I talked about Men's Rights on /r/TwoXChromosomes. My experience.

gkhjkghjghjk · 2017-02-26T00:28:45+00:00

If you've ever been suicidal, or abused, or attacked, or raped, or whatever, as a man, you realize that there is no help for you. There is no support for you, there is no one there. At best you'll be told to throw a few hundred dollars a week at a therapist who will at best nod along but realistically will try to explain that you're not really in the situation you're in, or maybe they'll simply unconsciously hate you because that's what people tend to do. Even your family will get pissed when platitudes don't provide. You'll lose any family you had.

Being suicidal as a man makes you realize there is nothing there for you, no one there for you, there is no net, there is no escape route or fire escape. Being suicidal makes you realize you're all on your own, and even if you make it out, you will never forget how cold and alone you were. It makes it hard if not impossible to love when you're never shown love.

I wish I was a woman so I could experience human contact and love a few more times before I die. I'm not even mad, just freaking out. Be kind to the men in your lives, you have no idea what they might be going through. Or maybe they pushed some other man to his death metaphorically, that too.

Badgerz92 · 2017-02-26T04:09:24+00:00

I'm shadowbanned from TwoX. They didn't even just ban me, instead if I post there my post will be deleted by a bot without telling me. This happened because after somebody claimed 99% of rapists are men, I pointed out that these statistics assume that a woman forcing a man to have sex is not a rapist. They deleted my comment and shadowbanned me while letting the other comment stay

I mentioned how I was a 15 year old female MRA

They usually defend their moderation by saying that it's a women's sub, but obviously they censor women who disagree with them while allowing comments from males that agree with feminism

theprodigy_1 · 2017-02-26T06:07:04+00:00

Feminists can't argue with facts so they censor. I wonder why this sexist trash sub is also default.

EricAllonde · 2017-02-26T10:44:01+00:00

I've noticed that feminists have a lot in common with antivaxxers:

Every single forum they run is censored to block dissenting facts & opinions, and keep the forum as a safe space/echo chamber for adherents of the ideology - check
They cling to false beliefs despite being repeatedly shown hard evidence that those beliefs are false - check
They attribute all opposition to their ideology to a wacky, giant conspiracy theory that's supposedly pulling all the strings in society (Big Pharma for anti vaxxers, the patriarchy for feminists) - check
They're bitter and angry at the world, imagining themselves to be victims when there's no evidence that is true - check
Their bitterness produces anger at everyone who doesn't subscribe to their irrational beliefs, spills out as insults and wishing harm upon them - check

There are more than enough feminists in TwoXChromosomes to enforce the high level of censorship which is standard for feminism everywhere.

cleatusvandamme · 2017-02-26T06:48:30+00:00

It reminds me of an experience i had on /r/childfree

I asked the simple question if the sub was too feminist. This is what I wrote:

I feel like there is a certain group on here that is a tad too extreme when it comes to feminism.

Here is an example: https://np.reddit.com/r/childfree/comments/54ppz8/update_wife_doesnt_want_to_be_childfree_turns_out/

The poor guy that wrote that post had been betrayed by his wife of 6 years. He mentioned that he felt like he couldn't trust women. A few women start to drop how his comment was a tad sexist and a few others dropped in that it was misogynistic.

I feel like he isn't sexist or a misogynistic person and that he had just gone through a rather traumatic event. I feel like over time when the wound heals he'll be able to trust women again.

It was removed. So much for a civil discussion.

oshout · 2017-02-26T00:06:50+00:00

Thanks for trying, sharing, and for the support!

Draggonzz · 2017-02-26T16:11:22+00:00

Surprised they didn't throw 'internalized misogyny' at you. That's a typical card to play nowadays I hear.

SporkTornado · 2017-02-25T23:44:44+00:00

I'm betting you've also been banned from 2x.

-redditardation- · 2017-02-26T11:38:27+00:00

My experience with TwoX was actually rather good.

Initially I was met with ridicule however I was making a radfem fake post just to see what the response would be.

After actually engaging with people I met one person who was very becoming and was only continually 'harassed' (if you could call it that) by one person. The pleasant person said she felt strongly about women's rights (however was only a feminist in the egalitarian sense) but was almost immediately banned from /r/feminism because she phrased a comment incorrectly which could have been taken as questioning the narrative.

Another time I was linked there by some other sub-Reddit regarding the standard consent intersectionality stuff and I was rather pleasantly surprised when my comments regarding the fact that consent shouldn't be a male on thing were met with agreement.

I'm sure there are a bunch of Tumblrinas & easily triggered mods on there though but the fact that there are 'dissenting voices' in the community made me rather happy.

oshout · 2017-02-26T03:00:23+00:00

Never, EVER bring up the subject of MRAs in a place like /r/rTwoXChromosomes. They carry assumptions, speak nothing but assumptions, and have made up their mind based on those assumptions.

Best stick with this forum instead.

DougDante · 2017-02-26T13:25:04+00:00

welcome back. we are glad you are here and a part of our community.

2017-02-26T14:16:49+00:00

I think you are over-exaggerating;

You guys can find her old post here

In defense of 2XC:

Here is the link to the comment where the mod deleted your post: link. Your post was removed because it was irrelevant to the sub, and if you had read the rules, it would say the same. You can find the rules here. And let me quote the important part for you: "We ask that you keep this community awesome by submitting content that is relevant to our experiences as women, for women, or about women. The following posts are generally not considered relevant: ... Posts about issues affecting men too Questions asking for the perspectives of women" The mods was just doing their jobs.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't find no more than 2 people that dismissed you as (your word) "liar, whiny redpiller loser". I won't mention their name, but one person doubted you were an actual 15 years old girl and said "Wouldn't it be cute". The other person I think was a troll, as they posted it over and over again calling you a whiny red piller without offering any argument despite many other people had reasoned with them. Maybe I miscounted, but majority of people, as far as I can see, were very reasonable.
I think due to the nature of arguments in general, you might not find a lot of support your idea. But that i because it's a discussion. I mean, a Hillary and a Trump supporter should have a civil and engaging discussion without supporting each other candidate afterward. I mean if we were all agreeing with you it would be an echo chamber and there wouldn't need to be any debate, would it? :P
I know I just said not a lot of people supported your idea, but, on the bright side hey! Some of your idea was unanimously supported. For example, I don't think there was a single person in that thread disagreed that men circumcision isn't an issue. Now while people there don't think of it as a gender issue (it isn't IMO, it's have more to do with religion than anything), we all agree that it is a serious issue need to be address.

And last but not least, thank you for taking your time to start a discussion.

Blutarg · 2017-02-26T06:41:08+00:00

At least you knew what to expect. Most people still don't get the reality of it. So good job.

2017-02-26T23:42:10+00:00

Your post was taken down for a lack of relevance. What else would you expect?

Why post MRA in a female-centric sub that's as one-sided as this? That'd be like taking to TD to express the wonders of Socialism (TD'd ban for anything though).

Both sides, theirs and yours, are one-sided; you're both the gender war whether you want to know that or not. Pack in with the forced victim complexes and suss each others injustices out, rather than gunning for supremacy.

2017-02-27T03:37:26+00:00

Twoxchromosomes is a toxic sub and I'm still sad that it's a default

azazelcrowley · 2017-02-27T08:39:19+00:00

Thanks for your support.

2017-02-27T14:12:23+00:00

That subreddit is a horrible, evil, hate mongering cesspool of anti-male idiots. Don't ever expect support or logic for anyone with a penis there.

2017-02-27T21:47:45+00:00

women would kill themselves so quickly if they had to be men for just a day. No one cares about you or what you do. If you're not fighting in a war or providing for a female and her children, you're seen as worthless. There are men out there who die virgins. Think about that if you're a female reading this. There are men who go through their entire life without even being touched by a female, let alone felt loved. It makes me incredibly sad.

2017-02-26T06:31:04+00:00

edited by /u/spez

Title	I talked about Men's Rights on /r/TwoXChromosomes. My experience.
Author	Deckyleaf
Upvotes	85
Comments	35
Date	February 25, 2017 11:40 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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