More men are in prison than women therefore there must be systemic oppresion against men.

never_said_that · 2016-02-24T17:05:52+00:00

Statistics show that men are given longer sentences than female counterparts when guilty of the same crime.

Abstract:
This paper assesses gender disparities in federal criminal cases. It finds large gender gaps favoring women throughout the sentence length distribution (averaging over 60%), conditional on arrest offense, criminal history, and other pre-charge observables. Female arrestees are also significantly likelier to avoid charges and convictions entirely, and twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted. Prior studies have reported much smaller sentence gaps because they have ignored the role of charging, plea-bargaining, and sentencing fact-finding in producing sentences. Most studies control for endogenous severity measures that result from these earlier discretionary processes and use samples that have been winnowed by them. I avoid these problems by using a linked dataset tracing cases from arrest through sentencing. Using decomposition methods, I show that most sentence disparity arises from decisions at the earlier stages, and use the rich data to investigate causal theories for these gender gaps

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742.html

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2144002

SchalaZeal01 · 2016-02-24T20:09:25+00:00

"Men are more violent by nature" is something that feminists have no problem accepting as truth.

"Women prefer flexible work hours by nature" is misogyny to feminists.

mwobuddy · 2016-02-24T17:03:27+00:00

When a man goes to prison, he can't pay child support. Women and children are the primary victims of men going to prison.

When a man goes to prison, the people he victimized were women and children. Primary victims.

When a man goes to prison, the economy suffers, which affects women and children.

Ultramegasaurus · 2016-02-24T19:36:10+00:00

This analogy doesn't fly. The wage gap is clearly dependent on factors like profession choice and hours worked. Gender by itself is almost irrelevant. It's completely different when it comes to the sentencing gap. Factors which contribute to a prison sentence have been expclitly equalized between men and women, leaving only the gender as a variable:

If you're a criminal defendant, it may help—a lot—to be a woman. At least, that's what Prof. Sonja Starr's research on federal criminal cases suggests. Prof. Starr's recent paper, "Estimating Gender Disparities in Federal Criminal Cases," looks closely at a large dataset of federal cases, and reveals some significant findings. After controlling for the arrest offense, criminal history, and other prior characteristics, "men receive 63% longer sentences on average than women do," and "[w]omen are…twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted." This gender gap is about six times as large as the racial disparity that Prof. Starr found in another recent paper. https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinfo/features/Pages/starr_gender_disparities.aspx

Swiggy · 2016-02-24T17:22:20+00:00

And they don't even like that:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/11/06/we-should-stop-putting-women-in-jail-for-anything/

repete66219 · 2016-02-24T19:19:13+00:00

Let's simplify it even further:

More men are arrested for rape, so men must be experiencing sexist discrimination.

youhatetruth · 2016-02-24T19:21:47+00:00

It's only oppression when bad things happen to women, shitlorde! When bad things happen to men they brought it on themselves because they're stupid shitlords, SHITLORDE! /s

PotatoDonki · 2016-02-24T20:33:07+00:00

I've heard feminists say that one of the reasons we know that this a white supremacist society is because people of color are disproportionately imprisoned and are less likely to end up in college. Somehow, they also deny the fact that, by the very same logic, we live in a female-supremacist society.

ThePigmanAgain · 2016-02-25T01:09:15+00:00

Comparing the incarceration gap to the wage gap is not valid. The latter is bullshit, while the former is the doing of a justice system that has been proven, again and again, to be harsher towards males. Many studies have shown that a man who commits a crime is more likely to be charged, more likely to be convicted, more likely to get a long sentence than a woman who commits the same crime under the same circumstances.

toooooommmmmy · 2016-02-25T07:29:06+00:00

Discrimination is not oppression. Men are discriminated against in many ways but, as a class, not oppressed. Women, on the other hand, are, as a class, oppressed in certain cultures. Beating disobedient wives, for example, can be a culturally accepted norm (wives beating husbands in western cultures can sometimes seem like it was culturally accepted but it's not).

mochacola · 2016-02-25T11:48:09+00:00

More men are in prison cause toxic masculinity. Women are angels, why would they be in prison?

Wargame4life · 2016-02-24T18:12:01+00:00

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Title	More men are in prison than women therefore there must be systemic oppresion against men.
Author	Heardyouwouldnt
Upvotes	32
Comments	28
Date	February 24, 2016 4:48 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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