Hilarious Guardian wants men to stop going MGTOW and start having children with old women instead. How about Nope.

HeForeverBleeds · 2017-07-06T03:58:59+00:00

I guess personal preference might play a role, but I think women 30+ are usually already past their peak. But I'm 26, so maybe my ideas will change when I'm 30+ (when I was 16 I thought women passed their peak at around college aged)

Either way, I don't get older women who are irritated by men who prefer younger women. It's like: welcome to the world of Not Everyone You're Attracted to Is Attracted to You Back. Apparently most males live in this stage all their lives

I think females get pampered because when they're young and hot, they get all kinds of guys chasing them (including good-looking who ones they like), but then once guys no longer show as much interest, there's a big issue because they're not used to it

Hey, get used to it, woman. You're not entitled for men to like you

Ordinate1 · 2017-07-06T03:05:31+00:00

Infertility breaks hearts.

As a man who was tricked into being a father and had my life utterly destroyed by a vicious woman, this phrase just set me off.

Yea, it must suck to miss your opportunity to have children, but being tricked or coerced into having them is worse.

I have an aunt and uncle who chose not to have children, and they often express regret.... as they flit around the world, spending half the year on vacation in exotic locations.

Meanwhile, I live in a hovel because my career was ruined and the only jobs I can find with a physics degree and 10 years of experience in I.T. is pizza delivery and bicycle repair.

furchfur · 2017-07-06T07:46:03+00:00

This is propaganda. A males fertility hardly drops at all with age. Mick Jagger, Rod stewart etc etc. The Guardian wants to support a theory in the main stream that men must pair off early since it suits their narrative.

Do not fall for it guys, your fertility does not drop at all.

mymraccount_ac · 2017-07-06T08:39:45+00:00

And then you spot a man in the corner. He is hunched. He is lined. He is grey. He looks up. His eyes light up. Your heart sinks. If you’re a woman over 40 who has tried internet dating, you have probably been here at least once. The photo is fine. Or at least the photo is OK. He is not George Clooney. But you are not Scarlett Johansson, and you are not 25. Look, he has, or seems to have, his own hair. He has, or seems to have, his own teeth.

Pure denigrating objectification. And she wonders why men aren't interested. The author sounds like a horrible person with a hatred for men.

Ultramegasaurus · 2017-07-06T04:35:06+00:00

It's not just their fertility, a lot of these older, chronically single women are unpleasant partners with high demands, anger issues etc.

JohnKimble111 · 2017-07-06T06:25:48+00:00

Use an archive please.

thrway_1000 · 2017-07-06T03:55:32+00:00

https://archive.is/gTQFn

disayle32 · 2017-07-06T11:15:06+00:00

Women hold absolute power in today's dating world. And absolute power corrupts absolutely. If you're not Chad Thundercock, the juice is simply not worth the squeeze. The only real power you have is to say "fuck it all" and walk away. Women could change the game if they wanted to. They could kick out the Chads and actually start giving their best years to the "good men" for once. But they don't want to, 'cause Chad is HAWT!

User-31f64a4e · 2017-07-06T03:05:38+00:00

I was first told that I was “past my peak” by a dating agency when I was 36

Wow, it took a decade before anyone would tell her the obvious truth about the wall.
With women this deluded, is it any wonder we're in the mess we are in?

Still, near the end she actually makes a bit of sense:

Perhaps this research will remind us that we all need to be a bit more honest about the choices we face. Do we wait for Barack Obama or Angelina Jolie, or go with Mr or Ms Good Enough?

Do we go for the healthy baby in the rented flat or risk no baby by waiting for the mortgage or the house? Do we, in other words, live in the world as we would like it to be, or the world as it is?

Alas, the world as it is fails to be politically correct; only the world as it should (but never can) be appeals to the SJWs and feminists now running society.

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What is also notable in this article is the illogical assumption that because male fertility declines with age, men should no longer seek younger women.
It takes longer to have children if you are an older man? OMG, better not date a young hottie and fuck a whole lot then!
Greater odds of unhealthy children? Well, how will going with an older women help that?

Women's fertility hits a hard wall. Male fertility tapers. The stupid author of this article somehow thinks men should be forced to just give up at the same age as women do or something.

Beyond stupid, like most of what is in ~~The Communist~~ The Guardian.

_exitus_acta_probat_ · 2017-07-06T14:11:37+00:00

Despite her not-so-subtle digs against men, this made me pity her a bit. I've never read a more desperate plea for male attention, a ring on the finger, a penis in the vagina and a baby in the womb in my life.

If you read up on her, she was all education and career oriented in her youth - probably a product of feminism who wanted to be so much more than a mother and wife - but now all she craves and pleads for is to be a mother and a wife.

Is it any wonder why the female happiness index has decreased suchs taggering amounts since the liberation of women...

You can't change instinct and biology, but you can fight them for decades to the detriment of your own mental health.

Feminism makes women unhappy... feminism is cancer for society and our civilization.

Maxlifts · 2017-07-06T13:42:04+00:00

What raises my eyebrows is the fact that she used infertility as an excuse as to why men must date women their own age. "Womens being infertile means their past their prime at 35+, but look it happens to mens too!"

News flash, old guys don't date young women because their so fertile, in fact the exact opposite, they DON'T want any more kids. And notice how the author says nothing about these young women who CHOOSE to date old rich guys because of the lifestyle they can provide them. Jeez someone is jelly.

asillyduck_ · 2017-07-06T09:03:43+00:00

Comments from the guys are entertaining, on the article. The men generally of course see through it. Even if some are ... stuck.

fengpi · 2017-07-06T03:16:48+00:00

I was first told that I was “past my peak” by a dating agency when I was 36

Nuh uh, girlfriend! You're gonna keep on rocking forever!

Forever!

Forever!

For! Ev! Er!

Lethn · 2017-07-06T11:00:51+00:00

I just want one of these stupid idiots to come out of their safe spaces, just once, so I can say, you feminists dug your graves now you can fucking lie in it.

That will never happen though which is why this idiot writing this article is working for the Guardian and why she is surrounded by sycophants and why they can keep on writing their bullshit and have all their friends agree with it constantly.

Break down their safe spaces, break down their delusions, that is how we expose them to reality.

Troubleshooter11 · 2017-07-06T12:05:00+00:00

A 45 year old man having kids with a 30 year old woman is still a hell of a lot less risky than the other way around. Even though sperm degrades, men simply have a decade more time than women when it comes to producing healthy offspring.

Besides. As a male, having kids past 45 is irresponsible and not practical unless you are loaded and can retire early or afford to have your kid raised by nannies or butlers. Who wants to be a fulltime worker in his 60's or 70's and deal with a teenager? Only the rich and famous can do that easily.

I'm 33 and would only date women in the 23-31 range because of women's fertility degrading faster than male fertility. A former colleague of mine met and had kids with a 38 year old women within 2 years of meeting and shortly afterwards got dumped. I want to avoid that tyvm.

If i am childless by age 45 i will just adopt several puppies...

Being young/fit enough to raise your kids and see them become independent adults is a far more important limiting factor than sperm quality. But men having kids with women up to a decade younger than themselves is a sound choice. This article uses examples that may occur in less than 0.5% of couples having offspring. Thus the author of this article is a fucking idiot for bringing up this argument.

blueoak9 · 2017-07-06T17:32:54+00:00

Just the right note of pleading dressed up as defiance and hectoring. She's whistling past the graveyard. This is what desperation sounds like.

HiredMind · 2017-07-06T15:52:21+00:00

"Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me!"

majortom22 · 2017-07-07T01:14:52+00:00

This article was one deluge of delusion. There weren't any "whoppers" in it, more just after every other line I would say "no, that's not quite it....you're not getting it" and you compound 'not quite getting it' over course of the article and you're left with a heap of dung. What's even worse are all the women thanking her for the "honest" assessment.

Example. She tried to pass it off like men and women decline equally. They don't. Its intellectually dishonest. I don't doubt that a 21 year old man is producing superior seed to his future 41 year old self.

But a woman's fecundity starts to nosedive at a certain point. Not at all comparable to a man's gradual decline. And one that doesn't suddenly explode with menopause. After nosediving a few years she crashes and she's just done at some point. A man is still rockin' 30 years later.

Also the entitlement she displays. You're not entitled to men or male attention. No means no, don't you know?

cymrich · 2017-07-06T08:34:03+00:00

wow... this article only links to other guardian articles for sources as far as I. an tell. I think I went about 5 articles deep and couldn't find a single actual source for any of these claims cited! I'm on mobile though so it's possible I missed something.

kartu3 · 2017-07-06T11:28:44+00:00

Responses to this article give me hope.
At least in UK male brains are not fucked by known mysandric idiology.

Title	Hilarious Guardian wants men to stop going MGTOW and start having children with old women instead. How about Nope.
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Date	July 6, 2017 2:43 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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