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CNN cloaks hate as honesty ... then very dishonestly suggests that young male mass shootings are statistically a huge risk. In fact, worst year (2008) had 26 fatalities ... bee stings killed 58.

AndrewLevin

August 2, 2015
146 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/25/opinions/cevallos-young-males-more-dangerous/?iid=ob_article_footer_expansion&iref=obinsite
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Title CNN cloaks hate as honesty ... then very dishonestly suggests that young male mass shootings are statistically a huge risk. In fact, worst year (2008) had 26 fatalities ... bee stings killed 58.
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AndrewLevin

Upvotes 146
Comments 21
Date August 2, 2015 8:13 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3fjhk6/cnn_cloaks_hate_as_honesty_then_very_dishonestly/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/cnn-cloaks-hate-as-honesty-then-very-dishonestly.974165
https://theredarchive.com/post/974165
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Comments

[–]Mitschu 18 points19 points20 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Let's be honest: Young males more dangerous"

Let's be really honest: Young black males are, on average, more dangerous.

/Slowclap.

Y'all remember what I said about taking people's stances and absolutely agreeing with them, but changing the targeted population, to show just how horrible they are?

This guy gets it.

[–]mochacola 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

We need to teach men it is wrong for misogynistic bees to kill. It's a cultural epidemic. Men need to know bees are not entitled to sting without consent. This toxic masculinity is getting out of control.

[–]Mitschu 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm also allergic to toxic beesculinity, don't I get any say in this as privileged cishet white shitlord?

[–]Roteract 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only female bees have stings

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because if we're looking to have a frank discussion instead of trying to tiptoe through a politically correct minefield, then let's not waste time talking about women of any age as a significant homicidal threat. You don't need a commissioned, funded study to simply count and compare the numbers of male criminals, inmates and prisons compared to their female counterparts.

Would CNN ever dare running an article using this same logic for blacks or muslims?

[–]SigmundFloyd76 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But I thought that we've already had 215 so far this year or something?

I guess it depends on the definition of mass shooting. Like the dude the other week at the movie theater who shot two woman; does he count?

[–]AndrewLevin[S] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Here are the facts:

In 2008, the worst hear on record, mass shootings caused 26 fatalities:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/21/mass-shootings-domestic-violence-nra/1937041/

On average, bee stings kill 58 per year, and killed 49 in 2008:

http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/you-re-more-likely-to-die-from-a-bee-sting-than-a-shark-attack-20140812

[–]creamer143 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In 2008, the worst year on record, mass shootings caused 26 fatalities

No, the graph you linked says in 2008 there were 26 mass shootings, not 26 fatalities. The FBI defines mass shootings as incidents where four or more people are killed. So, by the FBI definition, in 2008 at least 104 people were killed in mass shootings, thus more people did die from mass shootings than bee stings.

Though I do find it comical that CNN's "Men are more dangerous than women" statement links to a Youtube video of a Lewis CK skit, and the article does seem to push the idea of paranoia towards men, your title is still total click-bait

[–]xNOM 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

LOL, these are the same "journalists" who write shark attack stories.

[–]Neo_Techni 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Cows kill more.

[–]xNOM 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True dat.

[–]missmegz1492 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I down voted because you are interpreting the first link incorrectly. There were 26 shootings, not fatalities. The Sandy Hook shooting killed 26 people alone, there is no way 2008 was the "worst year on record"

[–]Sanguifer 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't You know that 30 dead people a year in a country of 300 000 000 with notoriously easy access to guns is an EPIDEMIC?

Wait, let me translate that into DVI speak: "A person dies in a mass shooting every other week! We should do something about it!!!!"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ban bees!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is going to be an unprecedented attempt at gun-grabbing for the remainder of the Obama presidency. The communists don't know when they will get another crack at the White House and they have to do as much damage as possible while they can.

[–]rg57 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd like to hold the human population to a higher standard than bees.

Is the goal too high?

[–]Drakaris 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Domestic dogs kill 20-30 ppl each year in US. Sooo, I guess... #KillAllChihuahuas?

[–]missmegz1492 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't see the comparison between anaphylactic shock due to a bee sting and a person choosing to pick up a weapon and murder large groups of people.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good, because that wasn't his point.

[–]MaestroLogical 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One you are more likely to encounter and the other, not so much. Since the news isn't pumping out 24/7 Bee-pocalypse coverage like they are lone wolf shooter stories, you'd think this statistic was reversed or something.

[–]SirT6 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That doesn't mean that the propensity of males to use violence isn't an important social issue.

The vast majority of violent crimes are committed by men, upon men. Understanding and resolving the demographic and sociological factors that drive this phenomenon are key mensrights issues.

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