? Ahahahah'. Here's what I imagine from the two subs :

MensLibs : it is a men's issue ! let's remove the draft!
MensRights : well, draft might be necessary. If we can remove draft without danger, great, but until then let's make it gender neutral.

Having said that, it's not as awful a place as some people here say it is. On the other hand, it is definitely not a place I frequent or comment in, since I don't like being careful about what I write in fear of getting censored.

By the way, MensLibs consider MensRights as a hate sub. One more reason for which I can't comment on MensLbs.

DubsPackage · 2019-06-06T20:48:23+00:00

Not much

All the menslib types are in this forum concern trolling

Title	What's the difference between this sub and r/MensLib?
Author	TC1827
Upvotes	12
Comments	18
Date	June 6, 2019 5:29 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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