"When it comes to health care, heterosexual males are second-tier citizens." HPV rule is more evidence that boys don’t matter

MenandBoysareGood · 2015-09-19T15:42:07+00:00

If you want to see how society "cares" about men a boys' health just check out these government links:

Womenshealth.gov Menshealth.gov Girlshealth.gov Boyshealth.gov

Hint: two of these links are not like the others.

victorymonk · 2015-09-19T19:45:17+00:00

Somehow people got hung up on the example of cervical cancer. But that's not the only example from her article.

Another case in point: In 2006 a protocol called RUCS – Routine Universal Comprehensive Screening, even though it was not “universal” by any means – became operative in 25 Ontario public health units, according to which any girl aged 12 or under, who presented at any health unit for any reason at all, was screened for past or ongoing sexual abuse.

Boys under 12 are not screened. I don't know what kind of "screening" they perform but this is not due to costs. This is due to eh uh

Their explanations were: “There is no evidence to support the screening of men at this time”; “We know it is helpful for women, [but] we don’t know if asking men about their past is helpful”; “[Screening boys] may do more harm than good.”

tiqr · 2015-09-19T14:36:37+00:00

A user on another thread on HPV posted this:

On herd immunity- here's a study that looked at the cost/benefit of vaccinating women vs vaccinating women and men.

It estimated the cost per QALY of a female-only vaccination programme at $14,583 against $442,039 for one that also vaccinated men:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3328990/

That's 30 times less effective to vaccinate men. A common cut off point per QALY is $50,000, so on the herd immunity argument that isn't anywhere near making financial sense.

If this is true then, as a man, I do not object to the HPV vaccine being given to girls only. If the government were spending a notional "30 times" more money on women in the name of equality, this sub would be furious - and rightfully so!

It's unequal treatment, yes. But this is a case where men and women are genuinely different. I would rather my tax dollars go to support something with a better return than vaccinating boys against HPV.

silly_vasily · 2015-09-19T16:04:38+00:00

I was always curious about this particular case. I remember when they introduced this measure in my province of Quebec, my girl friend at the time got the free shot. I went to the school nurse and asked if guys can get affected with HPV and she said yes. Then I wondered why I wasn't getting one for free. and in the past years I am strongly wondering if this could be a case of the Human rights commission of Quebec, because it is a direct violation of at least 2 charter rights. What do you thing the outcome of such a case at the commission would be?

goodfoobar · 2015-09-19T20:22:16+00:00

In this case it is an advantage that males have been ignored. The frequency of HPV is low and the risks are low making vaccine use questionable to begin with. That does not even take into account research questioning the effectiveness of the vaccine or stories of problems caused by the vaccine.

DR. DIANE HARPER: HPV PROGRESSION - ONE MORE GIRL EXCERPTS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSdCxgF0blc

Meanwhile support continues for the circumcision of infant boys on the extremely low chance they might get penile cancer or transmit a STD. Please continue to ignore research questioning the effectiveness of circumcision or stories of harms that circumcision does.

yayimadeit · 2015-09-19T21:18:06+00:00

When is this sub going to undestand that nobody gives a shit?

I tried with the MRA thing and was flat out told we dont matter at all. Lers look at it objectively 80% of us are not needed for anything other than to die in war or in the salt mines. This is a mathematical fact we all know this.

Women dont give a fuck, flat out. They have abortion now and the governments in there corner. They are needed for reproduction, we the lower 80% are not.

We can go our own way and it doesnt matter, we can yell and scream and have all the facts on our side and it doesnt matter. The top 20% of men dont care and nor do 90% of women.

Its a nice masturbation fantasy guy but thats all it is.

We dont matter at all and if you look at the economics of our world it is all the evidence you need.

So quit wasting your time and focus on getting yours because thats the way of the world it always has been. Darwin proved it.

ABC_Florida · 2015-09-19T17:54:56+00:00

Who gets to check if you are straight male?

prodiver · 2015-09-19T17:46:59+00:00

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loddfavne · 2015-09-19T16:27:05+00:00

As a man, I am for abolishing public healthcare. As a man I will get less benefit from public healthcare while being in the group that contributes most money with taxes.

Title	"When it comes to health care, heterosexual males are second-tier citizens." HPV rule is more evidence that boys don’t matter
Author	Imnotmrabut
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Date	September 19, 2015 1:49 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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