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Julie Burchill talks of guilt after the death of her son Jack Landesman

JohnKimble111

July 19, 2015
29 upvotes
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3167237/Julie-Burchill-talks-guilt-grief-death-son-wrote-letter-describing-anguish-year-killed-himself.html
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Title Julie Burchill talks of guilt after the death of her son Jack Landesman
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JohnKimble111

Upvotes 29
Comments 32
Date July 19, 2015 6:25 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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Comments

[–]JohnKimble111[S] 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

A reminder of Burchill's previous thoughts on male suicide: http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/1999/oct/16/weekend7.weekend6

"Well, if the men who manage football think that 545 under-24 male suicides a year is a more frightening statistic than two women killed each week - and hundreds of thousands injured every year - by the men they live with, then they must be even stupider than they look; though it's hard to imagine, I know. But I can't help feeling they're on very dodgy ground, taking on the young male suicide thing. For a start, it's a phony panic, catering to that lowest of modern male desires - to be a victim"

"That young men succeed in suicide more often than girls isn't really the point. Indeed, the more callous among us would say that it was quite nice for young men finally to find something that they're better at than girls."

[–]_skipp_ 28 points29 points30 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

A hardcore man hating feminist who once celebrated male suicide proceeds to damsel on the grave of her dead son. Absolutely sickening.

'No one who hasn’t been the primary carer of someone with severe mental problems for an extended period, living with them, can begin to imagine what it’s like,' she wrote.

Indeed. It must have been extremely difficult for your son to take care of his mentally ill mother.

Burchill, who did not attend her son's funeral on Friday, said Jack had refused to keep taking his medication, and declined to take advantage of mental health services' 'talking options', instead smoking 'vast quantities' of cannabis.

Yes. Let's blame him now that he isn't here to defend himself.

'Finally I peeled his drowning fingers off of me and saved myself,

Of course you did.

This would have been a golden opportunity for Burchill to express remorse both over her treatment of her son and her appalling statements on male suicide. She could have used her bully pulpit to draw attention to the epidemic, and demanded we look for real solutions.

Instead she makes it all about herself. What a piece of shit.

[–]Wargame4life 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

lets hope someone takes a photo of him, put this quote on it

"That young men succeed in suicide more often than girls isn't really the point. Indeed, the more callous among us would say that it was quite nice for young men finally to find something that they're better at than girls."

and sends it to her, she is quite happy to laugh in the face of all the people who have lost loved ones and even celebrated it, lets see how she feels about it

[–]_skipp_ 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Her damselling in the wake of her son's suicide is reminiscent of Munchausen by proxy, which is fancy speak for "utter evil."

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Well, if the men who manage football think that 545 under-24 male suicides a year is a more frightening statistic than two women killed each week

545 vs... 104?

wow.

[–]JohnKimble111[S] 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that's 545 under 24 year olds vs 104 women of any age (and it's less than 104 these days.) The actual number of male suicides is over 4,500.

[–]jak_22 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Go away with your numbers thing.

She FEELS those women are much more important.

[–]garglemesh42 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She can take her shitty feelings and shove 'em where the sun don't shine.

She's a terrible person and I hope everyone she knows points it out to her twice a day and 8 times on Sunday.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

What a narcissistic monster.

A male scientist makes a joke about women in the lab and he is destroyed.

A female, feminist author talks about her mentally ill son as an anchor who she "peeled his drowning fingers off of me and saved myself". Nothing.

You weren't drowning bitch. You were ignoring your kid as he died.

It seems as if she prioritized herself so much that she didn't even go to her own son's funeral most likely to "protect" her own mental health. I'm guessing she was just too lazy and ambivalent.

This is insane. Imagine if anyone who identified as an MRA wrote a similar article.

Imagine how different things would have been if Burchill had a daughter who killed herself. I'm guessing she would have spent a bit more effort in her battle against the patriarchy. Her son unfortunately was born male so fuck em.

When people freak out if you say you're an anti-feminist, tell them about Julie Burchill. If they're a feminist already, don't bother, they won't listen.

edit: added a word I forgot to add

[–]DavidByron2 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If you were raised by Julie Burchill you'd want to kill yourself too.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably, geez what an awful selfish woman

[–]cuteman 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately, it seems like that probably played it's role in his suicide.

[–]pnw_diver 23 points24 points25 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

The creep didnt even have the decency to attend her own son's funeral. With a mother as hateful of men as Julie Burchill its amazing the kid made it to 29.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How cold do you have to be not to attend your own child's funeral.... Wow.

[–]caius_iulius_caesar 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She probably expected a frosty reception from the other attendees.

[–]baserace -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Funerals are for the living, not the dead. She may have good reasons for not attending.

[–]SQJPure 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, I get it. You're saying she's undead in addition to being a terrible, hateful person.

A good reason like she needed to make herself happier?

[–]garglemesh42 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, I get it. You're saying she's undead in addition to being a terrible, hateful person.

Wouldn't surprise me.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Burchill also described the strain she felt at caring for Jack, who had struggled with depression and drugs for the last decade of his life."

"To be the principal carer of a mentally ill person is to risk your own mental health, too. You can catch it."

"Burchill continued to support him, but did not see him in the year before his death in order to protect her own mental health."

"After a lifetime of acting as my boy’s life coach, ATM and personal maid, I had had enough,"

"Finally I peeled his drowning fingers off of me and saved myself..."

"Every time I've left a family, I've gone on to be much happier."

It's all about her, folks.

[–]Sasha_ 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's all about you Julie, isn't it?

[–]mochacola 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminists will say this: "This is what happens when patriarchy's indoctrination of toxic masculinity has disabled a man to express his emotions, demanding him man-up. The real victim here, is a mother who lost her son."

And this is why we should never, ever, engage such problems with feminists.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hopefully this humble pie she's been eating will extend to retracting her statements on male suicide being a "Phony panic, catering to that lowest of modern male desires -- to be a victim"

False hope, I'm sure.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Sunday Times said that Burchill's fee for the piece would be donated to two suicide charities - Calm, which works to prevent male suicide, and Sobs which works with bereaved families

I guess she's changed her mind about the importance of male suicide.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, think twice before you blow a load in a feminist.

[–]mikesteane 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Something she said in her previous article, linked elsewhere in the comments here, suggests that the normal courtesy which should be extended to people in such situations need not apply to her:

"The last time I suggested that suicides should be left to get on with it, I received a small number of letters from people whose sons had killed themselves. All of them demanded an apology. I'd advise them this time to save their stamps because, you see, I don't care."

[–]TheDude41 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

d

[–]cymrich 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

wow... his note to his father pretty much sums up how I feel every day...

[–]TheDude41 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

d

[–]mochacola 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

'Every time I've left a family, I've gone on to be much happier. I have two sons, one I don't see and one who lives with me, for my sins. That's Jack, who's 22. He's the apple of my eye, my Achilles heel.'

She considers her other son who is the apple of her eye to be a punishment for her sins, her Achilles heel to leave him to make herself happier. Wow. Just wow.

[–]wazzup987 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They did their damndest to paint her as above pond scum

[–]Globalization101 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This feminist is a disgusting piece of shit. Reading that article made me nauseous.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How hard up is her current husband? He has to go to bed every night knowing his wife slept with his sister, repeatedly, while his sister interned for her AND that his wife has left multiple families in the lurch.

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