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Woman demands man mutilates his penis before she will marry him. And he agrees.

Consilio_et_Animis

April 28, 2017
38 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://coconuts.co/jakarta/news/taiwanese-man-agrees-circumcision-order-marry-indonesian-woman/
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Title Woman demands man mutilates his penis before she will marry him. And he agrees.
Author

Consilio_et_Animis

Upvotes 38
Comments 35
Date April 28, 2017 6:24 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/684g5n/woman_demands_man_mutilates_his_penis_before_she/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/woman-demands-man-mutilates-his-penis-before-she.923839
https://theredarchive.com/post/923839
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Comments

[–]quackquackoopz 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Doormat. But by his own choice.

His partner is a cunt.

[–]Consilio_et_Animis[S] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's the TL;DR for sure. Thanks.

[–]quackquackoopz 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol

[–]jeff_the_nurse 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He should have said, "You first."

[–]Ragmer 25 points26 points27 points 9 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

As much as I'm against circumcision, this was a 34 year old man. He's an adult who can make informed decisions about his body, so I don't really think this is much to comment on.

[–]Consilio_et_Animis[S] 33 points34 points35 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't really think this is much to comment on.

Try reversing the genders, and then see what the "comments" around the web would be 😀

In the UK, if a man demanded that a women have part of her genitals cut-off as a condition of his agreement to marriage, it would be considered a criminal offence of "Coercive control or behaviour":

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/a_to_c/controlling_or_coercive_behaviour/

The definition is supported by the following explanatory text:

"This definition, which is not a legal definition, includes so called 'honour' based violence, female genital mutilation (FGM) and forced marriage, and is clear that victims are not confined to one gender or ethnic group."

The Government definition also outlines the following:

"Coercive behaviour is an act or a pattern of acts of assault, threats, humiliation and intimidation or other abuse that is used to harm, punish, or frighten their victim"

[–]Ragmer 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Indeed. Very hypocritical of the government and society in general. I'm still of the opinion that a grown adult that is given every opportunity to educate themselves should be responsible for their choices.

I think if a woman decided she wanted to get circumcised then that's her issue. I don't think anyone should demand their partner mutilate their genitals for marriage, but if they do, and their partner agrees, well. It's their choice. A very stupid choice in my opinion, but their choice none the less.

Spelling error edit

[–]bakedpotato486 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yup. A woman agreeing to genital modification under such circumstances would be viewed as a manipulated victim. This man? He's making an informed decision.

[–]Throwawayingaccount 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, I'd be fine with either situation.

I'm generally against aesthetic only body modifications who's purpose is to create an unnatural appearance. I think it's dumb. BUT: if an informed adult willingly proceeds with the procedure in a medically safe fashion, then I have no problem with it.

[–]hackableyou 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know what society would think, but I would be fine with reversing the genders as long as the facts remain the same in that the party needing to be circumcised is not be forced at the threat of violence or anything else other than lack of marriage to that person.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

There's informed and "informed", most are "informed" on circumcision.

[–]Ragmer 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

True, but he made the decision. Even if he made it poorly, it's on him. I'm all for education about circumcision. But in the end, the guy's gonna do what he wants.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think just the very idea of marrying someone who wants you to have cosmetic surgery is fucking stupid. But I agree. He made the decision, if it was on bad info that's his own problem. I'm not going to treat him like a victim anymore than I would if he bought a car he couldn't afford after a salesman duped him.

He can be smarter if he wants to be. He may or may not regret it later, but it is what it is. He had the choice. Even if he makes it for stupid reasons.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes I agree as well.

It's definitely much less worrying to have someone decide as an adult to undergo this than routine child genital mutilation.

Still hoping one day people will be actually educated about it though, doubt so many would accept it as adults then.

[–]Ragmer 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. Hopefully in the near future people will be much better educated on the topic.

[–]hackableyou 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is exactly what I was gonna say. You beat me to it, so I'll just upvote yours.

[–]Ragmer 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, thanks!

[–]Lethn 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As ridiculous as it is that he even agreed to this I'm afraid this is the case, this kind of shit is just wrong though, he had every option of telling her to fuck off.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. He made that decision about HIS body; nothing to really critique here regarding circumcision.

[–]Mencite 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You got there before me we can't help guys who're this stupid.

[–]matthew_lane 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did the man turn around and demand his wife get a boob job in response? Seems fair to me, she's getting him to alter his genitalia strictly for aesthetic reasons, he should be able to demand the same from her, right?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Everybody here says it's fine, but the thing is, he's going to do it to his kids. Stopping events like these would also help prevent it from being done to children.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

good point. I hope you are wrong but the wife is likely going to badger him into cutting his poor kids too...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean, his kids will be muslim, after all. It's essentially guaranteed.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

true but it still is horrible... Him I don't care he got a choice. Passing his "wisdom" down to his kids however hurts my soul

[–]boringcarpets 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right then, demand a labiaplasty before marriage, have her tidy up that ham wallet, get rid of those beef curtains. Oh, is that unacceptable? Righto...

[–]HyenaBloke 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like others have said, he consented so there's no issue. If he didn't want to do it he should have ended their relationship.

I do feel a measure of pity for him though, especially when she divorces him and leaves him with nothing, not even an intact penis.

[–]IHoardData 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This has nothing to do with you or me, That grown ass man can do whatever he wants. Only when its young boys or girls should people have something to say.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But this guy is likely going to do it to his kids.

[–]thrway_1000 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://archive.is/4zAUu

[–]Draggonzz 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have little issue with this. I mean it isn't something I would do if I were him, but at least he's grown up and can consent.

[+]SodaPalooza -8 points-7 points-6 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Poor guy had to live with a funny looking dick for 34 years and probably never understood why he couldn't get a blowjob. His future wife did him a favor.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

dude what the fuck is wrong with you? Funny looking is when your genitals have a scar

[+]SodaPalooza -7 points-6 points-5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe in Europe, this a 'Merica.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

so?

Genital integrity of children should be a core value of a 'Merican because of the concept of individual freedoms.

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