There is a big difference between 'domestic violence' and 'violence against women'

iainmf · 2015-11-25T08:47:38+00:00

I left a comment on their facebook page. There's a few others calling them out.

The latest NZ crime and safety survey found that 4% of men and 6% of women experienced 1 or more incidents of partner violence in the previous 12 months. It also found that 17% of men and 14.4% of women were victims of coercive and controlling behavior (psychological abuse) by their partner. International studies have shown that half partner violence is reciprocal, with both partners being violent. In fact reciprocal violence is a good predictor of injury. Please stop talking about as if only violence against women matters. If we are going to solve this problem we need to address all victims and all perpetrators. ----- The study: http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020

MasterZapple · 2015-11-25T09:36:31+00:00

I see this all of the time, even in the descriptions of events held by our ministry of social affairs. At one point it is "growing a violence-free generation" and then it's suddenly "we need to stop gender based violence" and "violence against women is a horrible thing".

They erase all male victims so bloody smoothly. And then they have the balls to say "oh, but we totally care about male victims!" But they don't seem to realize, that male victims are erased PRECISELY because

"domestic violence" == "gender based violence" == "violence against women"

double-happiness · 2015-11-25T11:05:52+00:00

It's pretty sexist if you think about it, because it's conflating 'women' with 'domestic'.

ParaBDL · 2015-11-25T11:29:57+00:00

White Ribbon day in Australia actually states it's fighting violence against women and not domestic violence.

JRPGFan · 2015-11-25T14:51:46+00:00

In everyday life we all see more women hitting men than the reverse, why don't the masses call bullshit on "Stop Violence Against Women" campaigns?

blueoak9 · 2015-11-25T17:43:32+00:00

If you want to reduce domestic violence, focus on the main form and the main victims - violence against children. Most of that is perpetrated by women. Thus the need to focus on women as victims.

dappermonto · 2015-11-25T17:41:19+00:00

xpost /r/facepalm

dontpet · 2015-11-25T17:33:43+00:00

I provide some care for male victims in my work and live in nz. I used to be sympathetic to this campaign but loathe it now that I've seen how men are treated by the systems here when they are the victim.

Alkomb · 2015-11-26T00:15:41+00:00

Don't be surprised. Feminists aren't smart.

CharlieQuinn1979 · 2015-11-26T06:34:47+00:00

I'm Australian and in my local community we have lots of DV. Only it's not called that. It's referred to, in every awareness campaign in the area is "(Council) stands against family violence."

It's never been gendered in my shire and the support information always says stuff like "for women, men and children who have suffered family violence".

unpicked-username · 2015-11-25T09:43:26+00:00

Heh, im in NZ, and its almost the end of the day. (Its now 11pm)

I havent seen a single white ribbon today, I didnt know labour was trying to make a bew event today either

the-tominator · 2015-11-25T21:57:36+00:00

While the poster is good in being fair, the post isn't and the likely intention behind it (to play into fear/anger at men to get women and male-feminist votes) is not either.

Title	There is a big difference between 'domestic violence' and 'violence against women'
Author	Stevonz123
Upvotes	245
Comments	34
Date	November 25, 2015 8:16 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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