They came to me in flocks when I was a 100kg addict, now that I quit that life and lost 30kgs, I can't score.

somebullshitrp · 2018-05-10T16:05:37+00:00

I think there's this kind of scale.

Women will fuck you when you are at the low end because it'll never be anything serious.

In the middle you're an option but not necessarily fuckable.

At the high end they'll throw themselves at you because if they don't you'll fuck 5 of the other 1000 waiting in line.

Caspero444 · 2018-05-10T17:54:07+00:00

Woman I know has only dated addicts for years and years. I would guess its a combination of factors. Everyone talks about how homosexuals and heroin addicts are irresistible because they care the least about women. There's also the titillation factor. They are unpredictable have constant drama, crises and the woman is always bailing them out of the next situation. This woman as far as I know has absolutely no interest in ever using heroin but dates nothing but junkies. When they are in prison she waits significant periods of time for their release.

anabolic92 · 2018-05-10T19:10:40+00:00

Lmao that feel when 90kg at 5,10" and around 12% bf and getting 0 attention.

Brb quitting gym, steroids and dieting and becoming a meth addict

[deleted] · 2018-05-10T18:54:30+00:00

You are in a bit of an uncommon route to TRP, most men find TRP after being beta and then they need to develop alpha traits. You and many other ex-scumbags are coming from the dark side of alpha and are working on some "beta" traits. I too come from what I call a rough-and-tumble background, currently living a life I and no one ever thought I would.

**mini-theory**

Men often pick short or long term mating strategies based on their life circumstances. Your prior life was a short, fast life with the shadow of the grave in every room. In this environment, you adopted a short-term mating strategy. In a pure sense this was alpha strategy. The dark side of alpha isn't mentioned much, but there are many more addict/drunk/thugs who utilize short term mating strategy than there ever will be bank managers who do. Could you imagine some of your old scummy friends trying to beta down and buy houses so some girl would fuck them? Even if they could afford a house, I got gold that says they wouldn't have spent shit on a girl. Bro, you don't get much more short-term mating strategy than with addicts and dealers.

http://www2.psych.ubc.ca/~schaller/Psyc591Readings/GangestadSimpson2000.pdf (Explaining that mating strategies in humans are a [phenotype and not a genotype] (https://www.diffen.com/difference/Genotype_vs_Phenotype). That means we mostly have the capacity for both strategies, but our environment will often dictate which one we use subconsciously. The great thing about TRP is that it breaks the subconscious piece and allows us to cultivate the strategy we want.)

**Applying the theory**

Here's what I think will help, realize that you have already experienced alpha. You know what it feels like, and you lived it with your attitudes and interaction style with women. Your major problem in life is that your short-term sexual strategy was paired with a short-term life. It sounds like in your quest for a new life, you jettisoned your old personality too. Don't do that. There was nothing wrong with your old personality, it was just bad decision making.

Embrace your old funny ass self! or whoever it was you used to be. You used to pull for a reason. Think about how you were before. Chances are you displayed some of the following behaviors that signal alpha: always the most relaxed person in the room? Laughed the loudest or quickest to laugh? Approaching while amusement in your eyes?

First step for you will be to embrace your old personality. Dust it off, there was nothing wrong with you in that aspect. Then, give some thought to how you used to exude outcome-independence, DNGAF, self-humor.

empatheticapathetic · 2018-05-10T15:11:49+00:00

A few pieces of advice:

1) If you haven't already, start going to the gym as much as you can. It will get you in better shape, boost confidence and get women to be more into you.

2) Learn some new skills - You cannot go wrong by being in a band or playing one of guitar or piano. You don't even have to be that good at them, the fact that you can play turns girls on. Best example for me is last night: I was on a date and I could FEEL her getting on with her day because quite frankly, I'm not the most emotionally engaging person. BUT, there was a piano at the bar, so I started playing some tunes. Her mood of the date took a COMPLETE 180. Learning any kind of skill (doesn't have to be an instrument) automatically raises your SMV.

3) Put yourself into as many non night life social environments as possible. This can be sports leagues, churches, networking events, ANYTHING. Surrounding yourself with good people and casting a wide social net is crucial to raising SMV

RedPilledRoaster · 2018-05-10T21:15:25+00:00

Probably because you cared about the heroin rush more than sex, so you gave off the illusion of abundance and didn’t have any outcome dependence.

Replace that heroin hunger with a true purpose and it will have the same effect.

JedYorks · 2018-05-10T18:14:08+00:00

I'm finna be a addict.

As-You-Were · 2018-05-10T20:10:32+00:00

I’m struggling with this one. Were the girls you were scoring with, scoring from you; i.e. were they getting high on your supply?

I mean, even Mark Renton scores at a nightclub in Trainspotting...

It could’ve played into the “bad boy” appeal, I dunno. You’ve stumped me.

Casd12 · 2018-05-11T03:44:09+00:00

Fuck hitting the gym, just hit the needles.

Bingomancometh · 2018-05-10T18:20:50+00:00

How long have you been clean? Transition to feeling zen for lack of a better term in your new way of life can take awhile. I couldn't have a meaningful conversation with people or socialize for a few years after I got clean and sober.

LLL3peat · 2018-05-10T20:45:13+00:00

It’s because you switched from getting high and not caring about things but experiences to caring about your decisions and not having fun.

You said it your self abstaining from night life. It kills your social life and puts you onto the right track for a great future but you second think things instead of being a yes man.

It’s your aura not that you lost 30kg.

cl3537 · 2018-05-10T23:55:26+00:00

"I abstain from night life"

Well if you cut down your approaches and aren't approaching gutter trash anymore than you aren't going to get laid as much you will have much lower opportunity.

room_303 · 2018-05-11T05:07:35+00:00

You previously DGAF.

hailhailhailandkill · 2018-05-12T14:36:05+00:00

You were a bad boy caring less about them. Try to maintain aloof behavior.

02537-41101 · 2018-05-10T19:50:23+00:00

You associated yourself with trash, because — honestly and truly speaking, your life was resembling of theirs. It's water finding it's level.

Now you're out of that place, you have to recalibrate your sexual selection. The reason you feel "far less interesting" is because your fundamental values are less conducive to drug use than previously. It just means you have to buck up and fill the void with things that're meaningful, and productive.

Best of luck.

Title	They came to me in flocks when I was a 100kg addict, now that I quit that life and lost 30kgs, I can't score.
Author	Yabadababoobs
Upvotes	29
Comments	41
Date	May 10, 2018 2:48 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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