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Replying to all women who tell me they think they're living in "The Handmaid's Tale". If you can watch "The Handmaids Tale" you don't live in it!

jondavidbrooks

July 3, 2018
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/r/MensRights
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-handmaids-tale-is-way-too-real-and-watching-it-has-become-masochistic
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Title Replying to all women who tell me they think they're living in "The Handmaid's Tale". If you can watch "The Handmaids Tale" you don't live in it!
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jondavidbrooks

Upvotes 250
Comments 55
Date July 3, 2018 5:29 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8vu39v/replying_to_all_women_who_tell_me_they_think/
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[–]DavidByron2 72 points73 points74 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

And if you can live in the Handmaid's Tale you're a privileged female there, because that story has most of the men dead, and the rest sent off to war to die. But of course just as in real life the feminists compare the lowliest woman with the best treated male in that fictional society and say "sexism". The reality is the "Handmaid's Tale" world treats women better than it treats men.

[–]Rethgil 52 points53 points54 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

feminists compare the lowliest woman with the best treated male

Boom.

Summed up everything wrong with modern feminism in one sentence.

[–]awksomepenguin 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The apex fallacy at work.

[–]lookafist 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

feminists compare the lowliest woman with the best treated male in that fictional society and say "sexism"

As long as there's one man who has a good life and one woman who doesn't, we live in a misogynist society. That's what equality means -- women get taken care of first.

[–]fengpi 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

My understanding is that the Commander in the book is a complex antagonist but the one in the TV show is just a cartoon villain.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's not true at all, the Commander walks around with a permanent "how the fuck did we get here" look on his face. He's basically as powerless and trapped as his Handmaid, just wrapped in luxury.

[–]fengpi 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I haven't watched the show and I don't plan on it.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The second season is insulting I how often it drops "4th wall breaking" winks to the audience, saying things like "yeah, we all wish we could move to Canada"

[–]McFeely_Smackup 22 points23 points24 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The Handmaids Tale is disturbingly transparent victim fetish porn and I get why it's popular with a segment of the population prone to this kind of thing.

What I don't get is how people can watch the show, and miss 90% of it.

What they see is "women are oppressed". They don't seem to see that it's a Totalitarian Theocracy government and EVERYONE is oppressed by those in power, and many of the oppressors are women.

Did they miss that when the Handmaids are being raped, they're being held down by women? They are disciplined by women, daily life and imprisonment overseen by women.

Did they miss that nearly every episode features men being summarily executed, shot in the head, hung and left to rot...women who transgress, even seriously, are not killed but at worst sent to "the colonies".

Hell the Commander's wife Serena literally commits treason, and is punished with a spanking.

The overwhelming theme is none of these people are happy with the state of affairs, they're all victimized by the Theocracy but somehow people seem to see only how it affects the women...and only a small number of them.

[–]bakedpotato486 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish I could confirm what you're saying without sitting down and watching dozens of hours of fiction.

[–]Rethgil 20 points21 points22 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is why I hate this show and book-its squarely aimed at victim feminism supporters who psychotically go around like huffy teenagers blaming men for all their problems despite living in comparative privilege.

[–]SpiritofJames 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Margaret Atwood is delusionally misandric.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most feminists are.

[–]HiredMind 30 points31 points32 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Please stop giving these assholes ad revenue.

[–]by_myself 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can't archive.org / archive.is be used for these so that we aren't giving them ad revenue, or is there some reason that isn't done?

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

It was never like that, even when abortion was illegal.

[+]HeyLookItsaMoose -13 points-12 points-11 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Abortion is illegal, but I live in Arkansas. I'm not saying your intent was wrong, but your example about abortion isn't correct in many places.

[–]tenchineuro 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Abortion is illegal, but I live in Arkansas.

Check the news.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/395339-federal-judge-blocks-arkansas-restrictions-on-medication-abortion

Federal judge blocks enforcement of anti-abortion law in Arkansas

A federal judge temporarily blocked a law that critics say would make Arkansas the first state to ban abortion pills.

U.S. District Judge Kristine Baker issued a preliminary injunction Monday evening in favor of Planned Parenthood.

The 2015 law requires that doctors who provide medical abortions have a contract with a second doctor who has admitting privileges at a hospital. The injunction prevents the state from enforcing the law, but abortion clinics must continue trying to contract with physicians.

So it looks like they did not outlaw abortion per se, just abortion pills, apparently also known as 'medical abortion' according to the article.

[–]HeyLookItsaMoose 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've thankfully been misled by people in my state, and regretfully admit ignorance in what I thought I was knowledgeable. I should have researched this more before metaphorically running my mouth. Seriously though, I am deeply joyous that I wasn't right (this time), and wish I could thank you more for enlightening me. Sorry if I misinformed anyone between points a and c.

[–]tenchineuro 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've thankfully been misled by people in my state, and regretfully admit ignorance in what I thought I was knowledgeable.

Unless I recall wrong, the article mentioned above was posted the very same day I quoted it, so you were probably partly right when you posted, I mean the law did not ban abortion per se.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm saying in 1950 religious trad c on America it was never as bad as the TV show is.

[–]fengpi 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The author of the book believes that Puritanism is the underlying religious tradition which holds sway over the American masses. It’s completely ignorant. Plus, the so-called Christian whackos in the book never mention the word “Jesus” anywhere, but who needs to know anything about Christianity if you want to portray Christian whackos?

[–]McFeely_Smackup 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The religion portrayed in the show is not Christianity, it's an extreme Theocracy based on the old Testament, at least that's all the bible they even quote

[–]fengpi 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Puritan Christianity was the inspiration for the book. So it's a made up religion, then. Not Judaism or Christianity, but something else that uses "the bible", but not the second half of the bible, which is what distinguishes the former from the latter. Does it use a cross anywhere?

Does this religion have a name? The only thing that comes close is Islam, but god no we can't ever say that out loud because that's phobic.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://archive.is/I22uB

[–]Jerzeem 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I thought Handmaid's Tale was a metaphor for the draft.

[–]Dark_Moose 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Now that would be a interesting analysis and intrepratation. How did you come to that conclusion?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What is it with these people and constant hyperbole?

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

Women wish they could have children and avoid having to work like in the Handmaidens Tale, that's the real truth to all this.

White woman are heavily obsessed with victimhood and it's created a sociopathic and misanthropic generation, and the success of this TV show is proof of that.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

It's porn on the level of 50 Shades

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

It is, it's victim porn and white women watch it for the same reason they le about rape. White women have built their entire personality around the concept of victimhood and oppression, and they actually want to experience being a "victim".

Society really needs to talk about white women.

[–]TrumpwonHilDawgLost 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

To be fair , not all white women believe what you describe. There are millions of conservative/ right leaning women. Not all women are hypocritical unhinged left-tards

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

All white women, at least in Anglo societies, grow up with the historical background of chivalry and victimhood, whatever political views they form later in life.

Not all white women may end up with the victimhood complex, but its basically unique to white women and very, very widespread. Its basically defines their character and inner psychological makeup.

All white women grow up seeing images of damsels in distress and disposable men who ought to save them, and those women are only ever identified as white women. You just don't see pathology in other races, even though women may experience actual oppression women in the west have never faced.

[–]Ninagram 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I’m a white woman and I literally fought all day with 4 feminists on Facebook over the white woman victim bullshit. I provided arguments for why men have it worse than white women as a whole and it got ugly, especially when a male feminist joined the argument. Anyway I’m just saying we don’t all buy into the victimhood crap. As far as I can tell white women are the most privileged group in America.

[–]fengpi 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

especially when a male feminist joined the argument.

Those people are made of cringe and nails on chalkboards.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Out of interest were the four feminists white by any chance?

[–]Ninagram 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

One black and one Hispanic, two whites, and two white feminist men actually. Black one was nicest and most reasonable. The rudest were the men, I find when I argue with male feminists they get really ugly and fling insults, I’m not sure why that is.

[–]fengpi 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I find when I argue with male feminists they get really ugly and fling insults, I’m not sure why that is.

They need to prove themselves worthy of the shiny tin Male Feminist Badge which they wear with pride and can also be taken-away at the slightest faux pas.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because male feminists abuse women, you didn't know that?

[–]bakedpotato486 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Gee, I'm glad you shared your 4-to-1 ratio anecdote to prove the preponderance of ... wait, what?

[–]Ninagram 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wasn’t trying to prove anything, what can you prove with N=5?

[–]TrumpwonHilDawgLost 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

You’re wrong and teetering on sounding like an incel :/

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

The facts about white women say otherwise, but feel free to ignore them.

[–]TrumpwonHilDawgLost 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Not ignoring, you’re just being absolutely ridiculous. What you commented certainly was not “facts”

I’m willing to guess you’re single

[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Just because you are offended by something doesn't make it untrue.

And all smart men are single, why would I want a cunt smelling up my house?

[–]TrumpwonHilDawgLost 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You give this sub and the current “men’s rights” movement in general a terrible name.

No sense in even continuing conversation with you anymore as you’re delusion and unhinged view of humans in general is absurd.

Single by choice? (Doubtful )

[–]TrumpwonHilDawgLost 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m not offended my friend. Not in the slightest

[–]bakedpotato486 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women could have children and avoid having to work like [I assume they do] in the Handmaid's Tale. They just have to work like men do while allowing the men to do the handmaid's work. It's such solipsistic bullshit.

[–]armed_renegade 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Women in the Tale can't write, so the fact she's writing this and posting it on the internet goes to show...

[–]lookafist 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Also that she's not been forced into servitude in a patriarchal theocratic society ought to be a tip-off.

[–]armed_renegade 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I don't know how anyone can watch that and think anything other than "wow this is awful, glad this has hasn't happened" and I'm in disbelief how anyone can even think that is what life is like now.... you'd have to be delusional, and having a current, persisting state of psychosis...

Although I liked that comedians (whatsherface) comment at the white house dinner that Mike Pence watches that and secretly wants it (or not so secretly)

[–]orcscorper 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just want to slap the shit out of anyone who uses the "word" latinx. It's not a word. You don't actually pronounce it "latinks". They want to say latino/latina to respect latino/latina culture, while glossing over a major component of latino culture: gendered nouns! They get to be inclusive of all brown people who speak Spanish, but still pretend that the Spanish language isn't sexist AF. It's fucking embarrassing.

[–]Ninagram 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They stopped talking to me after I started telling them how women were on Wall Street during 9/11.

[–]kantomasterspencer 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The daily beast has, and always will be trash. It's the national review of the left.

[–]Just4yourpost 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm so fucking sick of seeing this shit on Leftist Social Media suffering from TDS. People are getting eaten and killed half way across the world but poor white collar college ed lib arts woman can't stand a Republican in office so suddenly they're living in their worst Dystopian Nightmare!! Oh the Horror!

Would be nice to see someone make a show about the last pockets of white people trying to ink out a secret existence against the rest of the world and it's PC PoC that have turned Western Civilization into 'Elysium'.

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