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Jenny Kutner lies to Salon readers about mostly-nonexistent hate & boycott of a movie.

desmay

May 18, 2015
83 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.salon.com/2015/05/13/always_maintain_your_masculinity_misogynists_freak_out_over_charlize_therons_role_in_mad_max/
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Title Jenny Kutner lies to Salon readers about mostly-nonexistent hate & boycott of a movie.
Author

desmay

Upvotes 83
Comments 36
Date May 18, 2015 4:45 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/36dvsh/jenny_kutner_lies_to_salon_readers_about/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/jenny-kutner-lies-to-salon-readers-about-mostly.979968
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Comments

[–]blamb211 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, pretty much everybody I've heard talk about the movie is how awesome it is. Not about how much they hate it, and how they're boycotting it.

[–]Keiichi81 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

I neither boycotted it (although I had reservations about it considering its description as a "feminist action movie" by Theron) nor thought it was awesome. I actually found it to be incredibly boring and lacking in any real story. It was just 2 solid hours of car explosion pornography.

[–]_pluto_ 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

That's an interesting point.

Violence should be meaningful. So many Hollywood films portray violence as a cute joke. Eventually the overwhelming violence/explosions etc. become boring. Compare your average action flick to a film like the original "The Vanishing," or "Funny Games." Only a few deaths in both films; yet they are infinitely more affecting than the typical 1000 males-slaughtered gore fest.

[–]victorfiction 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Car explosion porn sounds good to me.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly my take on the movie. It makes a great bug light for those drawn to shiny things, not much more.

Edit : there were so many points where the violence could have escalated into the realm of brutality, yet it never got there. It was violence lite. The acting was fine. The story and directing weren't up to snuff.

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It could have been better.

Maybe in the sequel he sires babies everywhere and forms a new civilization?

[–]lifeiscooliguess 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You guys, we are really really mad apparantly

[–]bluescape 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is the madness perhaps maxed out?

[–]_pluto_ 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Wow. Hundreds of comments condemning "MRA's" for a nonexistent boycott.

[–]izomo 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ya there have been up to 10 articles over the last two days saying literally the same thing with absolute no proof. ROK are pissed because they aren't MRA's and AVFM is freaking out because it's just a slander mudslide.

[–]Keiichi81 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's almost like it's a marketing ploy. Everyone knows MRAs are gross and bad people. Say that MRAs don't want you - the good person you know you are - to see this movie. Watch as people "defy the MRAs" and support your "feminist action movie".

[–]Grubnar 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This just keeps getting more, and more silly.

Surely there must be a limit somewhere! Right?

[–]SupremeAuthority 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's an archive link. https://archive.is/YCES7

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I must have missed that declared boycott.

They tried to pretend shirtgate and "ban bossy" weren't real efforts by feminists.

But this, this definitely happened.

Just look at all the links they won't provide.

[–]krymz1n 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you can read more selected comments

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

haven't seen it yet, but sadly, all this background noise has ruined the movie for me.

[–]rg57 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So, how much of this is lazy reporting, and how much is a coordinated effort?

[–]Darkling5499 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

the only people i've heard talking about "boycotting" the movie are super-TRP types and feminist / SJW / extremely liberal websites.

[–]UsernameIWontRegret 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I don't think you know what TRP is if you think one would be mad about something like that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I don't think you know what TRP is

I sure don't

[–]UsernameIWontRegret 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

/r/TheRedPill

Read up, stay a while.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Ahhh, I'm familiar with the subreddit but not it's acronym. I don't particularly like that place it comes of as a little.....awful.

[–]UsernameIWontRegret 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

There's nothing wrong about calling women human.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

They sound like evolution based PUAs whether that's intentional or not is irrelevant that's entirely how they come off.

[–]UsernameIWontRegret 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

So understanding human nature is bad?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No but reducing human existence to "They're all animals that just want to fuck" is. The try and treat fucking women like some kind of science, it's evo psycho babble at best and unpleasant and inhumane at worst.

[–]UsernameIWontRegret 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Firstly, TRP is much more than just PUA. It's all about giving value to yourself through improving literally every aspect of your life.

Secondly, to say sexual desire does not drive humanity is absurd. One of my personal pet peeves is people who think that just because civilization has come into being, that that means that millions of years of evolution and mental conditioning has just disappeared.

Thirdly, if you believe pushing a person's buttons to get what you want is evil, then that's on you. TRP works because it gives women what they want. They want the bad boy, they want the independent guy. There is nothing evil about mutual benefit, TRP is just acknowledging that this science exists.

I can tell by the way you talk that you go the route that society has told you. You want to believe women are mysterious creatures. The thought that women are human, and have faults and desires bothers you. That's why I think you should spend time on TRP. TRP is just defined as "the radical theory that women are human beings". Most people just look at a few posts and jump to conclusions without actually reading and thinking. Please, take a look, stay a while, and open up your mind. There's a reason there's more than 110,000 people in the community.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

TRP has nothing to do with MRA. While there are people who overlap, TRP is not a political movement nor does it take any political stances.

[–]Darkling5499 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

... i never said TRP was a political movement. i'm aware that they don't consider themselves MRAs (and consider MRAs weak at that).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Gonna be that guy, what the hell is TRP?

[–]Darkling5499 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"The Red Pill". basically a group of people who are part "pick up artist" and part "all women are inferior to men and just want sex they just don't know it yet".

[–]jostler57 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore of Charlize Theron's character in Mad Max!

[–]EeeeeeevilMan 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, there was no boycott, but there should have been.

Not because of any (real or imagined) feminist content in the movie, but because they hired a lifelong man-hating feminist bigot, who wrote a play celebrating the drunken lesbian rape of a 13-year-old child, to be their feminist rape consultant.

In the future, when every action movie has a feminist consultant to avoid anything "problematic," remember to thank all your fellow MRAs here who cared more about not being called misogynistic by the media than doing what's right and assured you seeing this movie was no big deal.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I stand with this guy, there should be tremendous concern over how feminism is trying to embed itself and it's hatred even further into media.

[–]mayormaynotbeatrash 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm actually excited to see Fury Road as I like post-apocalyptic movies

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The movie lacks enough "oomph". That's why it won't be the big tent pole action flick.

It basically looks like a 1980's Mad Max film.

Shoot it lost to "Pitch Perfect 2" - a chick flick.

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